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Question about 5-D Kaluza Klein Theories with a Timelike rather than Spacelike Extra Dimension



 
 
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Old February 15th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Jay R. Yablon
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Default Question about 5-D Kaluza Klein Theories with a Timelike rather than Spacelike Extra Dimension

Most of not all of the Kaluza-Klein models that I have seen employ a
fifth dimension which is spacelike, that is, in which the Minkowski
metric tensor signature is +----. These need to be compactified, they
run into chirality issues, need for orbifolding, etc.

I am curious if there are any reviews of theories where the extra
dimension is *timelike* rather than spacelike, i.e., with a +---+
signature, which of the problems that appear from an extra spacelike
dimension are averted, and what new perceived problems arise by
switching the extra dimension over from spacelike to timelike.

In short: what are the perceived problems / challenges of Kaluza Klein
theories that employ an extra timelike dimension, and which of the
problems / challenges that exist in theories with an extra spacelike
dimension are sidestepped or avoided?

Thanks,

Jay.
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On Feb 15, 1:40*pm, "Jay R. Yablon" wrote:

I did a quick google search with
kaluza klein timelike

And go this:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...7f59c387dd5b4f
"Brane-universe in six dimensions with two times", Merab Gogberashvili

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0105/0105080v2.pdf
"GRAVITATIONAL STABILITY AND SCREENING EFFECT FROM EXTRA TIMELIKE
DIMENSIONS", SATOSHI MATSUDA

http://backreaction.blogspot.com/200...imensions.html
... may or may not be worth reading. Way over my head.

David A. Smith
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Old February 16th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Question about 5-D Kaluza Klein Theories with a Timelike rather than Spacelike Extra Dimension


"Jay R. Yablon" wrote in message ...
Most of not all of the Kaluza-Klein models that I have seen employ a
fifth dimension which is spacelike, that is, in which the Minkowski
metric tensor signature is +----. These need to be compactified, they
run into chirality issues, need for orbifolding, etc.

I am curious if there are any reviews of theories where the extra
dimension is *timelike* rather than spacelike, i.e., with a +---+
signature, which of the problems that appear from an extra spacelike
dimension are averted, and what new perceived problems arise by
switching the extra dimension over from spacelike to timelike.

In short: what are the perceived problems / challenges of Kaluza Klein
theories that employ an extra timelike dimension, and which of the
problems / challenges that exist in theories with an extra spacelike
dimension are sidestepped or avoided?


I suggest posting your question on the moderated group sci.physics.research


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Old February 18th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Question about 5-D Kaluza Klein Theories with a Timelike rather than Spacelike Extra Dimension


Check out the work of Itzhak Bars:
http://www.physorg.com/news98468776.html


"Jay R. Yablon" wrote in message
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Most of not all of the Kaluza-Klein models that I have seen employ a
fifth dimension which is spacelike, that is, in which the Minkowski
metric tensor signature is +----. These need to be compactified, they
run into chirality issues, need for orbifolding, etc.

I am curious if there are any reviews of theories where the extra
dimension is *timelike* rather than spacelike, i.e., with a +---+
signature, which of the problems that appear from an extra spacelike
dimension are averted, and what new perceived problems arise by
switching the extra dimension over from spacelike to timelike.

In short: what are the perceived problems / challenges of Kaluza Klein
theories that employ an extra timelike dimension, and which of the
problems / challenges that exist in theories with an extra spacelike
dimension are sidestepped or avoided?

Thanks,

Jay.
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Old February 18th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Jay R. Yablon
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Default Question about 5-D Kaluza Klein Theories with a Timelike rather than Spacelike Extra Dimension

"Martin Hogbin" wrote in message
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"Jay R. Yablon" wrote in message
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Most of not all of the Kaluza-Klein models that I have seen employ a
fifth dimension which is spacelike, that is, in which the Minkowski
metric tensor signature is +----. These need to be compactified,
they
run into chirality issues, need for orbifolding, etc.

I am curious if there are any reviews of theories where the extra
dimension is *timelike* rather than spacelike, i.e., with a +---+
signature, which of the problems that appear from an extra spacelike
dimension are averted, and what new perceived problems arise by
switching the extra dimension over from spacelike to timelike.

In short: what are the perceived problems / challenges of Kaluza
Klein
theories that employ an extra timelike dimension, and which of the
problems / challenges that exist in theories with an extra spacelike
dimension are sidestepped or avoided?


I suggest posting your question on the moderated group
sci.physics.research


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Martin Hogbin

Already did and got a reply. Thanks. Jay.


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Old February 18th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Question about 5-D Kaluza Klein Theories with a Timelike rather than Spacelike Extra Dimension

"dlzc" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 1:40 pm, "Jay R. Yablon" wrote:

I did a quick google search with
kaluza klein timelike

And go this:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...7f59c387dd5b4f
"Brane-universe in six dimensions with two times", Merab Gogberashvili

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0105/0105080v2.pdf
"GRAVITATIONAL STABILITY AND SCREENING EFFECT FROM EXTRA TIMELIKE
DIMENSIONS", SATOSHI MATSUDA

http://backreaction.blogspot.com/200...imensions.html
.... may or may not be worth reading. Way over my head.

David A. Smith

Thank you! Jay.


 




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