"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 5:47 pm, Peri of Pera wrote:
On Feb 5, 3:39 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:

Nonsense. Voigt was the first to speculate on the constancy in the
speed of light. As a modification to the Galilean transform, the
Voigt transform does not invoke time dilation. However, it has other
problems. The Lorentz transform was first put together by Larmor, and
in doing so, Larmor had already noticed such a situation in time
dilation.

Maxwell was the first to include the speed of light as a constant in
his equations.

The constant speed of light, as derived by Gauss, Faraday, Ampere,
Weber, Maxwell, and others, is the same as the saying the speed of
sound is constant. It is only constant relative to someone at
absolute rest in the medium. In this model, both the speed and the
frequency of any traveling waves vary, and the wavelength becomes
invariant.

Which, of course, we knwo from experiment is not the case .. wavelength is
not invariant

[snip]
Larmor was the first to come up with the Lorentz transform. Please
don't assume that he was a vegetable. Please don't assume that anyone
who can derive the Lorentz transform is an idiot.

Indded .. there were many people invovled around that time .. none of them
idiot .. and all eserved of respect .. including Einstein

On Feb 5, 10:12 pm, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Koobee Wublee" wrote:

The constant speed of light, as derived by Gauss, Faraday, Ampere,
Weber, Maxwell, and others, is the same as the saying the speed of
sound is constant. It is only constant relative to someone at
absolute rest in the medium. In this model, both the speed and the
frequency of any traveling waves vary, and the wavelength becomes
invariant.

Which, of course, we knwo from experiment is not the case .. wavelength is
not invariant

And which experiment is that?

Larmor was the first to come up with the Lorentz transform. Please
don't assume that he was a vegetable. Please don't assume that anyone
who can derive the Lorentz transform is an idiot.

Indded .. there were many people invovled around that time .. none of them
idiot .. and all eserved of respect .. including Einstein

That is very debate that all were respectable. However, the one for
sure that is not respectable was Einstein, the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar. shrug

"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 10:12 pm, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Koobee Wublee" wrote:

The constant speed of light, as derived by Gauss, Faraday, Ampere,
Weber, Maxwell, and others, is the same as the saying the speed of
sound is constant. It is only constant relative to someone at
absolute rest in the medium. In this model, both the speed and the
frequency of any traveling waves vary, and the wavelength becomes
invariant.
Which, of course, we knwo from experiment is not the case .. wavelength
is
not invariant
And which experiment is that?

Experiments showing the wavelength of light from istant starts if Doppler
shifte

Larmor was the first to come up with the Lorentz transform. Please
don't assume that he was a vegetable. Please don't assume that anyone
who can derive the Lorentz transform is an idiot.
Indded .. there were many people invovled around that time .. none of
them
idiot .. and all eserved of respect .. including Einstein
That is very debate that all were respectable. However, the one for
sure that is not respectable was Einstein, the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar. shrug

Your prejudice and hatred blind you.

On Feb 5, 11:47 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:

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On Feb 6, 1:46*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:47 pm, Peri of Pera wrote:

On Feb 5, 3:39 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
Nonsense. *Voigt was the first to speculate on the constancy in the
speed of light. *As a modification to the Galilean transform, the
Voigt transform does not invoke time dilation. *However, it has other
problems. *The Lorentz transform was first put together by Larmor, and
in doing so, Larmor had already noticed such a situation in time
dilation.
Maxwell was the first to include the speed of light as a constant in
his equations.

The constant speed of light, as derived by Gauss, Faraday, Ampere,
Weber, Maxwell, and others, is the same as the saying the speed of
sound is constant. *It is only constant relative to someone at
absolute rest in the medium. *In this model, both the speed and the
frequency of any traveling waves vary, and the wavelength becomes
invariant.

Voigt was the first to formulate the 'Lorentz' transforms.

Voigt's modification to the Galilean transform becomes the Voigt
transform. *The Voigt transform satisfies the null results of the MMX
but fails the principle of relativity. *The Voigt transform is
described as follows.

dt' = dt - v dx / c^2
dx' = dx - v dt
dy' = dy sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)
dz' = dz sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)

Larmor was the second.

