I'll share some excerpts from Dr. Rein below where he continues (see
earlier message on "Non_Hertzian Energy... ") and mentions the quantum
biological mechanisms but I'll comment something first.

Quantum Biology is the study of the biological mechanisms or interface
of how chi, energy field, chakras, consciousness, etc. connects to
the body. Dr. Rein was the first to make a huge study of it since he
wanted to make out what chi and energy field are made of. I came
across his work in my own investigation of what chi is composed of.

Scientists, Physicists who don't even believe chi, energy field can
exist would instantly reject the study as nonsense. So even before
they start, they already "know" the answer that "they don't exist"
(such as Gordon here). It is best if one have at least first hand
experiences about chi, energy field that give him/her the conviction
it is real, but being open minded would be enough.

Since Quantum Biology or Quantum Bioenergetics is at its infancy. Many
mechanisms of interaction can be theorized. However, even if many are
ultimately proven to be false (such as the coherence requirement). It
doesn't mean there is no right one. Because how in the world then can
the chi be connected to the physical body. There is the unknown
mechanism of interaction and it is just waiting to be discovered
given enough research and experiments.

The following is Dr. Rein discussions about many possible mechanisms.
If you know the ones proven to be false. Pls. point them out. This was
written in 1992.

Dr. Rein wrote:

"NON-HERTZIAN QUANTUM FIELDS IN BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS

Although the biomedical community has not incorporated the
nonHertzian/ZPE concepts discussed above (see the message non_Hertzian
& Zero Point Energy for introduction - cinquirer), basic quantum
mechanical models are being introduced to explain the increasingly
apparent nonlinear behavior of biological systems. The results of
these observations show that biological systems follow the laws of
quantum mechanics. Therefore, biological systems should either contain
or be sensitive to non-Hertzian fields. Although this hypothesis has
not been proven, because quantum fields can not be measured,
increasing theoretical and experimental eviden ce supports this
conclusion.

Experimental evidence for the role of non-Hertzian quantum fields in
biological systems is based on the known significant and universal
role of cations and anions in physiological processes. The
bioelectromagnetic community already acknowledges that ions are
involved in the action of weak EM fields on biological systems (Adey,
1981), thereby forming a bridge between energy and matter. Ions within
the body can exist in the coherent domains within crystalline lattices
(Bednar, 1985). Liquid crystals in the ce ll membrane are a classical
example of piezoelectric lattices in the body. The role of ions has
also been suggested to mediate the interaction of ZPE with biological
systems (King, 1990). Since coherent oscillations of ions facilitate
the orthorotation of ZPE into our 4-D spacetime, similar oscillations
of ions in biological tissues may mediate orthorotation of ZPE into
biological systems.

Earlier in this book the non-linear interaction between ions (or
groups of ions) in dipoles was discussed. These interactions can also
be coherent. Coherence between calcium ions and proteins on the
surface of cell membranes has been used to explain how weak EM fields
affect cells (Lawrence, 1928). These coherent oscillations may also
explain how the body is sensitive to non-Hertzian waves and ZPE.
Therefore, in accordance with King's theory (King, 1990), such
coherence should result in a more efficient int eraction with the ZPE.
In certain situations it is believed that ions can travel through the
cell membrane in a helical manner (Liboff, 1986). If this helical
movement of ions is analogous to vortex rings described in plasmas,
then an enhanced ZPE interaction should occur. These helical movements
may be the biological equivalent to the ion acoustic modes of plasmas.

Other biological phenomenon may also be explained by the assumption
that non-Hertzian fields are present in the body and can influence
cellular functions. The whole concept of "mind" existing separately
from the brain and being capable of perceiving events beyond
space/time suggests a role for nonHertzian fields in the function, if
not the definition, of the mind. Due to the inherent difficulty in
studying the mind from a scientific perspective, most researchers have
looked for unusual properties of the bra in which might give insights
to the concept of a mind.

