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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote: [Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer] you have shown no connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove. [Hammond] Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and you haven't answered it: [Hammond] You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which would explain it. In this case this means itimizing the CENTRAL CLAIMS of Religion (take Biblical religion for instance) and seeing if the discovered mechanism (curvature of subjective spacetime) COMPELLINGLY AND QUANTITATIVELY EXPLAINS EACH AND EVERY ITEM. The SPOG scientifically and quantitatively explains the following 16 (central and comprehensive) items which characterize Religion: 1. Why there physically exists an "invisible world" known as "Heaven" which is similar to Earth but is a paradise. (Because the Growth Deficit reduces mental speed and thus reduces the Fourier cutoff frequency of visual movement) This can be easily measured directly by theMotion Picture Fusion Frequency, which increases directly with gross brain growth) 2. Why God is an "invisible man" who lives there and is all powerful and rules the actual (visible) world from there. ("God" is the perfect fully grown man, hence the part of us that is latent, or ungrown, is called the "invisible God", also the "Unconscious mind") 3. Why this God can effect miracles which transcend the (known) laws of Physics. (Because, a change in Repression causes a dramatic change in Curvature of subjective spacetime suddenly making more of reality visible). 4. Why Jesus said "God is a spirit" Jn 4:24 (This is confirmed by the SPOG which shows that "God" is the unconscious mind, which is a "spirit") 5. Why historically Religion has evolved from Polytheism to Monotheism. (The SPOG proves that there are 4 orders of eigenvectors, which is a "hierarchy of gods". the entire history of Religion is accounted for as a successive discovery of the orders from 1st=(demigods), 2nd=(Olympian gods), 3rd= (4-Gospel Saints), 4th=(God of Monotheism) 6. Why Christianity says the world is transforming itself into Heaven and will actually complete this at a date known as "Kingdom Come"... or the "end of the world". (Because the Secular Trend curve in Human Growth is a Sigmoidal Logistics curve (S-curve) and the final plateau is 100% growth of the individual, or "Kingdom Come") 7. Why there is such a thing as "Eternal Life". (Because full growth means flat subjective spacetime.. no time dilation.. aka eternal time) 8. Why it is believed that Jesus was the physical "incarnation of God" (Because, nominally Jesus was a "fully grown specimen". Of course we know this wasn't actually possible, but in fact he must have been an impressive specimen to conduct such a startling public ministry.) 9. Why the Cross for some reason is the central symbol of (Western) Religion. (Because the human body is an "axial quadrature" and the brain actually "cubic" causing a cross structure (Cartesian structure) of Personality) 10. Why for some reason our main canonical text is written in 4 identical versions known as the "4-Gospel Canon". (Because the Structural Model is CUBIC, represented as a square; 4 Gospel Canon represents the 4 canonical personalities of Man... cf. the Bicameral/2 Party system) 11. How God "created the world" only a matter of "thousands" of years ago (Genesis) not "billions" of years ago (Big Bang) as Science believes. (Because subjective spacetime only came into being when Man came into being 200,000 years ago, causing the Biblical Creation). 12. Why God created man "in his own image". (Because God is the invisible (fully grown) version of Man). 13. Why there is a "Trinity of God" and what it is, functionally or scientifically speaking. (the Trinity is simply the cybernetic feedback loop (input, output, feedback) describing the operation of the Father (invisible man), Son actual Man, and feedback (UNCS mind) that transforms the latter into the former). 14. Why there are (approximately) 13 gods in the Egypto-Greco-Roman pantheon. (Because the 2nd orders are caused by the 13 symmetry axes of the cubic str. of the brain). 