Who made God

My usual answer is that God made God. Yet what does that mean. Years
ago in Doppler Space Time I wrote the fast forwarding Law in order to solve
the double slit experiment in space time. Fast forwarding Law #1: An object
increasing speed to velocity V will have an effect in front of it moving with
velocity C. The electron accelerating in the cyclotron has an effect in front
of it which catchers up with it. It will have mass in front of it and it will have
a length in front of it. These will move and form standing waves as they
pass themselves.
If we move up to the infinite light speed of God, the fast forwarding law
permit’s the universe to come into existence prior to its present existence.
Thus it exists in the future prior to it existing in the past. This is freaky for
sure. Yet it solves the double slit experiment without the need for quantum
mechanics. Professor Feynman said it could not be done, but I did it.
In effect the means by which God made God are consistent with
electrical theory and the fast forwarding law. You can do a lot with electrical
theory. Now it appears that our concepts of space and time are faulty as
shown by the fast forwarding law. Thus my fast forwarding law shows that
the effect can come before the cause. The universe exists before it required
the means to make it exist. Then we can say that God today (the effect)
produced the cause of God. God made God. The universe made itself. It
is fascinating to look at the same law for a different question.
Please note that when we move at light speed, the clock does not move.
So we have reached the limits of time. Thus the Universe made itself in zero
time. Likewise God made Godself. So now we have a little better idea of
how God came into existence. The fast forwarding law did it.
The problem of cause and effect occurs when we exist at lower light speeds.
We have time clocks, we have rulers. Once we enter the light speed dimension,
the concepts of time and distance have no real meaning. There is no cause and
effect. Thus we enter the highest realm where everything is light energy. There are
only electromagnetic fields and waves and no physical entities such as electrons
and protons. At this level it cannot be asked what happened before this level.
Such questions are meaningless. Thus once we leave the physical world and enter
the mind of God we are eternal creatures. We existed before we were born. We
will exist long after we are dead. We enter a world of pure mind and pure thought.


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The truth of our existence
By
William Bond

I am totally fascinated as to how such brilliant minds cannot seem to
grasp the most simple of answers concerning the universe and how we
came to be.

How can it be that one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century
came up with the most widely used equation and everyone seems to know
what it says but when you point out something that is self evident
concerning the equation they seem to sidestep it and tell you that you
do not know what you are talking about and call you a lunatic. I am
talking about Albert Einstein and his famous equation of E=MC^2.

By the above equation we know that energy is equal to mass being
accelerated at the speed of light squared or in other words 299,792,458
times the speed of light.

Now, if we ask the most simple of questions concerning that energy what
would we get?
The question is; what type of energy are we talking about? When the
average scientist talks about energy it is usually based on heat,
light, magnetic, radioactive, electrical, etc. These forms of energy
are byproducts of matter. Matter is a byproduct of pure energy coming
together, the same energy that one would get from this equation. And
this is the one thing that scientists say cannot be, yet they always
refer to it. To me pure energy is a combination of two energy sources,
and for lack of better terms I will call them negative and positive,
yin and yang, male and female. To be pure energy it must be void of all
matter, and this equation makes it happen. That is the complete
conversion of matter into complete energy by acceleration of said
matter at the square of light speed. Of course we are working backwards
to get the explanation that we need to figure out what or who created
all things.

Our atomic bomb and atomic energy sources are based on this equation
and yet we say there is a speed limit in the universe that nothing can
go faster than the speed of light. So how can you have an equation that
says that you can get pure energy when accelerating matter at
299,792,458 times 299,792,458 meters per second? If there is a speed
limit then this equation is useless. The reason for the lengthy
explanation above is as follows.

There are terms we use in our society that greatly diminish the
usefulness of the same terms; that being, esoteric, magic, God, and the
supernatural. These very terms cause most in the scientific community
to cringe, and yet the same terms can be very useful under the right
circumstance to explain what the scientists wish to explain without
degradation of what they are talking about.

What I can surmise about scientists is that they wish to explain away
God, and the supernatural. I do not believe that the supernatural is
supernatural but that it is natural; we just do not have a file system
capable of acceptance of what it is at this time. Don't get me wrong,
I believe in God, and I believe in angels and I believe in demons,
devils and Satan. I believe in heaven and hell. I believe in Jesus
Christ and I also believe in ghosts. And none of these things are
supernatural, magical or esoteric. They are on a different plain of
existence, a different material or substance. But are as real as we are
and we may change into or are already a part of that same existence as
spiritual bodies.

