they pretend empirical observations everywhere

but factually there are no empiricals in relaticity
whatsoever

what they want is that they want you to want bulive
that relaticity is all about empirical observations

then this is no wonder

if they bulive in this big universe came out of
nothing, than they can bulive anything

end of story

No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.

On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.

are you kidding us?

your "before" involves time

what time are talkin about before
bigbang or whatever?

On Feb 10, 4:11*pm, spoonbender wrote:
On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:

No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.

are you kidding us?

your "before" involves time

what time are talkin about before
bigbang or whatever?

xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning? If you have no end,
there was no beginning.

Time is merely a process rate for a changing existence. How do you
wish time would NOT be if there is changing existense?

"xxein" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:

No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.

are you kidding us?

your "before" involves time

what time are talkin about before
bigbang or whatever?

xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?

Geez you stupid ****.

On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

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On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:

On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:

No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.

are you kidding us?

your "before" involves time

what time are talkin about before
bigbang or whatever?

xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?

Geez you stupid ****.


I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe
gives us the prospective of time beginning for that universe.Its not
necessarily the beginning of time per say just our prospective of
time.
Take a look at these other series of postings if you want to see a
possible explanation.
space: gravity's effect on time and expansion?

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| On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
| "xxein" wrote in message
|
|
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| On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
|
| On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
|
| No body said "nothing".
| Try reading good references.
| No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
| before the bang.
| But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| So its not much of a concern right now.
|
| are you kidding us?
|
| your "before" involves time
|
| what time are talkin about before
| bigbang or whatever?
|
| xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
|
| Geez you stupid ****.
|
|
| I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe

What "creation"?
Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
and no end, forever and ever amen?

On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
wrote in message

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| On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
| "xxein" wrote in message
|
| ...
| On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
|
| On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
|
| No body said "nothing".
| Try reading good references.
| No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
| before the bang.
| But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| So its not much of a concern right now.
|
| are you kidding us?
|
| your "before" involves time
|
| what time are talkin about before
| bigbang or whatever?
|
| xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
|
| Geez you stupid ****.
|
|
| I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe

What "creation"?
Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
and no end, forever and ever amen?

No not that way at all.
The creation of our universe is also the creation of time for that
universe.Its a prospective thing.
See the other thread for this discussion its to much to re write for
here.
Dale

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| On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
| wrote in message
|
|
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| | On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
| | "xxein" wrote in message
| |
| |
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| | On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
| |
| | On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
| |
| | No body said "nothing".
| | Try reading good references.
| | No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
| | before the bang.
| | But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| | So its not much of a concern right now.
| |
| | are you kidding us?
| |
| | your "before" involves time
| |
| | what time are talkin about before
| | bigbang or whatever?
| |
| | xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
| |
| | Geez you stupid ****.
| |
| |
| | I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| | causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe
|
| What "creation"?
| Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
| and no end, forever and ever amen?
|
| No not that way at all.
| The creation

What creation?

On Feb 11, 8:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
wrote in message

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| On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "Androcles" wrote:| wrote in message

|
| ...
| | On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
| | "xxein" wrote in message
| |
| |
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| | On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
| |
| | On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
| |
| | No body said "nothing".
| | Try reading good references.
| | No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
| | before the bang.
| | But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| | So its not much of a concern right now.
| |
| | are you kidding us?
| |
| | your "before" involves time
| |
| | what time are talkin about before
| | bigbang or whatever?
| |
| | xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
| |
| | Geez you stupid ****.
| |
| |
| | I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| | causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe
|
| What "creation"?
| Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
| and no end, forever and ever amen?
|
| No not that way at all.
| The creation

What creation?

The Big Bang, Inflation theory.And yes universes probably die of heat
death but that might not be the only thing determining the life time
of the universe.
Dale