15. Why there are exactly 4-gospel Saints named Matthew, mark, Luke, John. (Because the Cubic str. of Personality can be represented by a section through the Cube, yielding the 4 canonical personalities of Man) 16. Why there are 30 odd "lesser demigods" in Hinduism. (Because there are 30 1st-order eigenvectors caused by myriad lower level brain structures; not geometrically intercorrelated) THIS OVERWHELMING, COMPREHENSIVE EXPLANATION OF THE ENTIRE BODY OF CLASSICAL RELIGION, BY A SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC CURVATURE MECHANISM, IS PRIMA FACIE THE WORLD'S FIRST AND ONLY BONA FIDE "SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD". Now you can sit there and giggle like a flat footed fat ass academy boy all you want, but it certainly is NOT convincing. either show us some of your scintillating PhD forensic scientist genius a la ronald Reagan, or go back to work designing Widgets at Quintessential Trinkets where you belong. snip argumentative no content crap ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote: [Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer] you have shown no connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove. [Hammond] Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and you haven't answered it: [Hammond] You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which would explain it. In this case this means itimizing the CENTRAL CLAIMS of Religion (take Biblical religion for instance) and seeing if the discovered mechanism (curvature of subjective spacetime) COMPELLINGLY AND QUANTITATIVELY EXPLAINS EACH AND EVERY ITEM. No, you started off with a conclusion and then tried to contort the facts to match them. It does not work but you still persist. The SPOG scientifically and quantitatively explains the following 16 (central and comprehensive) items which characterize Religion: 1. Why there physically exists an "invisible world" known as "Heaven" which is similar to Earth but is a paradise. (Because the Growth Deficit reduces mental speed and thus reduces the Fourier cutoff frequency of visual movement) This can be easily measured directly by theMotion Picture Fusion Frequency, which increases directly with gross brain growth) This is meaningless work salad. Wrong and silly. 2. Why God is an "invisible man" who lives there and is all powerful and rules the actual (visible) world from there. ("God" is the perfect fully grown man, hence the part of us that is latent, or ungrown, is called the "invisible God", also the "Unconscious mind") Unsupported hopeful assertion backed by nothing. 3. Why this God can effect miracles which transcend the (known) laws of Physics. (Because, a change in Repression causes a dramatic change in Curvature of subjective spacetime suddenly making more of reality visible). You define him as someone who can do anything and then draw the conclusion that he can do anything. 4. Why Jesus said "God is a spirit" Jn 4:24 (This is confirmed by the SPOG which shows that "God" is the unconscious mind, which is a "spirit") There is no support for this statement. 5. Why historically Religion has evolved from Polytheism to Monotheism. (The SPOG proves that there are 4 orders of eigenvectors, which is a "hierarchy of gods". the entire history of Religion is accounted for as a successive discovery of the orders from 1st=(demigods), 2nd=(Olympian gods), 3rd= (4-Gospel Saints), 4th=(God of Monotheism) Christianity moved to one god but Hinduism and others have not so this is wrong also. 6. Why Christianity says the world is transforming itself into Heaven and will actually complete this at a date known as "Kingdom Come"... or the "end of the world". (Because the Secular Trend curve in Human Growth is a Sigmoidal Logistics curve (S-curve) and the final plateau is 100% growth of the individual, or "Kingdom Come") This is even more bizarre than the rest. 7. Why there is such a thing as "Eternal Life". (Because full growth means flat subjective spacetime.. no time dilation.. aka eternal time) There is no content to comment on. 8. Why it is believed that Jesus was the physical "incarnation of God" (Because, nominally Jesus was a "fully grown specimen". Of course we know this wasn't actually possible, but in fact he must have been an impressive specimen to conduct such a startling public ministry.) This is the claim because otherwise he would not have seemed important. 9. Why the Cross for some reason is the central symbol of (Western) Religion. (Because the human body is an "axial quadrature" and the brain actually "cubic" causing a cross structure (Cartesian structure) of Personality) So the Romans chose a christian symbol to crucify people on? It was chosen for convenience. 10. Why for some reason our main canonical text is written in 4 identical versions known as the "4-Gospel Canon". (Because the Structural Model is CUBIC, represented as a square; 4 Gospel Canon represents the 4 canonical personalities of Man... cf. the Bicameral/2 Party system) The four versions of the new testament are not identical. They are in fact completely contradictory in some areas. 