Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe.
All the rest are just details.

When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it
started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it
into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein
alluded to.

The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart
so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

On 14 Feb, 03:39, wrote:
Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe.
All the rest are just details.
When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it
started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it
into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein
alluded to.
The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart
so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

And what was there, before the beginning of the Universe/ Multiverse,
Bang or no Bang! It seems to me that both empirically and logically we
are confronted with isoluble regressions, though, of course, locally,
at least, most of our math and physics seems to work and be
productive, so you are right to raise problems and paradoxes in
connexion with either. But what lies, if anything, beyond our island
of mathematical physics, lies, it would seem to me, beyond our grasp!
Roger Penroses's 'The Emperoror's New Mind' is worth a visit, if only
because it blocks so many glib (mostly implicit: we know) metaphysical
solutions, yet it is a Chinese dinner, and you find yourself raiding
the fridge in the middle of the night!
--
'foolsrushin.'

On Feb 15, 1:36*pm, "foolsrushin." wrote:
On 14 Feb, 03:39, wrote:

Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe.
All the rest are just details.
When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it
started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it
into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein
alluded to.
The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart
so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

And what was there, before the beginning of the Universe/ Multiverse,
Bang or no Bang! It seems to me that both empirically and logically we
are confronted with isoluble regressions, though, of course, locally,
at least, most of our math and physics seems to work and be
productive, so you are right to raise problems and paradoxes in
connexion with either. But what lies, if anything, beyond our island
of mathematical physics, lies, it would seem to me, beyond our grasp!
Roger Penroses's 'The Emperoror's New Mind' is worth a visit, if only
because it blocks so many glib (mostly implicit: we know) metaphysical
solutions, yet it is a Chinese dinner, and you find yourself raiding
the fridge in the middle of the night!
--
'foolsrushin.'

There is no multiverse. There is only one universe. It is Einstein's
closed universe with a beginning and an infinite future for us. There
was no before the beginning of time.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

foolsrushin. wrote:
On 14 Feb, 03:39, wrote:
Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe.
All the rest are just details.
When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it
started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it
into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein
alluded to.
The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart
so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

And what was there, before the beginning of the Universe/ Multiverse,
Bang or no Bang!

The question is meaningless. Time is only measured relative to events:
this was the firtst event. Ergo no time existed before it. Ergo you
cannot talk about 'what happened before'




It seems to me that both empirically and logically we
are confronted with isoluble regressions, though, of course, locally,
at least, most of our math and physics seems to work and be
productive, so you are right to raise problems and paradoxes in
connexion with either. But what lies, if anything, beyond our island
of mathematical physics, lies, it would seem to me, beyond our grasp!

Of course: we have a one pointed view of te universe, and it is not
likley that its simple enough taht a being contsrined within it can
encompass ALL he compleities of it.

The big bang is just a point on a set of graphs wher all the linees tend
back to....it is somewhat simpler to explain the world in terms of one
inexplicable, singular event, that had 'character' than an Act of
Conscious creation that started a billion timelines simultaneously at
some later date.


Roger Penroses's 'The Emperoror's New Mind' is worth a visit, if only
because it blocks so many glib (mostly implicit: we know) metaphysical
solutions, yet it is a Chinese dinner, and you find yourself raiding
the fridge in the middle of the night!
--
'foolsrushin.'

wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:36 pm, "foolsrushin." wrote:
On 14 Feb, 03:39, wrote:

Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe.
All the rest are just details.
When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it
started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it
into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein
alluded to.
The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart
so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
And what was there, before the beginning of the Universe/ Multiverse,
Bang or no Bang! It seems to me that both empirically and logically we
are confronted with isoluble regressions, though, of course, locally,
at least, most of our math and physics seems to work and be
productive, so you are right to raise problems and paradoxes in
connexion with either. But what lies, if anything, beyond our island
of mathematical physics, lies, it would seem to me, beyond our grasp!
Roger Penroses's 'The Emperoror's New Mind' is worth a visit, if only
because it blocks so many glib (mostly implicit: we know) metaphysical
solutions, yet it is a Chinese dinner, and you find yourself raiding
the fridge in the middle of the night!
--
'foolsrushin.'

There is no multiverse. There is only one universe.

Matter of definition.

It is Einstein's
closed universe with a beginning and an infinite future for us.

? really? Says who?

There
was no before the beginning of time.

tautology, if true.


Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

On 15 Feb, 22:02, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:36*pm, "foolsrushin." wrote:
On 14 Feb, 03:39, wrote:
Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe.
All the rest are just details.
When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it
started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it
into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein
alluded to.
The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart
so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
And what was there, before the beginning of the Universe/ Multiverse,
Bang or no Bang! It seems to me that both empirically and logically we
are confronted with isoluble regressions, though, of course, locally,
at least, most of our math and physics seems to work and be
productive, so you are right to raise problems and paradoxes in
connexion with either. But what lies, if anything, beyond our island
of mathematical physics, lies, it would seem to me, beyond our grasp!
Roger Penroses's 'The Emperoror's New Mind' is worth a visit, if only
because it blocks so many glib (mostly implicit: we know) metaphysical
solutions, yet it is a Chinese dinner, and you find yourself raiding
the fridge in the middle of the night!
--
'foolsrushin.'

There is no multiverse. There is only one universe. [exclusive enough!] It is
Einstein's closed universe with a beginning and an infinite future for us. There
was no before the beginning of time. Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate
2008

True by [[y]our] definition, but I am not so sure! Things that wink in
and out at will, radar now, then no target ... . Even Hynek and Sagan
were intrigued by the performance of whatever they were!

23 November, 1953: This is not some sort of subjective nonsense,
except you are a debunker or not too bright. Scrambled from its
Kinross Air Force Base, a USAF F-89 Scorpion was sent up to intercept
a UFO. 'The two radar blips merged into one and the airbase lost radio
contact with the plane. Then the radio 'blip' disaappeared, too.
Eventually, the air controller had to file an accident report.
Neither the pilot, Lieutenant Moncala nor his radar observer were ever
heard from again. A search for the craft was negative - and , of
course, I have made all this up! Don't be a twit!

Go on, investigate! Andy try the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RwNNDg2I8A
--
'foolsrushin.'