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On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT), Titus
wrote: On May 7, 8:09 pm, George Hammond wrote: The "God" of Man is simply a 100% fully grown man. [Titus, serendipitous twit] Is he a blond, brunette, red, or black hair? What race is he? Blue, green, or brown eyes? Height? Weight? Double-jointed or no? I'm assuming that he is ambidextrous and perfectly symmetrical. [Hammond] He's whaterver YOU are! The "god" of each individual is a perfect fully grown version of YOU. However, since there are 6 billion people all of the same species, and the perceptual effect is the same for all of us, the general phenomena is called "God" with a capitol "G". [Hammond] Na, I was born an atheist, and remained an atheist up until the time that I accidentally stumbled across the scientific proof of God when I was 55 years of age in 1997. I had no religious beliefs whatsoever. I was searching for the Structural Model of Personality when I ACCIDENTALLY discovered the SPOG, and suddenly realized that there WAS a "God" and what it was, and what religion was actually talking about behind all that metaphorical mumbo jumbo! [Titus, serendipitous twit] Wait. You were saying earlier how this discovery took 25 years of research. 25 years of one man's research _part time_ is not 25 years of research either. [Hammond] Wahddau mean "part time" asshole. People like me don't "work" for chrissakes, we fight for a living 24 hours a day... in my case doing full time independent research. Go punch a time clock moron. snip horse**** ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge
wrote: On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote: [Hammond] * *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no tomorrow! A fascist male argument George. If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin. [Hammond] That's what you think Apartment Pants. And don't call me a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again! ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 16:27:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On May 9, 1:04*pm, madge wrote: On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote: [Hammond] * *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no tomorrow! A fascist male argument George. If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin. If you die the universe doesn't exist anymore, TeeHee. [Hammond] Only if you're the last man. Yawn.... ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge wrote: On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote: [Hammond] * *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no tomorrow! A fascist male argument George. If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin. [Hammond] * *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again! Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or Greek. As well as a misogynist. |
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"Danwood" wrote in message . .. "George Hammond" wrote in message ... On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:14:02 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: "George Hammond" wrote in message news
On Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:57 GMT, George Hammondwrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:30 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. HotSalt" wrote: On May 5, 4:40 pm, "Varekem" wrote: (brevity snip) [Varekem] Sheesh Mark.So he isnt saying a real God exists, just that our lack of growth makes us think there is one and creates the false illusion? [Mark L. Fergerson] No. I am saying that what he says is _partly_ correct, that humans are capable only of observing that which we are capable of observing. That would be a simple tautology except for the BGD (Brain Growth Deficit)* issue; different humans are capable of observing different amounts of reality due to their state of development in terms of how accurately their DNA had the opportunity to be expressed as they grew to adulthood, limited by in-utero and later nutrition and so on. [Hammond] YES, this a very commanding synopsis of the SPOG except for the world "tautology" which has now been superseded in this context by the term "Anthropic Principle" in modern Physics, sort of the physics equivalent of WYSIWYG. Anyway, congratulations, you're probably the only one on Usenet who knows what the SPOG is about. Not an enviable position if my experience is any example. [Mark L. Fergerson] I am saying that he is partly _incorrect_ not in that the above is false (for it is obviously not) but in so far failing to analyze the meaning of "perception" to see that it breaks finally down to physical photon-driven interactions between fundamental particles. George built the SPOG on a correspondence between the BGD and Relativity* in that a fully developed human would "see" a "flat psychometric* universe" such that nothing would be hidden beyond its curvature analogous to how we cannot see into the past beyond a certain point no matter how good a telescope we use; the Universe simply is so big that some things are too far away for their light to ever get here. [Hammond] Again congratulations in identifying "psychometric curvature" (aka curvature of subjective spacetime) as the cause of the "invisible world" (aka Heaven). The similarity to an "event horizon" is heuristically good but more accurately it is connected with the "dog whistle effect" in that the word "curvature" is really physics jargon for a "time dilation". This time dilation simply LOWERS the visual spectrum cutoff frequency (aka PFF) to the point where 20% of normal reality becomes so blurred as to become TOTALLY INVISIBLE. Of PARTICULAR impact is the loss of facial/personality recognition in other people, so that their TRUE IDENTITY becomes invisible to the observer, and in fact, this is the central phenominology of God, Religion, and Psychology and the central factor in crime, conflict, wars