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"George Hammond" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:45:57 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: "George Hammond" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:38:51 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: [Hammond] We're discussing the case of NO PEOPLE, we're talking about the case when there are NO PEOPLE AT ALL. Then you tell me; if there are NO PEOPLE AT ALL; how would you confirm that anything "existed"? ****head! But NOT falling into a trap of arrogant ignorance - that mankind is needed for everything. [Hammond] Mankind IS EVERYTHING..... That's only YOUR mentally corrupt and insane delusion! if you lose part of your brain because you fail to reach your full height and weight, YOU LOSE AN EQUAL PERCENTAGE OF REALITY! In fact, if the whole human race disappears, Reality itself disappears along with us. Just the same toilet crap you've always bellowed .. nothing more! How can YOU claim that NOTHING exists - under those same circumstances - ****head? [Hammond] I can't even make sense out ot that statement. Of course not - it's based on your own insane, psychotic delusions. You're starting to get incoherent.... don't go hysterical on us just because you're getting your ass kicked. Certainly not by you ............ **** for brains. |
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George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:08:04 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote: George Hammond wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:54:57 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote: George Hammond wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:50:51 -0400, Mani Deli wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:14:36 GMT, George Hammond wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:28:30 GMT, George Hammond wrote: What Science DOESN'T KNOW is that the Anthropic Principle was actually discovered thousands of years ago by Religion. Religion never discovered anything. [Hammond] Horse's ass; who do you think discovered God? Good point in that hundreds of religions have discovered their gods although it looks like all of them existed before and after that "discovery". You should be more specific when you are specifying which god it is you believe in. Greek, Roman, Zoroastrian, Norse etc. There are so many to choose from. [Hammond] You haven't even read the website and don't know what you're talking about. The SPOG proves that there a 30-1st order factors = 30 demigods of the Hindu and ancient religions 13-2nd order factors = 13 Olympian gods of the Greco-Roman Pantheon 4-3rd order factors = 4 Gospel Saints of Christianity: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John 1-4th order factor = The God of Monotheism: God, Allah, Yahweh, Vishnu, etc. The SPOG explains and proves ALL RELIGIONS. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== [Doug] It is pretty clear that you are the one who does not know what he is talking about. You are ignoring most of the world's religions and picking a few that you think fit your misguided idea of what a proof is. You have left out millions of Hindu gods, millions of Mormon gods, all the Egyptian gods, the earth goddesses, Mithras (this is where your christian god was stolen from), the Norse gods and the American Indian gods. [Hammond] You're full of it. There is no such thing as any recognized religion which claims either in it's written canon or oral tradition that there are "millions of gods". That's ignorant atheistic propaganda without one shred of evidentiary support. The claim is illogical ignorance commonlyu spewed byamateur atheists in college dormitory bull sessions. So claiming there are many gods is done by atheists? That is silly even considering your normal foolishness. The SPOG of course identifies and scientifically explains the entire Egyptian pantheon... the 13 gods of the Egyption pantheon are the 13 cubically intercorrelated 2nd order Factors (eigenvectors) of Psychometry (psychometrics). They are (scientificfally) identical to the 13 Greco-Roman "Olympian gods". So you can prove the existence of any set of false gods but you ignore so must not extend your nonsense to the other gods such as mithras, the earth godesses and multiple other gods that man has created through history. Again... you don't know what you're talking about. I really see why people are laughing at you all the time. You are hilarious in your delusions. Sometime you should go look for truth and education. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:41:52 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: George Hammond wrote: 13-2nd order factors = 13 Olympian gods of the Greco-Roman Pantheon Which god crashed the Dodekatheon? [Hammond] Modern Science (HAMMOND, 2003) has discovered the origin of the ancient Greek DODEKATHEON (The 12 Olympian gods). Hammond discovered this when he noticed that there are 13 second order Factors (eigenvectors) in EVERY large Psychometric correlation matrix. These are typically 100x100 symmetric Pearson correlation matrices, and are diagonalized using large computers and the eigenvectors automatically extracted. Hammond discovered that sure enough, when you take the arccosine of the Pearson intercorrelation coefficients between the 13 eigenvectors, one finds that the exactly reproduce the mutual angles between the 13 COMMON symmetry axes of a CUBE...!! (Hammond, peer published 1994): ===================================== Hammond G.E (1994) The Cartesian Theory, in New Ideas In Psychology, Vol 12(2) 153-167 Pergamon Press. Online copy of peer/published paper is posted at: http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/cart.html ===================================== Hence, Hammond has proven that the legendary Greek DODEKATHEON is a CUBE...! (Incidentally, this scientific discovery leads directly to the world's first scientific proof of God, Hammond 2003) Incidentally, the Greek Dodekatheon descended from the Egyptian Dodekatheon and the Greek Dodekatheon was subsequently adopted by the Romans and the names changed. Same CUBIC STRUCTURE of Religion in all 3 ancient classical civilizations.... today this discovery by Hammond, is known as the discovery of the Structural Model of Personality, which has been the object of research ever since Hippocrates the Father of Medicine said there was such a thing 2,500 years ago. Hammond is of course, is still waiting for his Nobel Prize and currently languishing on Welfare arguing with kooks on Usenet about the scientific proof of God while physicists, psychologists and theologians continue to twiddle their thumbs. No they looked at the proof, had a good laugh and went back to doing useful science, not the babble you are producing. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:13:31 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote: [John Ratsmith] That's only YOUR mentally corrupt and insane delusion! Just the same toilet crap you've always bellowed .. nothing more! Of course not - it's based on your own insane, psychotic delusions. Certainly not by you ............ **** for brains. [Hammond] Screw jackass; you had your chance, you have nothing to say. I'm not replying you any further. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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George Hammond writes:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:06:21 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: Modern Science (HAMMOND, 2003) has discovered the origin of the ancient Greek DODEKATHEON (The 12 Olympian gods). You can't very well claim that the number 13 is somehow special to religions because the Greeks had 12 gods in their dodekatheon, now can you? The membership varied but the membership was always limited to 12. Look at the word itself - DODEKAtheon! The Egyptian pantheon had approximetely a dozen demigods. About 60, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pantheon. The Roman Pantheon had approximately a dozen demigods and Easily several dozen. the Greek Pantheon had approximately a dozen demigods, and Easily several dozen. Thousands when you count individuals described as part of a group. The Titans Oceanus and Tethys had 3,000 sons and 3,000 daughers alone (the Oceanids). I'll let you count them all up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_...the_Greek_gods the REASON for this is that there are PRECISELY 13 SYMMETRY AXES IN A CUBE. We won't discuss which orifice you pulled that statement from. SCIENTIFICALLY, Wrong. there are exactly 13 "demigods" in Religion. So far you haven't come up with *any* religion with exactly (or even about) 13 demigods. The ancient GREEKS were actually one god short. 7% accuracy was good enough in their day.... modern science requires greater accuracy, so 13 is the correct number of demigods. Do you really make this up as you go along? I hate to break the news to you, but the ancient Greeks were good in math. They were able to count to 12 and to 13, and they counted exactly 12 (not 13) gods in their Dodekatheon. You're right in that modern science requires greater accuracy, so you have to find a religion with exactly 13 demigods (not 12, and not 14) if you even wish to have a chance of a dry ice snowball's chance in hell. You better also find some religion with 30 demigods (not 29, not 31). Not that the count of gods is any form of science, but we'll let you pretend it is. |
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"George Hammond" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:13:31 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: [John Ratsmith] That's only YOUR mentally corrupt and insane delusion! Just the same toilet crap you've always bellowed .. nothing more! Of course not - it's based on your own insane, psychotic delusions. Certainly not by you ............ **** for brains. [Hammond] Screw jackass; you had your chance, you have nothing to say. I'm not replying you any further. Heard THAT crap lie before too!. Have you EVER said anything that wasn't eityher insane, or a lie - or both? |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:09:01 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote: [Andy F.] There's a human opinion based on sensory perception that the universe has been around for billions of years. [Hammond] There is overwhelming evidence based on scientific deduction that *IF* a person existed a billion years ago, then he would have indeed observed the Universe to exist. I throughly agree with that and anybody who doesn't is certifiably either crazy or incompetent. [Andy F.] This means the universe existed before humans did. [Hammond] WRONG, DEAD WRONG ANDY. 1) The "existence", of anything, depends entirely on the sensory perception of Man. There IS NO definition of the word "existence" that is independent of the action of a HUMAN observer. Proof: If all men died tomorrow at 9am, there would no longer be any way to ascertain at 9:01am if ANYTHING whatsoever "existed". The word "existence" has no meaning whatsoever without the existence of human beings. 2) But what your statement above says, is that circumstantial evidence indicates (indeed conclusively) that *IF* a human observer existed a billion years ago, then he "would have" observed that the Universe "existed". And I thoroughly agree with that statement. 3) However, in point of fact, no such human observer did exist a billion years ago, therefore, by paragraph 1 above, the Universe actually did *NOT* "exist" a billion years ago.... even though it "would have" if anybody was around to see it. [Andy F.] So it's not possible for humans to have created the universe. [Hammond] Wrong again. The above proof demonstrates conclusively that Man "caused" the Universe to come into "existence" since ONLY A HUMAN can confirm that anything "exists". In short, "existence" is a PROPERTY of the human mind. No people, no existence, of anything! ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:30:16 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote: No they looked at the proof, had a good laugh and went back to doing useful science, not the babble you are producing. [Hammond] Nobody's laughing except wimps like you who've gone cutsie on me. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:46:13 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote: George Hammond writes: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:06:21 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: [Hammond] Modern Science (HAMMOND, 2003) has discovered the origin of the ancient Greek DODEKATHEON (The 12 Olympian gods). [Hammond] The Egyptian pantheon had approximetely a dozen demigods. [Hammond] Na.... the 12 "canonical gods" (personality types) were graphically depicted as men with the heads of various animals: Horus (Falcon) Anubis (Jackal) Seth (Dog) Knum (ram) Khepri (Beetle) Sobek (Crockadile) Bastet (Cat) Nun (Frog) Wadjet (Cobra) Hapy (Baboon) Sekhmet (Lion) Taweret (Hippopotamus) About 60, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pantheon. [Hammond] There were many duplicate gods using the same animal but given a different name, plus various "small fry" gods. The Roman Pantheon had approximately a dozen demigods and Easily several dozen. [Hammond] Na....the 12 "canonical Roman gods" a Jupiter, Juno, Neptune, Ceres, Mars, Mercury, Vulcan, Venus, Minerva, Apollo, Diana and Vesta. the Greek Pantheon had approximately a dozen demigods, and Easily several dozen. [Hammond] Na....the 12 "canonical Greek gods" a Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Ares, Hermes, Hephaestus, Aphrodite, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Hestia Thousands when you count individuals described as part of a group. The Titans Oceanus and Tethys had 3,000 sons and 3,000 daughers alone (the Oceanids). I'll let you count them all up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_...the_Greek_gods [Hammond] We're not interested in "small fry" gods made up by Joe Blow some local artist. the REASON for this is that there are PRECISELY 13 SYMMETRY AXES IN A CUBE. The ancient GREEKS were actually one god short. 7% accuracy was good enough in their day.... modern science requires greater accuracy, so 13 is the correct number of demigods. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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