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why relativists believes in bigbang out of nothing?



 
 
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Old February 12th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Androcles[_7_]
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| On Feb 11, 8:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
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| | On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "Androcles" wrote:|
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| | | On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles"
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| | | "xxein" wrote in message
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| | | On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
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| | | On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
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| | | No body said "nothing".
| | | Try reading good references.
| | | No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly
happen
| | | before the bang.
| | | But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| | | So its not much of a concern right now.
| | |
| | | are you kidding us?
| | |
| | | your "before" involves time
| | |
| | | what time are talkin about before
| | | bigbang or whatever?
| | |
| | | xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
| | |
| | | Geez you stupid ****.
| | |
| | |
| | | I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| | | causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe
| |
| | What "creation"?
| | Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
| | and no end, forever and ever amen?
| |
| | No not that way at all.
| | The creation
|
| What creation?
|
| The Big Bang, Inflation theory.

What big bang?

| And yes universes probably die of heat
| death but that might not be the only thing determining the life time
| of the universe.

What life time?

Look, son, if you are going to make absurd assumptions you
should at least have some evidence for supposing them.
What evidence do you have that a single atom of hydrogen ever
had a birth, a life or a death? Answer: NONE.

Yet here you are, trying to tell me that the entire universe has a
beginning, a life span and an ending, or even worse, *probably*
does, where "probably" simply means your personal prejudice
based on your anthropomorphic notions that inanimate objects
behave like great apes.
Who do you think you are fooling? You are probably one of the
sheep, when one say "baa" they all do, including you.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SR.GIF


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Old February 12th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default why relativists believes in bigbang out of nothing?

On Feb 11, 1:14*am, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

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On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:

On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:


No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.


are you kidding us?


your "before" involves time


what time are talkin about before
bigbang or whatever?


xxein: *Do you have an end with no beginning?

Geez you stupid ****.


xxein: That is not an answer. I guess you have none (as expected).
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Old February 13th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Androcles[_7_]
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"xxein" wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 1:14 am, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

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On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:

On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:


No body said "nothing".
Try reading good references.
No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly happen
before the bang.
But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
So its not much of a concern right now.


are you kidding us?


your "before" involves time


what time are talkin about before
bigbang or whatever?


xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?

Geez you stupid ****.


xxein: That is not an answer. I guess you have none (as expected).

Geez you stupid ****.




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Old February 13th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
lithium@nbnet.nb.ca
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Default why relativists believes in bigbang out of nothing?

On Feb 12, 2:50 am, "Androcles" wrote:
wrote in message

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| On Feb 11, 8:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:| wrote in message

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| ...
| | On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "Androcles" wrote:| wrote in message

|
| |
| |
...

| | | On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles"
wrote:
| | | "xxein" wrote in message
| | |
| | |
|
...

| | | On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
| | |
| | | On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
| | |
| | | No body said "nothing".
| | | Try reading good references.
| | | No body said "nothing", they just don't know what exactly
happen
| | | before the bang.
| | | But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| | | So its not much of a concern right now.
| | |
| | | are you kidding us?
| | |
| | | your "before" involves time
| | |
| | | what time are talkin about before
| | | bigbang or whatever?
| | |
| | | xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
| | |
| | | Geez you stupid ****.
| | |
| | |
| | | I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| | | causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our universe
| |
| | What "creation"?
| | Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
| | and no end, forever and ever amen?
| |
| | No not that way at all.
| | The creation
|
| What creation?
|
| The Big Bang, Inflation theory.

What big bang?

| And yes universes probably die of heat
| death but that might not be the only thing determining the life time
| of the universe.

What life time?

Look, son, if you are going to make absurd assumptions you
should at least have some evidence for supposing them.
What evidence do you have that a single atom of hydrogen ever
had a birth, a life or a death? Answer: NONE.


