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  #61  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
Paul Mays
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Default What is Light?




"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 12:50 pm, "Paul Mays" wrote:
--"Sanny" wrote in message


...



When in School I learnt 2 things about Light


1. Light is a Wave


I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.


2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.


Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`


Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.


Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u


So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.


Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave


Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.


After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.


Bye
Sanny


Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php


Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable

Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and

perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer, any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.

But I could be Wrong....

Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"


Why wrong, because if we can't wrap ourselves around your
interpretation is why it doesn't hardly matter.

Could you try out a few other wordings, so that we don't have to be
Einstein or on drugs in order to interpret your theory?

All inclusive, there's fewer than one atom/m3, yet there's likely more
than 1e100 photons/m3.

Because there's a fixed number of atoms and continuous supply of
photons, it seems the photon is in charge of most everything outside
of them black holes.
. - Brad Guth


Oh No.. now you gone and done it.. You Asked... Generally speaking I get
flamed alot and hardly ever get asked.

I have attempted to put the whole of the concept into a PDF so folks can
read at leisure but to put it in simple terms I have to start from the basis
of the idea of an Intrinsic Bias. That Bias is unavoidable due to us being
connected by the Quantum State we are in. Some try to call it Aether which
Maxwell, Einstein and others have addressed for a very long time. All tend
to conceive it as a medium that matter passes through. That's the Intrinsic
Bias. We as observers tend to ignore the insipid nature of it.

The only way any information is exchanged is via wave forms between the
observer and that being observed. With Light we have nothing more than a EM
wave form at a freq we can observe. I contend it propagates through the
Quantum State and when we attempt to observe it we alter the quantum state
by also producing wave forms and when we observe the information we gather
is Intrinsically Biased causing us to perceive what we observe differently
with different method of observation.

Take the idea of a slit experiment detecting photos and waves from the same
source. I use the idea I try to explain in my postulate to show that if I
attempt to view the "light" at a 0 time constant then I detect a signature
energy level that I perceive as a real physical ball of stuff. My gear I
built is made of stuff that I select to make the gear and is connected to
the object I want to use it to observe and is connected to me the observer.
So the act of observing effects that which is being observed.

If I observer using a device designed to observe over a period of time I get
a obvious EM wave pattern. Again the Wave Pattern I observe is not that
which I observe only the Interpretation of the information I have gathered.

So in my view a "Particle" that shows the aspect of duality is a wave and
only a wave and is perceived as a physical little ball of stuff only due to
the method and Intrinsic Bias of the observer.

Using my view a "Photon", "Electron" and many other "Particles" are only
waves and may also so be observed in such a way as be modeled as having Mass
yet no Rest Mass. Because a photon is only a wave once it propagates
through the Quantum State it does not rely on the source or target for its
velocity of c.

This is why c seems constant to an intrinsically biased observer while I
contend it is variable.


--
http://fast.filespace.org/PaulRMays/Postulate.pdf

--
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"



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  #62  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
Paul Mays
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Default What is Light?





"Pmb" wrote in message
. ..

"BradGuth" wrote in message
...
On Apr 18, 12:50 pm, "Paul Mays" wrote:
--"Sanny" wrote in message


...



When in School I learnt 2 things about Light

1. Light is a Wave

I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.

2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.

Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`

Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.

Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u

So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.

Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave

Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.

After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.

Bye
Sanny

Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php

Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable

Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and

perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer, any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.

But I could be Wrong....

Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"


Why wrong, because if we can't wrap ourselves around your
interpretation is why it doesn't hardly matter.

Could you try out a few other wordings, so that we don't have to be
Einstein or on drugs in order to interpret your theory?

All inclusive, there's fewer than one atom/m3, yet there's likely more
than 1e100 photons/m3.

Because there's a fixed number of atoms and continuous supply of
photons, it seems the photon is in charge of most everything outside
of them black holes.
. - Brad Guth


To "believe" is a large part of physics. In fact its a large part of any
science. Science will never have access to truth and therefore truth is

but
an unobtainable goal.

Pete



And there's the rub. Then science has become religion where its tantamount
to heresy to speak ill of the "B'liefs of others. The hordes rise at the
individual that "Believes" the Earth orbits the Sun. Burned at the stake as
Bruno was when he Did Not Believe as the arbiters of religion said he
should.

If you B'Lieve you are in the pews singing a heavenly lament. If you Know,
you are outside asking why do they sit so silent. If you Do Not Know you
stand outside the doors begging to be let in and if you Think You Know you
sit on the steps and split the difference.

--
http://fast.filespace.org/PaulRMays/Postulate.pdf

--
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"





  #63  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
BradGuth
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On Apr 20, 9:12 am, "Paul Mays" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

... On Apr 18, 12:50 pm, "Paul Mays" wrote:
--"Sanny" wrote in message


...