Holographic models of the brain (Psaltis, 1990), for example, are
quite intriguing because they imply a non-local connectedness between
all the individual components of the brain. In order for the brain to
function in a holographic manner, non-linear and/or coherent
interactions would have to occur. These could be between individual
neuronal networks or between the end of one nerve and the begining of
the next nerve (ie. pre and post synaptic neurons). Coherence in
biological systems has traditionally been explained in terms of long
range electromagnetic (EM) correlations between physically separated
oscillating electric dipoles. Dipole interactions could occur within a
single molecule or between molecules (Frohlich, 1988; Josephson,
1965).These results suggest that different brain regions, or different
components within the same brain region, communicate with each other
by EM fields. This is a rather novel idea considering the standard
dogma in neuroscience is that n erves communicate with each other via
neur otransmitters which jump accross the synapse (gap betweeen
neurons) and that brain regions are connected via nerves.

The EM hypothesis is supported by several research studies which have
demonstrated than EM fields similar to those naturally occurring
(endogenous) in the brain influence neurochemical and
neurophysiological events in the brain (Adey, 1981). The author has
previously reported the effects of pulsed magnetic fields on
noradrenaline release (Dixey, 1982) and uptake (Rein, 1987) using PC
12 nerve cells in culture. Endogenous EM fields in the brain are
believed to form a regulatory network which mediates electro chernical
events in the brain (Adey, 1981).

In addition to coherent EM interactions between dipoles, it is
possible to have quantum interactions between different parts of the
brain if each part is a superconductors. This anomalous type of
interaction is known as the Josephson effect (DelGiudice, 1989). It
has recently been discovered that certain biomolecules have properties
consistent with their acting like solid-state superconductors (Cope,
1975). Superconduction has been predicted and observed for enzymes
(Ahmed, 1978) and organic compounds like cholesterol (Goldfein, 1974).
Since cholesterol is relatively abundant in the cell membranes of
nerve cells, it has been proposed that superconductivity plays a role
in nerve function (Cope, 1975). Additional evidence is suggested by
the known ability of strong electric fields to induce
superconductivity in organic polymers, since such fields are generated
locally when nerves fire (Cope, 1974). Superconductivity in biological
systems can be considered an anomaly sinc e superconduction usually
occurs at very low temperatures, not at the relatively high
physiological temperatures.

The presence of superconductors in biological systems raises the
possibility that intercellular communication or intercellular
coherence might be mediated by communication between superconductors
via the Josepheson effect. In fact, Josephson effects have actually
been demonstrated in biological systems (Cope, 1975; DelGiudice,
1989). Using quantum field theory, it has been predicted that the
Josephson effect is mediated by quantum potential fields (Gelinas,
1984)

Quantum tunneling of electrons between two superconductors has been
offered as an explanation for the anomalous behavior of interacting
superconductors forming a Josephson junction (Solymar, 1972). An
energetic interaction between the pre and post synaptic neurons has
been postulated to be mediated via quantum tunneling (Burden, 1990).
In turn quantum tunneling can be mathematically described in terms of
quantum fields, at least in non biological systems (Bohm, 1975).
Non-Hertzian fields cause a shift in th e phase of current passing
through a Josephson junction (Gelinas, 1984)

DelGiudice has proposed that Josephson effects need not be limited to
communication between superconductors, but will apply to interactions
between separated coherent domains in biological systems (DelGiudice,
1989). Using quantum field theory, DelGiudice has modeled these
interactions and shown them to be "non-Maxwellian" in nature. He
further demonstrated that these quantum interactions could be
explained in terms of quantum fields (DelGiuidice, 1988). In support
of this hypothesis, DelGiudice (1989) used dielectrophoresis
measurements on yeast cells in suspension to show unusual
current-voltage relationships characteristic of those occurring in a
Jospheson junction. This nonlinear ohmic behavior was further
correlated with a physiological process, cell growth. The authors
conclude that physically separated cells, each acting as coherent
domains, exhibit phase-locked Josephson behavior and can communicate
via quantum coherent interactions.

Similar interactions are likely to occur between individual neurons
which display coherent interactions among the glycoproteins in their
plasma membranes (Adey, 1984). This new form of non-synaptic
intercellular communication between two neurons would be mediated by
endogenous quantum fields in the brain. DelGiuidice's hypothesis may
also be extended to interactions between brain regions since it has
recently been reported that coherency in the brain can be anatomically
localized to specific brain regions i n the hippocampal cortex
(Bullock, 1990). These more global interactions offer a new
explanation for brain coherence.