Most people now question the bible in its integrity about the
supernaturalness of everything. And yet I say it again there is
nothing supernatural about the universe and God. God is both simple in
form and complex in the many diversities of his and hers creative
force. Simple because God is not the name of the substance or beings
that creates all things, God is a title of nobility, a statement of
force, a way for us to distinguish ourselves from that of a higher
force. God to me means one who can create and or destroy on a grand or
insignificant scale. As in, when we breed two separate styles of dog to
get a completely different breed, we have played God. We have in
essence created a new species. When we are in the lab, gene splicing or
creating super germs we are acting in behalf of God and in essence God
is working through us. Getting back to the beginning of this paper, God
is the pure energy that Albert Einstein came across. This pureness of
energy, both negative and positive, male and female is God.

The sheer essence of these two energy forces cannot help but create,
the reason is simple, negative energy I believe is the male aspect, it
is driven to the positive or female aspect, it moves towards it and in
so doing the movement could be classified as thought, the word, and
creation. I believe that the movement of negative to positive and
sometimes the other way around causes the one to envelope the other
creating a pocket of sorts, a spherical orb in space, space being the
vacancies of energy after coupling one to the other, I believe that the
coupling happens at such great velocities that the particle that was
created will live longer than the slower moving couplings, or in other
words, I believe that the speed at which creation happens determines
how long that particle lives.

I believe that the small particles called quarks, are then drawn close
together to create bigger elements we call atoms, atoms gravitate
towards one another to create particles, and the process gets bigger
and bigger. Finally you get stars, planets, and galaxies. And if the
elements are just right, you may get life to form on some of those
planets. As this takes place something remarkable happens, it all slows
down, the less energy available for coupling, the slower the creation
becomes, and also as things are created, they move away from the
creation point and expand or move away from each other in the universe.
This causes some stars to move slower than others, or some worlds to
move slower than others, the slower moving objects will die faster than
the faster moving objects through space. Life that evolves on planets
that move at fast speeds, and the particles that they are created with
will live a very long time, conversely life that evolves on slow moving
planets with slow particles will die much faster. Also, when a planet
or star or even a complete galaxy starts out moving at great speeds and
then starts to slow down, the age of said planets, stars and galaxies
will appear older than they really are.

As you remember, I told you that speed has to do with how long a
particle will last. The faster said particle, the longer the life, and
as it slows down, it ages faster compared to its original timing
sequence, until finally when the particle becomes so slow that it just
vanishes back into its original form of pure energy, both male and
female, if they re-couple again without a strong potential between them
then you will get a slow moving particle. But if they are drawn to
energies further away and with greater potential and more force we will
get a faster moving particle. The speed of the particle determines how
long the life of that particle is. Faster equals longer and slower
equals shorter lives.

Scientists have seen this happen, they know that particles vanish and
pop into existence with no explanation as to how or where it went or
where it came from.

Scientists have said that light is both wave and particle, now
particles slow down, not just in a linear fashion but also in speed of
vibration caused by coupling. Although you may never see or be able to
test for the vibration difference, this is because we are testing a
physical material with another physical material aging at the same
rate. Both need to be calculated to find out how long a particle will
last. Since the creation of our world, and the universe, it has slowed
down, everything has. Because of this, light also has slowed down. At
one time, light may have been just a little less than 299,792,458 times
its current speed, the reason is if it was exactly 299,792,458 times
the current speed of light, matter could never exist, you would just
have pure energy.

We at one time could prove it by using analog clocks and heavenly
bodies with a little math. But in our pursuit of absolutes and more
accuracies, we chose an atomic clock and its frequencies to determine
the speed of light and also the length of the meter. Because the
atomic clock is slowing down at the same rate as light, you will never
see the difference in its speed or the difference in the length of the
meter, even though the frequency of the atomic clock stays the same in
appearance it is slowing down with the rest of the particles in our
galaxy. Because of this, an inverse of time happens, in other words the
faster the particle or wave, the slower the time, the slower the
particle or wave, the faster the time and hence longer ages being
attributed to the slower moving particle, wave, planet, stars or
galaxies. As the frequency of the atomic clock stays the same, the
speed of light will look the same, and hence, the meter looks the same
to us. If we went back to using mechanical clocks to check the meter
and the speed of light we would find a great difference. But we cannot
use planetary bodies to do this with, the reason is simple, as the
meter is getting longer and the frequency of the atomic clock stays the
same, we see no real difference in how far the planets are from us, if
everything is expanding away from each other we cannot get an accurate
speed of light measurement using these methods of planetary bodies. We
have to find a way to figure out the speed of light on this planet
before we can figure out how far a star or planet is from us, and hence
also the speed at which we are aging at.