When in School I learnt 2 things about Light


1. Light is a Wave


I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.


2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.


Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`


Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.


Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u


So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.


Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave


Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.


After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.


Bye
Sanny


Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php


Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable

Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and

perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer, any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.


But I could be Wrong....


Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"


Why wrong, because if we can't wrap ourselves around your
interpretation is why it doesn't hardly matter.


Could you try out a few other wordings, so that we don't have to be
Einstein or on drugs in order to interpret your theory?


All inclusive, there's fewer than one atom/m3, yet there's likely more
than 1e100 photons/m3.


Because there's a fixed number of atoms and continuous supply of
photons, it seems the photon is in charge of most everything outside
of them black holes.
. - Brad Guth


Oh No.. now you gone and done it.. You Asked... Generally speaking I get
flamed alot and hardly ever get asked.

I have attempted to put the whole of the concept into a PDF so folks can
read at leisure but to put it in simple terms I have to start from the basis
of the idea of an Intrinsic Bias. That Bias is unavoidable due to us being
connected by the Quantum State we are in. Some try to call it Aether which
Maxwell, Einstein and others have addressed for a very long time. All tend
to conceive it as a medium that matter passes through. That's the Intrinsic
Bias. We as observers tend to ignore the insipid nature of it.

The only way any information is exchanged is via wave forms between the
observer and that being observed. With Light we have nothing more than a EM
wave form at a freq we can observe. I contend it propagates through the
Quantum State and when we attempt to observe it we alter the quantum state
by also producing wave forms and when we observe the information we gather
is Intrinsically Biased causing us to perceive what we observe differently
with different method of observation.

Take the idea of a slit experiment detecting photos and waves from the same
source. I use the idea I try to explain in my postulate to show that if I
attempt to view the "light" at a 0 time constant then I detect a signature
energy level that I perceive as a real physical ball of stuff. My gear I
built is made of stuff that I select to make the gear and is connected to
the object I want to use it to observe and is connected to me the observer.
So the act of observing effects that which is being observed.

If I observer using a device designed to observe over a period of time I get
a obvious EM wave pattern. Again the Wave Pattern I observe is not that
which I observe only the Interpretation of the information I have gathered.

So in my view a "Particle" that shows the aspect of duality is a wave and
only a wave and is perceived as a physical little ball of stuff only due to
the method and Intrinsic Bias of the observer.

Using my view a "Photon", "Electron" and many other "Particles" are only
waves and may also so be observed in such a way as be modeled as having Mass
yet no Rest Mass. Because a photon is only a wave once it propagates
through the Quantum State it does not rely on the source or target for its
velocity of c.

This is why c seems constant to an intrinsically biased observer while I
contend it is variable.

--http://fast.filespace.org/PaulRMays/Postulate.pdf

--
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"


I accept your variable 'c', because it seems perfectly logical outside
of our physiological and/or technological limited perceptions of 'c'.
.. - Brad Guth
  #64  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
BradGuth
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Default What is Light?

On Apr 20, 9:22 am, "Paul Mays" wrote:

And there's the rub. Then science has become religion where its tantamount
to heresy to speak ill of the "B'liefs of others. The hordes rise at the
individual that "Believes" the Earth orbits the Sun. Burned at the stake as
Bruno was when he Did Not Believe as the arbiters of religion said he
should.

If you B'Lieve you are in the pews singing a heavenly lament. If you Know,
you are outside asking why do they sit so silent. If you Do Not Know you
stand outside the doors begging to be let in and if you Think You Know you
sit on the steps and split the difference.

--http://fast.filespace.org/PaulRMays/Postulate.pdf

--
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"


I've been splitting differences all my life, perhaps because I'm not
one of those all-or-nothing kind of all-knowing bigots.

BTW, it seems we have a bad case of Brown-Nosed damage-control (the
Usenet status quo or bust) that is running itself a muck.

Would you folks just have another good look-see at all the ongoing
brown-nosed clownism, not only as happening within this group, but
saturated and for the most part unopposed throughout Usenet.

Are those Third Reich Semites actually getting that ****ed off and
desperate?

Is there some other faith-based group(s) of pretend-atheists or cults
in charge?
. - Brad Guth

-
DARPA (our very own Third Reich collective of Semitic wizards) "This
agency brought forth the Saturn 5 rocket, surveillance satellites, the
Internet, stealth technology, guided munitions, unmanned aerial
vehicles, night vision and the body armor that's in use today,"

““So what's hot at DARPA right now? Bugs. The creepy, crawly flying
kind. The Agency's Microsystems Technology Office is hard at work on
HI-MEMS (Hybrid Insect Micro-Electro-Mechanical System), raising real
insects filled with electronic circuitry, which could be guided using
GPS technology to specific targets via electrical impulses sent to
their muscles. These half-bug, half-chip creations - DARPA calls them
"insect cyborgs" - would be ideal for surveillance missions, the
agency says in a brief description on its website.””