Actually you might be semi right.The alternative theory I promote
works on the idea that when space was created you can end up with
multiple copies of much smaller number of original protons or
neutrons.Its not really that easy to pull a proton or neutron apart
and attempting to do so is more likely to give you multiple copies
along with of course an equal amount of anti protons etc.The alternate
theory dose little to address how the original baryonic matter got its
original start because you need a previous universe with one before it
etceteras.
You need to read the stuff in the other thread and I promise you wont
be disappointed.
See
space: gravity's effect on time and expansion?



Yet here you are, trying to tell me that the entire universe has a
beginning, a life span and an ending, or even worse, *probably*
does, where "probably" simply means your personal prejudice
based on your anthropomorphic notions that inanimate objects
behave like great apes.
Who do you think you are fooling? You are probably one of the
sheep, when one say "baa" they all do, including you.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SR.GIF


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Old February 13th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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| On Feb 12, 2:50 am, "Androcles" wrote:
| wrote in message
|
| ...
| | On Feb 11, 8:14 pm, "Androcles" wrote:|
wrote in message

|
| |
| |
...

| | | On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "Androcles"
wrote:| wrote in message
|
| |
| | |
| | |
|
...

| | | | On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, "Androcles"
| wrote:
| | | | "xxein" wrote in message
| | | |
| | | |
| |
|
...

| | | | On Feb 10, 4:11 pm, spoonbender wrote:
| | | |
| | | | On Feb 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
| | | |
| | | | No body said "nothing".
| | | | Try reading good references.
| | | | No body said "nothing", they just don't know what
exactly
| happen
| | | | before the bang.
| | | | But that doesn't matter to know the event after it.
| | | | So its not much of a concern right now.
| | | |
| | | | are you kidding us?
| | | |
| | | | your "before" involves time
| | | |
| | | | what time are talkin about before
| | | | bigbang or whatever?
| | | |
| | | | xxein: Do you have an end with no beginning?
| | | |
| | | | Geez you stupid ****.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | I used to have a problem with this too.The whole thing without
| | | | causality etc.Its more probable that the creation of our
universe
| | |
| | | What "creation"?
| | | Are you another god freak? A ****** that assumes a beginning
| | | and no end, forever and ever amen?
| | |
| | | No not that way at all.
| | | The creation
| |
| | What creation?
| |
| | The Big Bang, Inflation theory.
|
| What big bang?
|
| | And yes universes probably die of heat
| | death but that might not be the only thing determining the life time
| | of the universe.
|
| What life time?
|
| Look, son, if you are going to make absurd assumptions you
| should at least have some evidence for supposing them.
| What evidence do you have that a single atom of hydrogen ever
| had a birth, a life or a death? Answer: NONE.
|
| Actually you might be semi right.The alternative theory I promote
| works on the idea that when space was created you can end up with
| multiple copies of much smaller number of original protons or
| neutrons.Its not really that easy to pull a proton or neutron apart
| and attempting to do so is more likely to give you multiple copies
| along with of course an equal amount of anti protons etc.The alternate
| theory dose little to address how the original baryonic matter got its
| original start because you need a previous universe with one before it
| etceteras.
| You need to read the stuff in the other thread and I promise you wont
| be disappointed.

Actually you might be semi wrong, I already am disappointed.
I don't give a hoot what theory you have unless I can do something
useful with it. My theory is that bright green flying elephants lay
their eggs in black holes, which is about as much use to you
as your theories are to me. Should you ever find a black hole,
look inside it for broken eggshell, would you?



| See
| space: gravity's effect on time and expansion?

No. Go find a black hole for me.



|
|
| Yet here you are, trying to tell me that the entire universe has a
| beginning, a life span and an ending, or even worse, *probably*
| does, where "probably" simply means your personal prejudice
| based on your anthropomorphic notions that inanimate objects
| behave like great apes.
| Who do you think you are fooling? You are probably one of the
| sheep, when one say "baa" they all do, including you.
| http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SR.GIF
|


 




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