Because of the grandness of this energy source and the expanse of
space, we have a hard time accepting things that in and of themselves
are very simple. What I am trying to say is that when the movement of
energy towards the other energy happens, thought is formed. What
happens on the grand scale happens on the smaller scale. By examining
ourselves and our own world around us, we can know what is happening in
the universe and how all things work. As an example; when scientists
examine the brain, they see neurons firing; this can tell you that this
also happens on a more grand scale. When they take a small sampling
they call it chaos, this is because there vision is limited to such a
small area and that is all they see, but on a larger plain you can see
it as order. You get chaos out of order, not order out of chaos. This
is the law of entropy.

So when people of a religious faith say that intelligence created all
things, do not dismiss it, because that is exactly what created the
heavens and the universe. Some people call it the great hall of
knowledge, or the Akashic records.

I believe that all knowledge is already there, it is us that pick it up
from this great hall of knowledge and apply it in our realm, and call
it our own. I am sure that some of you have come across a time when
either you or a family member or friend was inspired and said things
that were very profound or prophetic, and you simply did not know how
or where such knowledge came from. I can tell you it was that brief
moment in time when you or another tapped into the infinite mind of the
universe, the Akashic records and perceived divine knowledge. As we
delve into this knowledge and apply it to our lives and to the planet
that we live on we become more enlightened. As time goes by and as God
sees fit He, being both male and female allow us to expand beyond our
world and move through the heavens to other worlds to explore and
create on. I believe this is what happened on this planet, that beings
from another world came here to exploit and have dominion on, and
created us to do there bidding, these beings came from a world that
moved very fast and hence they had a very long life. They where in
essence our Gods in the physical sense, but we also have a spiritual
God, the God that I have been talking about all through this paper.
When I say spiritual, I am talking about a more pure physical nature, a
more pure matter than our own. Spiritual also applies to the pureness
of energy. Now we are becoming more enlightened like our physical Gods
who created us and someday we will be able to do the same.

Ghosts, Demons, Devils, and Angels are all of a special physical
quality of God the spirit, a more pure form than our own. A refined
material existence, beings that can live as long as energy can live,
and we know that there is no beginning and no end to energy, that
energy has always been. We can manipulate it, nothing more. So life is
not just in what we feel is a physical reality, but also in a spiritual
sense of the word, in a more refined state of being. There could be
life on planets that we think are devoid of life, there could be life
on Stars and there could be life floating out in the vastness of space
surviving the extreme cold and radiation of all things, just because of
its refined state of being. We cannot keep up this closed minded view
of what denotes life and reality.

All things in our existence can be explained with the views that I have
presented in this paper. It is my hope that someday, someone will run
with this information and make it fit in the lives of every one and
every thing. That we will stop being so narrow minded about what life
is and is not. There will be a time when God calls his creation home as
if in a tremendous hug and all matter and energy will come again into a
finite point and be expelled once again to find its place in the
universe. That this pulse or heart beat has happened many times before,
and will happen even more times in the future. That the big bang is the
embrace of God letting go of His and Her children that they have
created in love for one another.

I make it no secret that I am LDS (Mormon), or that my favorite author
is Zecharia Sitchin. (But before we go on, I do not want anyone
thinking that my views represent or mirror those of the LDS church,
they do not. The only thing that being LDS does is make it acceptable
to believe in multiple gods, physical gods, and also the Spiritual God
talked about in the Scriptures.) Before reading anything from Sitchin,
I thought of how particles are created by me just sitting in a bathtub
swishing my hands through the water and gazing at the ripples and the
swirls. This brought me to my conclusions of how energy comes together
and creates matter.

It was not until much later did I refine my ideas and found out about
Sitchin and his writings. But I am going to go one step further than
Zecharia did and that is explain where our planet came from. This
information is strictly from inspiration on my own.

I believe that when life was just starting out on a planet we will call
Tiaburu, a combination of words of Tiamet and Niburu. That actions
where taking place in its solar system in that there sun was dieing.
Life was sufficient to record this information in a written language of
the inhabitance of that world, that they where a very large statured
race of beings and they had very large animals that lived on this
planet because of its immense size, gravity was such a very strong
force that life needed to compensate for it. That the sun swelled to a
super red giant orb and that Tiaburu was far enough away as to allow
life to keep going but not far enough away for it to cause another
world to be accelerated towards Tiaburu causing it to break into two
separate chunks or more.

When this happened the people called there chunk Niburu, and the other
chunk they called Tiamet. Now Tiamet flew away many millions of miles
as a lifeless planetoid, the debris of the original impact caused a
great dust cloud to cover Tiamet over as the waters froze beneath the
surface burying the life that once lived in its waters and land.
Leaving Niburu to suffer with less water and atmosphere, but life
continued and they watched Tiamet all the time. Niburu was on a
different orbital pattern from its original sun now. The planet was
accelerated at great speeds through space and life on Niburu became
long lived.