Are we fellow spooks and moles of the Third Reich having a good enough
time yet?
. - BG
  #65  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
Pmb[_4_]
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"Paul Mays" wrote in message
...




"Pmb" wrote in message
. ..

"BradGuth" wrote in message
...
On Apr 18, 12:50 pm, "Paul Mays" wrote:
--"Sanny" wrote in message


...



When in School I learnt 2 things about Light

1. Light is a Wave

I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.

2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.

Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`

Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field?
How
can we say they are perpendicular.

Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u

So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.

Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave

Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.

After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know
whats
the correct description of light.

Bye
Sanny

Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php

Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable

Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and

perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer,
any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.

But I could be Wrong....

Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"

Why wrong, because if we can't wrap ourselves around your
interpretation is why it doesn't hardly matter.

Could you try out a few other wordings, so that we don't have to be
Einstein or on drugs in order to interpret your theory?

All inclusive, there's fewer than one atom/m3, yet there's likely more
than 1e100 photons/m3.

Because there's a fixed number of atoms and continuous supply of
photons, it seems the photon is in charge of most everything outside
of them black holes.
. - Brad Guth


To "believe" is a large part of physics. In fact its a large part of any
science. Science will never have access to truth and therefore truth is

but
an unobtainable goal.

Pete



And there's the rub. Then science has become religion where its
tantamount
to heresy to speak ill of the "B'liefs of others.


Not at all. Science has *always* been about belief. I.e. If I drop a rock I
*believe* it will fall. I *believe* the sun will rise tomorrow. I *believe*
that energy is conserved etc. None of these can be proven. But we believe
them because we have very good reason to believe them. It is what we keep
observing for years on end without change. On the other hand, when this kind
of thing is applied towards God then that belief system is called religion.
Science is about what we observer in nature. Therefore, by its very
definition, science is not a religion - Period, end of story.

Pete


  #66  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
BradGuth
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On Apr 20, 11:47 am, "Pmb" wrote:
"Paul Mays" wrote in message

...





"Pmb" wrote in message
...


"BradGuth" wrote in message
...
On Apr 18, 12:50 pm, "Paul Mays" wrote:
--"Sanny" wrote in message


...


When in School I learnt 2 things about Light


1. Light is a Wave


I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.


2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.


Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`


Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field?
How
can we say they are perpendicular.


Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u


So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.


Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave


Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.


After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know
whats
the correct description of light.


Bye
Sanny


Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php


Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable

Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and

perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer,
any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.


But I could be Wrong....


Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"


Why wrong, because if we can't wrap ourselves around your
interpretation is why it doesn't hardly matter.


Could you try out a few other wordings, so that we don't have to be
Einstein or on drugs in order to interpret your theory?


All inclusive, there's fewer than one atom/m3, yet there's likely more
than 1e100 photons/m3.


Because there's a fixed number of atoms and continuous supply of
photons, it seems the photon is in charge of most everything outside
of them black holes.
. - Brad Guth


To "believe" is a large part of physics. In fact its a large part of any
science. Science will never have access to truth and therefore truth is

but
an unobtainable goal.


Pete


And there's the rub. Then science has become religion where its
tantamount
to heresy to speak ill of the "B'liefs of others.


Not at all. Science has *always* been about belief. I.e. If I drop a rock I
*believe* it will fall. I *believe* the sun will rise tomorrow. I *believe*
that energy is conserved etc. None of these can be proven. But we believe
them because we have very good reason to believe them. It is what we keep
observing for years on end without change. On the other hand, when this kind
of thing is applied towards God then that belief system is called religion.
Science is about what we observer in nature. Therefore, by its very
definition, science is not a religion - Period, end of story.

Pete


But religion still controls the private parts of whatever science gets
into their mainstream, as well as controls and/or orchestrates others
on behalf of dominating upon the amount of evidence exclusion
necessary in order to sustain their status quo, or else.
.. - Brad Guth
  #67  
Old April 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
Paul Mays
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Default What is Light?



"Pmb" wrote in message
. ..

"Paul Mays" wrote in message
...




"Pmb" wrote in message
. ..

"BradGuth" wrote in message

...
On Apr 18, 12:50 pm, "Paul Mays" wrote:
--"Sanny" wrote in message



...



When in School I learnt 2 things about Light

1. Light is a Wave

I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a

wave.

2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.

Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`

Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field?
How
can we say they are perpendicular.

Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u

So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.

Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave

Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.

After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know
whats
the correct description of light.

Bye
Sanny

Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php

Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable

Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and

perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer,
any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.

But I could be Wrong....

Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"

Why wrong, because if we can't wrap ourselves around your
interpretation is why it doesn't hardly matter.