With respect to brain function information may be imparted to
endogenous quantum fields by specific frequency spectral patterns
associated with nerve firing. It is predicted that exogenous quantum
fields generated by a mobius antennae could modulate this frequency
information thereby altering global coherent interactions and/or local
interactions between neurons.

It is proposed here that non-Hertzian fields mediate the interaction
between superconductors in biological systems by interacting with the
quantum fields. These non-Hertzian fields may either be those
naturally occuring in the brain or those externally applied to the
brain. Non-Hertzian fields may therefore constitute of new energetic
regulatory system which modulates higher brain functions. These
non-Hertzian fields would be distinct from endogenous EM fields which
are well known to influence a variety of neurochemical and electrical
processes in the brain (Adey, 1981). It is further proposed that
quantal changes regulate the EM level which in turn mediate the
biochemical events associated with neural transmission."

-----------------------------------

About Dr. Rein:

Dr. Rein received his PhD in biochemistry from the University of
London, following extensive training in biochemical research at Boston
University and Harvard Medical School. He has lectured and taught at
Stanford Medical University and many other academic institutions, and
has made numerous public appearances elsewhere, to discuss his
research of the importance of electromagnetism and subtle energy in
biochemical processes. Dr. Rein has also been published in more than
20 journals. In addition, Dr. Rein ha s conducted many experiments
involving the healing process and has published extensively his
Crystal Reduction theory - the unifying principle behind the healing
process. He is also a standing member of the ELF Laboratories
scientific team.

cinquirer wrote:
(...crap...)
In addition to coherent EM interactions between dipoles, it is
possible to have quantum interactions between different parts of the
brain if each part is a superconductors. This anomalous type of
interaction is known as the Josephson effect (DelGiudice, 1989). It
has recently been discovered that certain biomolecules have properties
consistent with their acting like solid-state superconductors (Cope,
1975). Superconduction has been predicted and observed for enzymes
(Ahmed, 1978) and organic compounds like cholesterol (Goldfein, 1974).
Since cholesterol is relatively abundant in the cell membranes of
nerve cells, it has been proposed that superconductivity plays a role
in nerve function (Cope, 1975). Additional evidence is suggested by
the known ability of strong electric fields to induce
superconductivity in organic polymers, since such fields are generated
locally when nerves fire (Cope, 1974). Superconductivity in biological
systems can be considered an anomaly sinc e superconduction usually
occurs at very low temperatures, not at the relatively high
physiological temperatures.


Freeman Cope, another MD who thought he understood physics wrote many
articles about superconductivity in the 70's and published them.
Actually, there seem to have been a number of papers published
along these lines in the 70's. Most involved the supposed observation
of Josephson effects in living systems.

Unfortunately, these effects were never confirmed and to date the
highest temperature superconductor is 139K
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/MichaelNg.shtml

I think this particular topic causes confusion for some
(including, probably, "Dr" Rein), in that the Josephson
effect (i.e. SQUID's) are heavily exploited to *study*
biological systems.

The presence of superconductors in biological systems raises the
possibility that intercellular communication or intercellular
coherence might be mediated by communication between superconductors
via the Josepheson effect. In fact, Josephson effects have actually
been demonstrated in biological systems (Cope, 1975; DelGiudice,
1989).
Using quantum field theory, it has been predicted that the
Josephson effect is mediated by quantum potential fields (Gelinas,
1984)


This remark is non-sequitur. The Josephson effect was explained
by, well, Josephson - for which he won the Nobel Prize.

