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Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Eric Gisse
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Default Are gamma-rays slower than microwaves ? I wonder.

On Feb 20, 6:32 pm, Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:
$B!H(B e ^ 2 == ( m * c^2 )^2 + ( p * c )^2 $B!I(B ( c-style notation ),

Zero is a metaphysical number, wholly unphysical, not empirical.
Empirical numbers have error bars, verified by third parties.
Are gamma-rays slower than microwaves ? I wonder.


You wonder but will you even bother to do the literature search?

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Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Jeff▲Relf
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Default Did Einstein say a photon has proper mass ?

Did Einstein say a photon has proper mass ?
If so, where ? Did he venture to guess what it was ?

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Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Eric Gisse
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Default Did Einstein say a photon has proper mass ?

On Feb 20, 7:21 pm, Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:
Did Einstein say a photon has proper mass ?
If so, where ? Did he venture to guess what it was ?


Here's a thought: spend a little less time ****ing with your worthless
hand-rolled client and breaking standards in your typical infuriating
and purposeful manner, and more time doing literature searches before
asking stupid questions.
  #14  
Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Jeff▲Relf
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Default I think my “ Stupid ” question would be best answered by Peter Brown.

I think my “ Stupid ” question would be best answered by Peter Brown,
not Google. Pete does not approve of your attitude, Gisse.

  #15  
Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Y.Porat
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Default Work = energy?

On Feb 20, 9:53*am, Eric Gisse wrote:
On Feb 19, 10:38 pm, "Y.y.Porat" wrote:

2
they could not understand that
*NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS !!


*(which should be one of the basics of physics
and a more powerful 'lithmus paper' to examine
quickly if a theory makes physics sense
or jsut a fairy tale *! *(spelling for 'tale ' *taile ?? )
ie nonsens physics
anyway
*years later *even Gisse * &Co will get it
but he wil claime that that is** his** innovation.. *(:-)


ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------


What a blithering idiot. You still don't get that E = mc^2 isn't valid
for moving objects.- Hide quoted text -


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imbecil parrot
so what is that c there??


have you heared about
INTRINSIC MOVEMENT ??


doe s a little ****er like you what toteachme
about the structure of matter and energy
and mass problems ??
just whipe out the milk from your stupid arrogant face


What are you even trying to say? Your gibberish has improved - nobody
knows what the hell you are talking about.





ATB
Y.Porat- Hide quoted text -


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of course you cant understand
you cant understand anything that is not in your textbook

(what has all that got to do with my English crooky??)

and your parrot teachers
(may be the white bears of Alaska ??)
what might be intrinsic movement
inside the Atom that gives it its internal energy
2
tell your bears of Alaska that
ENERGY IS MASS IN MOVEMENT
no matter how you turn it around
3
satrt understanding physics before mathematics
got it little 24 years parrot??

(generally young people are less parrots then you are
they have an open criticising mind)

Y.Porat
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Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Eric Gisse
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Default Work = energy?

On Feb 21, 12:30 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Feb 20, 9:53 am, Eric Gisse wrote:



On Feb 19, 10:38 pm, "Y.y.Porat" wrote:


2
they could not understand that
NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS !!


(which should be one of the basics of physics
and a more powerful 'lithmus paper' to examine
quickly if a theory makes physics sense
or jsut a fairy tale ! (spelling for 'tale ' taile ?? )
ie nonsens physics
anyway
years later even Gisse &Co will get it
but he wil claime that that is** his** innovation.. (:-)


ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------


What a blithering idiot. You still don't get that E = mc^2 isn't valid
for moving objects.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


-----------------
imbecil parrot
so what is that c there??


have you heared about
INTRINSIC MOVEMENT ??


doe s a little ****er like you what toteachme
about the structure of matter and energy
and mass problems ??
just whipe out the milk from your stupid arrogant face


What are you even trying to say? Your gibberish has improved - nobody
knows what the hell you are talking about.


ATB
Y.Porat- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


----------------
of course you cant understand
you cant understand anything that is not in your textbook

(what has all that got to do with my English crooky??)


It means that more often than not I actually have no idea what you are
really trying to say because you **** up your English so badly that a
native speaker can't parse your output.


and your parrot teachers
(may be the white bears of Alaska ??)
what might be intrinsic movement
inside the Atom that gives it its internal energy
2
tell your bears of Alaska that
ENERGY IS MASS IN MOVEMENT
no matter how you turn it around
3
satrt understanding physics before mathematics
got it little 24 years parrot??

(generally young people are less parrots then you are
they have an open criticising mind)

Y.Porat
--------------------------------


  #17  
Old February 21st 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Eric Gisse
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Default I think my " Stupid " question would be best answered by PeterBrown.

On Feb 20, 7:53 pm, Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:
I think my $B!H(B Stupid $B!I(B question would be best answered by Peter Brown,
not Google. Pete does not approve of your attitude, Gisse.


Then email him and don't respond to me with the question.

Also, I don't care if Pete likes my attitude or not - I don't like you.
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Old February 23rd 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
pmb
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Default I think my " Stupid " question would be best answered by PeterBrown.

On Feb 20, 11:53 pm, Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:
I think my " Stupid " question would be best answered by Peter Brown,
not Google. Petedoes not approve of your attitude, Gisse.


Hi Jeff

I assume that you're referring to this question

Did Einstein say a photon has proper mass ?


I don't recall him saying it verbatim but I believe that he would say,
if asked, that a photon has zero proper mass and mass due to its
energy given by M = E/c^2. In fact Einstein was refering to the mass
of light once when he wrote the comment "A beam of light carries
energy and energy has mass."

If so, where ? Did he venture to guess what it was ?


You can't expect to look for modern terminology in days when the
didn't use this modern terminology. If I come across a place where
Einstein indicates that light has zero rest mass (aka proper mass)
then I'll let you know.

Pete
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Old February 23rd 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
Jeff▲Relf
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Default Did Einstein explicitly say: “ Photons have no rest mass. ” ?

So ( to recap ) you don't know if Einstein explicitly said
something like: “ Photons have no rest mass. ”.
I can't believe he was silent on this matter.

You told me:
“ If I come across a place where Einstein indicates that
light has zero rest mass ( aka proper mass ) [ or not ]
then I'll let you know. ”.

Thanks, that would be grand ! I love your non-judgmental attitude.

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Old February 23rd 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity
pmb
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Default Did Einstein explicitly say: " Photons have no rest mass. " ?

On Feb 23, 4:26 am, Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:
So ( to recap ) you don't know if Einstein explicitly said
something like: " Photons have no rest mass. ".
I can't believe he was silent on this matter.

You told me:
" If I come across a place where Einstein indicates that
light has zero rest mass ( aka proper mass ) [ or not ]
then I'll let you know. ".

Thanks, that would be grand ! I love your non-judgmental attitude.


Thanks Jeff. I appreciate that. I see no reason for being judgemental
at all. It serves no purpose that I can see. It only does more to make
people feel less free to askk questions, most of which are very
legitimate as this one is.

Best wishes

Pete
 




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