and every human conflict known to Man. By the way, Hammond did not "build" the SPOG, I actually bit by bit "uncovered" the SPOG. It is a pure by the book discovery, I had no preconceived notions and no agenda when I commenced this research 25 years ago. [Mark L. Fergerson] Since the causes of what happen around us are observable, and the more you can observe, the more causes you can correlate with effects, the more you will attribute to "God" when you cannot perceive but a little of reality. A fully developed human brain would support a mind without such limitations; it would "know the mind of 'God'". [Hammond] The above paragraph is exactly correct and is in fact a totally scientifically correct explanation of "God". And obviously you're one of the few people in the world who is aware of it! I'm quite astounded at your mild mannered ability. [Mark L. Fergerson] What he has not so far accepted (I think) is that _all_ physically real entities are subject to similar general rules except that inorganic entities are not subject to a developmental BGD but rather to situational limitations in their range of perception. Get down to the level of electrons and it's obvious that a free electron can "perceive" much more than can one confined in an orbital; the latter is completely "blind" to photons that do not correspond to allowed transitions. Of course electrons can change their situation so there is no direct analog of "growth" for them, but they are extremely simple systems- something as complex as a human brain is time- direction-limited and cannot be "ungrown" from a given point then "regrown" with more nutrients etc. to improve their functionality. [Hammond] All LIVING THINGS (DNA based life) have a GROWTH DEFICIT! [John Smith, sham rage heckler] Unsupported (crap, insane, unscientific) assertion. Also - up to this point you have SELECTIVELY been "reading wht isn't there" - and coming to the deranged conclusion that this person's comments agree with the totality of your crap! [Hammond] This person has been a regular commenter on the SPOG for more than 8 years. He is well known to me and I am familiar with his views. Get off this thread Smith, take your heckling somewhere else. When a "critic" finds himself "in over his head", heckling is all he has left. George using another alias, again, to pretend he has supporters? 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On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT), madge
wrote: On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge wrote: On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote: [Hammond] * *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no tomorrow! A fascist male argument George. If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin. [Hammond] * *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again! [madge, Bingo queen] Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or Greek. As well as a misogynist. [Hammond] Na... you're just another anally fixated bitch. Psychiatrists call it "Penis Envy". You're jealous of notoriety. To get my attention you have to say something scientific... it gives me a rod on when women speak scientifically. And BTW, the rubber meets the road in the Anthropic Principle... physicists discovered it but are too dumb to realize they have accidentally discovered "God", 2000 years after the rest of us. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 07:18:53 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote: "Danwood" wrote in message ... "George Hammond" wrote in message ... On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:14:02 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: "George Hammond" wrote in message news
On Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:57 GMT, George Hammondwrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:30 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. HotSalt" wrote: On May 5, 4:40 pm, "Varekem" wrote: (brevity snip) [Varekem] Sheesh Mark.So he isnt saying a real God exists, just that our lack of growth makes us think there is one and creates the false illusion? [Mark L. Fergerson] No. I am saying that what he says is _partly_ correct, that humans are capable only of observing that which we are capable of observing. That would be a simple tautology except for the BGD (Brain Growth Deficit)* issue; different humans are capable of observing different amounts of reality due to their state of development in terms of how accurately their DNA had the opportunity to be expressed as they grew to adulthood, limited by in-utero and later nutrition and so on. [Hammond] YES, this a very commanding synopsis of the SPOG except for the world "tautology" which has now been superseded in this context by the term "Anthropic Principle" in modern Physics, sort of the physics equivalent of WYSIWYG. Anyway, congratulations, you're probably the only one on Usenet who knows what the SPOG is about. Not an enviable position if my experience is any example. [Mark L. Fergerson] I am saying that he is partly _incorrect_ not in that the above is false (for it is obviously not) but in so far failing to analyze the meaning of "perception" to see that it breaks finally down to physical photon-driven interactions between fundamental particles. George built the SPOG on a correspondence between the BGD and Relativity* in that a fully developed human would "see" a "flat psychometric* universe" such that nothing would be hidden beyond its curvature analogous to how we cannot see into the past beyond a certain point no matter how good a telescope we use; the Universe simply is so big that some things are too far away for their light to ever get here. [Hammond] Again congratulations in identifying "psychometric curvature" (aka curvature of subjective spacetime) as the cause of the "invisible world" (aka Heaven). The similarity to an "event horizon" is heuristically good but more accurately it is connected with the "dog whistle effect" in that