Quantum tunneling of electrons between two superconductors has been
offered as an explanation for the anomalous behavior of interacting
superconductors forming a Josephson junction (Solymar, 1972).
An
energetic interaction between the pre and post synaptic neurons has
been postulated to be mediated via quantum tunneling (Burden, 1990).
In turn quantum tunneling can be mathematically described in terms of
quantum fields, at least in non biological systems (Bohm, 1975).
Non-Hertzian fields cause a shift in th e phase of current passing
through a Josephson junction (Gelinas, 1984)

DelGiudice has proposed that Josephson effects need not be limited to
communication between superconductors, but will apply to interactions
between separated coherent domains in biological systems (DelGiudice,
1989). Using quantum field theory, DelGiudice has modeled these
interactions and shown them to be "non-Maxwellian" in nature. He

Oh boy! "non-Maxwellian". Here we go...

further demonstrated that these quantum interactions could be
explained in terms of quantum fields (DelGiuidice, 1988). In support
of this hypothesis, DelGiudice (1989) used dielectrophoresis
measurements on yeast cells in suspension to show unusual
current-voltage relationships characteristic of those occurring in a
Jospheson junction. This nonlinear ohmic behavior was further
correlated with a physiological process, cell growth. The authors
conclude that physically separated cells, each acting as coherent
domains, exhibit phase-locked Josephson behavior and can communicate
via quantum coherent interactions.

Similar interactions are likely to occur between individual neurons
which display coherent interactions among the glycoproteins in their
plasma membranes (Adey, 1984). This new form of non-synaptic
intercellular communication between two neurons would be mediated by
endogenous quantum fields in the brain. DelGiuidice's hypothesis may
also be extended to interactions between brain regions since it has
recently been reported that coherency in the brain can be anatomically
localized to specific brain regions i n the hippocampal cortex
(Bullock, 1990). These more global interactions offer a new
explanation for brain coherence.

With respect to brain function information may be imparted to
endogenous quantum fields by specific frequency spectral patterns
associated with nerve firing. It is predicted that exogenous quantum
fields generated by a mobius antennae could modulate this frequency
information thereby altering global coherent interactions and/or local
interactions between neurons.

It is proposed here that non-Hertzian fields mediate the interaction
between superconductors in biological systems by interacting with the
quantum fields.

OK, please define the difference between "non-Hertzian" and
"non-Maxwellian".

While we're at it, the EM field ("non-Hertzian" or otherwise)
doesn't "interact with the quantum field"; it *is* a quantum
field. Just more evidence that the author is just stringing
together words he doesn't understand.

These non-Hertzian fields may either be those
naturally occuring in the brain or those externally applied to the
brain. Non-Hertzian fields may therefore constitute of new energetic
regulatory system which modulates higher brain functions. These
non-Hertzian fields would be distinct from endogenous EM fields which
are well known to influence a variety of neurochemical and electrical
processes in the brain (Adey, 1981). It is further proposed that
quantal changes regulate the EM level which in turn mediate the
biochemical events associated with neural transmission."

-----------------------------------

About Dr. Rein:

Dr. Rein received his PhD in biochemistry from the University of
London, following extensive training in biochemical research at Boston
University and Harvard Medical School. He has lectured and taught at
Stanford Medical University and many other academic institutions, and
has made numerous public appearances elsewhere, to discuss his
research of the importance of electromagnetism and subtle energy in
biochemical processes. Dr. Rein has also been published in more than
20 journals. In addition, Dr. Rein ha s conducted many experiments
involving the healing process and has published extensively his
Crystal Reduction theory - the unifying principle behind the healing
process. He is also a standing member of the ELF Laboratories

And he learned about superconductivity and quantum mechanics...
where, exactly?

Jeez, why do I bother.

-Eric

Omitting all the tons of jargons by different people (such as
"Scalar", "non_Hertzian", "Super Quantum", etc.), the following is
observation and direct experience about chi and it is the only thing
that is certain.

Organic form needs chi, inorganic form doesn't require chi.
Crystalline structure (especially organic) has intense chi that is
dynamic and interacting, while normal matter has fixed chi.
This means there is something in the crystalline structure in
organic matter that can act as some kind of gateway or interface
to the higher structure of consciousness.

So where is the higher structure of consciousness located.
For now. Let's define the location of it as the Aether (for lack
of a better term). Therefore the crystalline structure can
draw energy direct from the Aether in the form of chi. That
is, where there is chi, there is conscious interaction with
the Aether. This is the most obvious example of drawing
"energy" from vacuum. Chi is some kind of energy and it
is drawn from the vacuum (or Aether) thru interaction with
crystalline structure. Now I don't know if certain crystalline
structure and electromagnetic combination can draw more
energy enough to produce electricity (this is the basis of
free energy).