Larmor was the first to modify the Voigt transform to satisfy the
principle of relativity. *His transform also satisfied the null
results of MMX is the Lorentz transform as described below.

dt' = (dt - v dx / c^2) / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)
dx' = (dx - v dt) / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)
dy' = dy
dz' = dz

Lorentz was the third.

Lorentz was an acquaintance of Larmor. *If Lorentz did come up with
the Lorentz transform, he would be guilty of plagiarism.

Lorentz corresponded with Voigt.

Yes, Lorentz knew about Voigt's work as well.

Lorentz may have been the first to come up with time dilation. I am
not sure.

Larmor was the first to come up with the Lorentz transform. *Please
don't assume that he was a vegetable. *Please don't assume that anyone
who can derive the Lorentz transform is an idiot. *Anyone can see that
the Lorentz transform manifests time dilation just by looking at the
mathematics involved, and that should include Larmor.

KoWu,
I agree with most of what you wrote. Well done.
Peter Riedt

On Feb 6, 12:01 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Koobee Wublee" wrote:

And which experiment is that?

Experiments showing the wavelength of light from istant starts if Doppler
shifte

What experiments again?

That is very debate that all were respectable. However, the one for
sure that is not respectable was Einstein, the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar. shrug

Your prejudice and hatred blind you.

I have no prejudice or hatred against anyone. shrug However, your
worship of Einstein blinds you from seeing what Einstein actually
was. Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. shrug

On Feb 6, 10:08 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Feb 6, 12:01 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:

"Koobee Wublee" wrote:
And which experiment is that?

Experiments showing the wavelength of light from istant starts if Doppler
shifte

What experiments again?

That is very debate that all were respectable. However, the one for
sure that is not respectable was Einstein, the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar. shrug

Your prejudice and hatred blind you.

I have no prejudice or hatred against anyone. shrug However, your
worship of Einstein

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they "worship
Einstein". All you do is cheap rhetoric.

blinds you from seeing what Einstein actually
was. Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. shrug

Oh, and the de rigeur cut and paste. Why don't you just abbreviate
that long phrase ("Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar.
shrug") to "EWANAPAALS". Still clumsy but shorter.

--
Jan Bielawski

On Feb 6, 10:15 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Feb 6, 10:08 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:

I have no prejudice or hatred against anyone. shrug However, your
worship of Einstein

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they "worship
Einstein". All you do is cheap rhetoric.

Oh, talking with tears in your eyes again? Just because I don't agree
with you, it does not mean I hate Einstein. All your accusation is a
cheap shot --- rhetorically below the belt. shrug

blinds you from seeing what Einstein actually
was. Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. shrug

Oh, and the de rigeur cut and paste. Why don't you just abbreviate
that long phrase ("Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar.
shrug") to "EWANAPAALS". Still clumsy but shorter.

Thank you for the suggestion, your majesty. I think you are running
out of attacks on me. It is actually time for the queer of England to
retire into that fat castle in the air. Please enjoy it while it
lasts, for the truth will prevail. Einstein was nothing but a nitwit,
a plagiarist, and a liar. shrug

Thanks for reading, your majesty.

"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message
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On Feb 6, 12:01 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Koobee Wublee" wrote:

And which experiment is that?

Experiments showing the wavelength of light from istant starts if Doppler
shifte

What experiments again?

That is very debate that all were respectable. However, the one for
sure that is not respectable was Einstein, the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar. shrug

Your prejudice and hatred blind you.

I have no prejudice or hatred against anyone. shrug

yes .. you do

However, your
worship of Einstein blinds you from seeing what Einstein actually
was.

I do not worship anyone

Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. shrug

Unlikely

"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message
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On Feb 6, 10:15 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Feb 6, 10:08 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:

I have no prejudice or hatred against anyone. shrug However, your
worship of Einstein

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they "worship
Einstein". All you do is cheap rhetoric.

Oh, talking with tears in your eyes again? Just because I don't agree
with you, it does not mean I hate Einstein. All your accusation is a
cheap shot --- rhetorically below the belt. shrug

So .. your accusations against a dead man who was well respected in the
scientific community isn't .. gimmee a break. . you're simply jealous of his
success and that you have none.