Could you try out a few other wordings, so that we don't have to be
Einstein or on drugs in order to interpret your theory?

All inclusive, there's fewer than one atom/m3, yet there's likely

more
than 1e100 photons/m3.

Because there's a fixed number of atoms and continuous supply of
photons, it seems the photon is in charge of most everything outside
of them black holes.
. - Brad Guth

To "believe" is a large part of physics. In fact its a large part of

any
science. Science will never have access to truth and therefore truth is

but
an unobtainable goal.

Pete



And there's the rub. Then science has become religion where its
tantamount
to heresy to speak ill of the "B'liefs of others.


Not at all. Science has *always* been about belief. I.e. If I drop a rock

I
*believe* it will fall. I *believe* the sun will rise tomorrow. I

*believe*
that energy is conserved etc. None of these can be proven. But we believe
them because we have very good reason to believe them. It is what we keep
observing for years on end without change. On the other hand, when this

kind
of thing is applied towards God then that belief system is called

religion.
Science is about what we observer in nature. Therefore, by its very
definition, science is not a religion - Period, end of story.

Pete



Then I misunderstand Science for If I drop a rock "I Know" it will Fall
Here on Planet Earth not given external variables, I "Think I Know" the Sun
will rise tommorrow if a catostrophic event does not occure before then that
affects the prediction. I Know energy is concerved by the massive evidence
that can be repeatally evaluated by and outside observer but I "Do Not Know"
that which I cannot validate with the scientific method.

Science is Not a Religion. But B'lief of any portion of it without question
Is.


--
http://fast.filespace.org/PaulRMays/Postulate.pdf

--
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"



  #68  
Old April 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
NoEinstein
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On Apr 18, 10:32*pm, wrote:
On Apr 18, 10:19*am, Sanny wrote:





When in School I learnt 2 things about Light


1. Light is a Wave


I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.


2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.


Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`


Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.


Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u


So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.


Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave


Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.


After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.


Bye
Sanny


Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php


Light is a force. IT is EM. It is electric and magnetic. Call it a
Dual Force wave of energy.

Mitch Reamsch - Falling light changes colour- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Dear Mitch: Your comments are a smorgasborg of "might be(s)". Quit
reading out-of-date texts and start thinking for yourself! There is
no such thing as "different color" light! There is only a different
PERCEPTION of color depending on the wavelength of the arriving
photons. Those photons are IDENTICAL regardless of the
"wavelength" (a misnomer, because light ISN'T waves!). — NoEinstein —
  #69  
Old April 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity
NoEinstein
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On Apr 19, 12:09*am, Huang wrote:
Light can be a wave or a particle, but not both at the same time.

This is because physical length can be either continuous or discrete,
but not both at the same time.

And this is because a random length may be regarded as being
indeterminately continuous or discrete.

And to understand this you must understand existential indeterminacy.
That points may be regarded as being existentially indeterminate, but
there is another equally valid approach which does NOT consider points
to be existentially indeterminate, and that BOTH cases are equally
valid.

You should now know exactly what a photon is, what gravity is, dark
matter, and everything else.


Dear Huang: You just quote Einstein. But I've disproved that man up,
down, and sideways! Light is PHOTONS only, NOT a wave... EVER!
Please go to my profile and read my recent posts. Then, you should
agree to forget his moronic ideas. — NoEinstein —
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Default What is Light?

On Apr 19, 12:18*am, "
wrote:
On Apr 18, 2:19*pm, Sanny wrote:

When in School I learnt 2 things about Light


1. Light is a Wave


* * Well, that's mostly because schools are always experimenting
wanks.
* * Since there's a big difference between saying light is a wave,
* * and light ravels like a wave.



I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.


* * *If lens could prove anything, we have given the astronomy idiots
* * *even bigger telescopes than they have now, rather than
microprocessors
* * *and lasers.

2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.


* * *Well, they always do that. Since light is an E-M wave,
* * *just like light's a flame thrower.. Idiots in Washingtoon
* * *will buy anything as the saying goes.

Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`


* * *Well, the science cranks *just do that to sell polorizers.
* * *Since the only thing travelling is wanks, and the only thing
* * *at 90' is pure covariant wanks.

Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.


Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u


* *But, since atoms have photons too, that's just the same
* *thing as saying: *if you wish hard enough, atoms will turn
* *into light.





So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.


Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave


Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.


After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.


Bye
Sanny


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Dear zzbunker: I tend to agree. Like "string" theory, this "light is
this; light is that" only shows that the status quo physicists don't
know. But I know that light is just PHOTONS! And those will travel
perfectly well in the background ether, or in the "Swiss Cheese" voids
between galaxies where there is little or no ether. Those voids are
the super highways for trans-Universe travel! — NoEinstein —
 




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