the word "curvature" is really physics jargon for a "time dilation". This time dilation simply LOWERS the visual spectrum cutoff frequency (aka PFF) to the point where 20% of normal reality becomes so blurred as to become TOTALLY INVISIBLE. Of PARTICULAR impact is the loss of facial/personality recognition in other people, so that their TRUE IDENTITY becomes invisible to the observer, and in fact, this is the central phenominology of God, Religion, and Psychology and the central factor in crime, conflict, wars and every human conflict known to Man. By the way, Hammond did not "build" the SPOG, I actually bit by bit "uncovered" the SPOG. It is a pure by the book discovery, I had no preconceived notions and no agenda when I commenced this research 25 years ago. [Mark L. Fergerson] Since the causes of what happen around us are observable, and the more you can observe, the more causes you can correlate with effects, the more you will attribute to "God" when you cannot perceive but a little of reality. A fully developed human brain would support a mind without such limitations; it would "know the mind of 'God'". [Hammond] The above paragraph is exactly correct and is in fact a totally scientifically correct explanation of "God". And obviously you're one of the few people in the world who is aware of it! I'm quite astounded at your mild mannered ability. [Mark L. Fergerson] What he has not so far accepted (I think) is that _all_ physically real entities are subject to similar general rules except that inorganic entities are not subject to a developmental BGD but rather to situational limitations in their range of perception. Get down to the level of electrons and it's obvious that a free electron can "perceive" much more than can one confined in an orbital; the latter is completely "blind" to photons that do not correspond to allowed transitions. Of course electrons can change their situation so there is no direct analog of "growth" for them, but they are extremely simple systems- something as complex as a human brain is time- direction-limited and cannot be "ungrown" from a given point then "regrown" with more nutrients etc. to improve their functionality. [Hammond] All LIVING THINGS (DNA based life) have a GROWTH DEFICIT! [John Smith, sham rage heckler] Unsupported (crap, insane, unscientific) assertion. Also - up to this point you have SELECTIVELY been "reading wht isn't there" - and coming to the deranged conclusion that this person's comments agree with the totality of your crap! [Hammond] This person has been a regular commenter on the SPOG for more than 8 years. He is well known to me and I am familiar with his views. Get off this thread Smith, take your heckling somewhere else. [Danwood] When a "critic" finds himself "in over his head", heckling is all he has left. [John Smith, sham rage heckler] George using another alias, again, to pretend he has supporters? You cannot get "in over your head" with junk that came from a crapper! [Hammond] Usenet is the vocal minority, not the silent majority. Bear in mind that the silent majority naturally is disposed to support something like the SPOG because it scientifically confirms what is already the majority opinion. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On May 10, 11:25*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT), madge wrote: On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge wrote: On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote: [Hammond] * *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no tomorrow! A fascist male argument George. If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin. [Hammond] * *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again! [madge, Bingo queen] Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or Greek. As well as a misogynist. [Hammond] * *Na... you're just another anally fixated bitch. Psychiatrists call it "Penis Envy". *You're jealous of notoriety. Infamous notoriety is hard to come by george. Penile Envy is not within the norm for wimmin. However I think in your case I'll make and exception and lets call it what it is weiner envy and I have a bigger weiner than your weiner . You do realise that your lengthy diatribes are causing premature entropic deteriation. You're using up all the universal bitspace all by yourself. |
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:36:56 -0700 (PDT), madge
wrote: On May 10, 11:25*am, George Hammond wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT), madge wrote: On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge wrote: On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote: [Hammond] * *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no tomorrow! A fascist male argument George. If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin. [Hammond] * *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again! [madge, Bingo queen] Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or Greek. As well as a misogynist. [Hammond] * *Na... you're just another anally fixated bitch. Psychiatrists call it "Penis Envy". *You're jealous of notoriety. [madge, Bingo queen] Infamous notoriety is hard to come by george. Penile Envy is not within the norm for wimmin. However I think in your case I'll make and exception and lets call it what it is weiner envy and I have a bigger weiner than your weiner . You do realise that your lengthy diatribes are causing premature entropic deteriation. You're using up all the universal bitspace all by yourself. [Hammond] Wimmin is minnow spelled backwards. Whimin is the correct spelling. Go back to playing Bingo, I'm busy. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On May 10, 9:08*am, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond] * *Wimmin is minnow spelled backwards. *Whimin is the correct spelling. *Go back to playing Bingo, I'm busy playing with myself & what is Dog spelled backwards, ya friggin CRACKPOT? |
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