Now Tiamet came close to some dark matter that the Niburians could not
see, and locked the course of Tiamet within its grasp. Over many
millennium it stayed in it current path and the dark matter was getting
stronger causing a tug on Niburu. Niburu by now has become a very
sophisticated society and strong in the sciences and they new what was
happening. The Niburians prepared for the eminent disaster at hand as
there planet slowly started to shift its way through space and come
through the dark matter cloud where Tiamet settled.

As Niburu passed through the dark cloud it caused a tug on Tiamet
creating within it an atomic reaction which started heating up the ice
beneath the surface of the planetoid and caused a mist and a steam to
rise watering the whole face of the planet, now Tiamet became a great
watery giant, and Niburu now in orbit around this dark matter of 3,600
earth years per pass of Tiamet. As Niburu flies by again and gets close
to Tiamet the forces that where coming together in the dark matter got
strong enough to ignite causing light to shine.

And Niburu flies by again this time four moons come out of Niburu that
the Niburians called the four winds. And eleven moons came out of
Tiamet. As Niburu comes closer ten of the moons of Tiamet leave the
planets side leaving only one left called Kingu. The west wind of
Niburu hits Tiamet, cracking the planet and then Niburu passes by.
Again 3,600 years later Niburu comes close to Tiamet to where
Niburu's west wind or moon hits Tiamet breaking the planet up sending
half into a new orbit with Kingu and the other half being smashed into
the asteroid belt we call the hammered out bracelet. As the half of
Tiamet that survived found its new orbit the waters receded into the
cavity caused by the collision and dry land appeared. The smashing of
Tiamet caused a seeding of life on this new planet called earth to
where Trees and plants and all manner of animal life abounded, fish in
the seas, and birds in the air.

And all through this time Niburu's people became hot headed and
caused wars with one another and in so doing they almost destroyed
their planet with a nuclear war. It caused there air to diminish and
they had to find a way to survive. So some of their scientists came up
with an idea of suspending gold particles in the air to create a shield
effect from the sun (Sol) and other interstellar radiation. The problem
was that there was not enough of this element left on their planet
after all the disasters, and that they could find more gold on the new
planet earth.

One of the Niburians felt he was inclined for kingship but was
ostracized and hence felt that he could gain favor if he made the trip
to the planet earth to find gold. When he arrived he found the gold and
sent word back to Niburu. The king of Niburu sends his emissary to the
planet to verify the finds. Ea arrives on the planet and straight away
finds gold within the waters of the planet and sends word back that he
needs supplies and people to help mine the gold.

I am going to stop here; the reason is the rest of the story is told
very superbly in Zechariah's books "The Earth Chronicles" and
"The Lost book of Enki a memoir of an extraterrestrial God". I highly
recommend anyone to read these books. Although I will say this, the
bones we find in our planet may have lived during the time of earth,
but I feel that they really lived when Tiamet was part of Niburu called
Tiaburu. I do not think that the earth has had or ever will have such a
strong gravitational pull as to warrant the size of these creatures we
call dinosaurs. That is not to say that we did not have such large
animals walk earth, because of the lore of our people we seem to forget
that it is quite possible to have had dragons(dinosaurs) living amongst
us, that there are Trilobites still living in the Nevada desert.

This takes me back to the beginning of this paper. If science says that
a trilobite fossil is sixty million years old and they believe in
evolution, how come there are still trilobites living? Whould they not
have evolved into something else? The reason is simple, the planet has
slowed down along with the solar system, but Niburu is still much
faster than the earth. So as the earth slows down, it ages more
rapidly and we miss date the fossils to such extraordinary ages. This
does not say that evolution does not take place on this planet, but it
does say that our dating systems need to be revamped and also that we
humans have had an evolutionary jump because of the intervention of the
Niburians called the Anunnaki.

I know that this information sounds absurd, and that I am attacking
scientists and science. I do not mean to come across that way and for
that I am sorry. But me being someone who believes in science and also
religion and God, I came up with something that explains all points and
makes them fit together without problem for me. Not everyone will
believe what I have said, and nothing I have said can be proven one way
or another unless the Anunnaki come back to verify it. And since we are
made of matter, there is really no way of testing for pure energy, but
only can assume that there is.

Jerry wrote:
Who made God

Dunno, but the sod worked here for one week and then buggered off - we
haven't seen him since.

Typical builder...



SCW

Man Made God Man's ego saw to it he made God in his own image. We have
lots of paintings of the looks of God,but not one photograph TreBert.