Another thing. Rein was impressed with healers that can
heal many ailments, so he went to investigate what could
be causing the cells to get well like maybe there some kind of
information exchange that comes from the healer to the
healee. But in my personal experience. It's all a matter of
the organic structure needing energy. Many people have
ailments because the bioplasmic structure of their body parts
have blockages that prevent normal flow of chi. So what
we do is simply remove the blockages or dirty bioplasmic
matter by flicking it to a basin of salt water, add fresh
energy to the parts treated and the flow of energy would
get normal and there would be instant physical relief. It's
all as simple as this. Now Rein may think the patient
gets instant relief because somehow the healer can directly
cause the cells to get well by some super quantum non_
hertzian scalar wave effects. This is just making a very
complicated explanation to a simple situation. Some of
our healers who are more dexterous can control chi
by thought alone so they can like cause the bioplasmic
body or chi superhighway of the patient to get balanced
by simply willing it. For others, they have to use
the hand to acquire and flick the dirty bioplasmic energy
of the patient to the basin of water. There are different qualities
to chi by the way, chi has different vibration, the middle or
"green" vibration can easily dissolve dirty bioplasmic energy
for faster cleaning. In pranic healing classes, the students have
to learn to emit different vibration of chi from the hand
monitored by clairvoyants (or those with Aetheric Senses
fully functioning) in order to be adept at treating
bioplasmic matter. One can produce very high intensity
chi energy which can produce effects on intruments as
done by the china experiments shared by Yuan.

So in summary. Balancing the chi superhighway or
bioplasmic body of the patients is enough to let them
get relief from physical pain, etc. So the only function
of chi in the body may be to energize it as well as
function as conduit to the Aether (for lack of a better
term) where consciousness resides. The normal
cellular and genetic pathway is enough to maintain
the structure of the physical body itself.

Now Bearden, Rein is saying that non_hertzian
field is also involved in the maintanance of the body
functions and healing. I don't know if it is true. In my
opinion. The body has enough cellular mechanism to
maintain the physical body and the chi energy is simply
there to charge the crystalline scructure which is conduit
to the Aether where consciousness resides.

However, if non_hertzian field or whatever it is, is also
involved in the body function and healing. Then manipulation
of it can surely bring beneficial or disastrous results. So
unbias, new scientific discipline and research must investigate
the latter in the name of humanity and progress.

c.


Eric Prebys wrote in message ...
cinquirer wrote:
(...crap...)
In addition to coherent EM interactions between dipoles, it is
possible to have quantum interactions between different parts of the
brain if each part is a superconductors. This anomalous type of
interaction is known as the Josephson effect (DelGiudice, 1989). It
has recently been discovered that certain biomolecules have properties
consistent with their acting like solid-state superconductors (Cope,
1975). Superconduction has been predicted and observed for enzymes
(Ahmed, 1978) and organic compounds like cholesterol (Goldfein, 1974).
Since cholesterol is relatively abundant in the cell membranes of
nerve cells, it has been proposed that superconductivity plays a role
in nerve function (Cope, 1975). Additional evidence is suggested by
the known ability of strong electric fields to induce
superconductivity in organic polymers, since such fields are generated
locally when nerves fire (Cope, 1974). Superconductivity in biological
systems can be considered an anomaly sinc e superconduction usually
occurs at very low temperatures, not at the relatively high
physiological temperatures.


Freeman Cope, another MD who thought he understood physics wrote many
articles about superconductivity in the 70's and published them.
Actually, there seem to have been a number of papers published
along these lines in the 70's. Most involved the supposed observation
of Josephson effects in living systems.

Unfortunately, these effects were never confirmed and to date the
highest temperature superconductor is 139K
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/MichaelNg.shtml

I think this particular topic causes confusion for some
(including, probably, "Dr" Rein), in that the Josephson
effect (i.e. SQUID's) are heavily exploited to *study*
biological systems.

The presence of superconductors in biological systems raises the
possibility that intercellular communication or intercellular
coherence might be mediated by communication between superconductors
via the Josepheson effect. In fact, Josephson effects have actually
been demonstrated in biological systems (Cope, 1975; DelGiudice,
1989).
Using quantum field theory, it has been predicted that the
Josephson effect is mediated by quantum potential fields (Gelinas,
1984)


This remark is non-sequitur. The Josephson effect was explained
by, well, Josephson - for which he won the Nobel Prize.

Quantum tunneling of electrons between two superconductors has been
offered as an explanation for the anomalous behavior of interacting
superconductors forming a Josephson junction (Solymar, 1972).
An
energetic interaction between the pre and post synaptic neurons has
been postulated to be mediated via quantum tunneling (Burden, 1990).
In turn quantum tunneling can be mathematically described in terms of
quantum fields, at least in non biological systems (Bohm, 1975).
Non-Hertzian fields cause a shift in th e phase of current passing
through a Josephson junction (Gelinas, 1984)

DelGiudice has proposed that Josephson effects need not be limited to
communication between superconductors, but will apply to interactions
between separated coherent domains in biological systems (DelGiudice,
1989). Using quantum field theory, DelGiudice has modeled these
interactions and shown them to be "non-Maxwellian" in nature. He

Oh boy! "non-Maxwellian". Here we go...

further demonstrated that these quantum interactions could be
explained in terms of quantum fields (DelGiuidice, 1988). In support
of this hypothesis, DelGiudice (1989) used dielectrophoresis
measurements on yeast cells in suspension to show unusual
current-voltage relationships characteristic of those occurring in a
Jospheson junction. This nonlinear ohmic behavior was further
correlated with a physiological process, cell growth. The authors
conclude that physically separated cells, each acting as coherent
domains, exhibit phase-locked Josephson behavior and can communicate
via quantum coherent interactions.

Similar interactions are likely to occur between individual neurons
which display coherent interactions among the glycoproteins in their
plasma membranes (Adey, 1984). This new form of non-synaptic
intercellular communication between two neurons would be mediated by
endogenous quantum fields in the brain. DelGiuidice's hypothesis may
also be extended to interactions between brain regions since it has
recently been reported that coherency in the brain can be anatomically
localized to specific brain regions i n the hippocampal cortex
(Bullock, 1990). These more global interactions offer a new
explanation for brain coherence.

With respect to brain function information may be imparted to
endogenous quantum fields by specific frequency spectral patterns
associated with nerve firing. It is predicted that exogenous quantum
fields generated by a mobius antennae could modulate this frequency
information thereby altering global coherent interactions and/or local
interactions between neurons.

It is proposed here that non-Hertzian fields mediate the interaction
between superconductors in biological systems by interacting with the
quantum fields.

OK, please define the difference between "non-Hertzian" and
"non-Maxwellian".

While we're at it, the EM field ("non-Hertzian" or otherwise)
doesn't "interact with the quantum field"; it *is* a quantum
field. Just more evidence that the author is just stringing
together words he doesn't understand.

These non-Hertzian fields may either be those
naturally occuring in the brain or those externally applied to the
brain. Non-Hertzian fields may therefore constitute of new energetic
regulatory system which modulates higher brain functions. These
non-Hertzian fields would be distinct from endogenous EM fields which
are well known to influence a variety of neurochemical and electrical
processes in the brain (Adey, 1981). It is further proposed that
quantal changes regulate the EM level which in turn mediate the
biochemical events associated with neural transmission."

-----------------------------------

About Dr. Rein:

Dr. Rein received his PhD in biochemistry from the University of
London, following extensive training in biochemical research at Boston
University and Harvard Medical School. He has lectured and taught at
Stanford Medical University and many other academic institutions, and
has made numerous public appearances elsewhere, to discuss his
research of the importance of electromagnetism and subtle energy in
biochemical processes. Dr. Rein has also been published in more than
20 journals. In addition, Dr. Rein ha s conducted many experiments
involving the healing process and has published extensively his
Crystal Reduction theory - the unifying principle behind the healing
process. He is also a standing member of the ELF Laboratories

And he learned about superconductivity and quantum mechanics...
where, exactly?

Jeez, why do I bother.

-Eric