11. How God "created the world" only a matter of "thousands" of years ago (Genesis) not "billions" of years ago (Big Bang) as Science believes. (Because subjective spacetime only came into being when Man came into being 200,000 years ago, causing the Biblical Creation). This has been shown to be untrue by science. You do not want to believe it but that does not change the facts. 12. Why God created man "in his own image". (Because God is the invisible (fully grown) version of Man). You got that backwards, man created god in his own image. 13. Why there is a "Trinity of God" and what it is, functionally or scientifically speaking. (the Trinity is simply the cybernetic feedback loop (input, output, feedback) describing the operation of the Father (invisible man), Son actual Man, and feedback (UNCS mind) that transforms the latter into the former). This silliness is even worse than that above. 14. Why there are (approximately) 13 gods in the Egypto-Greco-Roman pantheon. (Because the 2nd orders are caused by the 13 symmetry axes of the cubic str. of the brain). This is where you claim again that 12=13 to 3 significant figures. 15. Why there are exactly 4-gospel Saints named Matthew, mark, Luke, John. (Because the Cubic str. of Personality can be represented by a section through the Cube, yielding the 4 canonical personalities of Man) The council of Nicea chose the books to unify the various christian sects. There were several main sects and this is why Revelation, which has no part in the bible since it is just a forecast of Rome's destruction is in there. 16. Why there are 30 odd "lesser demigods" in Hinduism. (Because there are 30 1st-order eigenvectors caused by myriad lower level brain structures; not geometrically intercorrelated) You forgot the other millions. You are also ignoring the various earth gods and other traditional gods. THIS OVERWHELMING, COMPREHENSIVE EXPLANATION OF THE ENTIRE BODY OF CLASSICAL RELIGION, BY A SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC CURVATURE MECHANISM, IS PRIMA FACIE THE WORLD'S FIRST AND ONLY BONA FIDE "SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD". No, it is just babble that no one takes seriously. Now you can sit there and giggle like a flat footed fat ass academy boy all you want, but it certainly is NOT convincing. And your nonsense is? either show us some of your scintillating PhD forensic scientist genius a la ronald Reagan, or go back to work designing Widgets at Quintessential Trinkets where you belong. Remind us again where you work? snip argumentative no content crap ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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George Hammond writes:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector'). Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it. Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An eigenvector is an eigenvector. The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the brain. They form a CUBE. Yup. Add 'eigenvector' to the growing list of redefined words. 7.7% "pretty good for ancient science". Let's imagine, just for a moment, that the ancient Greeks built the Parthenon with some of the Doric columns 12 meters tall and others 13 meters tall. The 12m and 13m columns all mixed up. That would be "pretty good for ancient science", right? Only 7.7% off, right? Wrong - if they ever did that, the Parthenon would look pathetic. Instead of the ancient Greeks being revered by western society, they'd be the laughing stock of the ancient world! I'm laughing just thinking about it! Cut the **** Moroney, measureing something with a ruler like the Parthenon is kid stuff. And counting as far as 13 is even more kid stuff. My kid could count past 13 when she was just 2. Fact is Eratosthenes estimated the Earth's circumference around 240 BCE. The Sun was directly overhead in Syene at the summer solstice but in Alexandria it still cast a shadow. Using the distance and angles he estimated the Earth's circumference. Eratosthenes' figure has an error of around five to ten percent. So "7.7%" was par for the course in advanced scientific measurement in ancient Greece. We're not talking about measuring angles of sunlight, time or distance (all of which would be necessary to do what Eratosthenes did) or even just distance (enough to get the columns of the Parthenon to the same height), we're talking about _counting gods_! The fact that they could estimate "God" to 7.7% is a phenomenal scientific achievement by comparison! Counting to 13 is *not* a phenomenal scientific achievement! It's something that some two-year-olds can do! So you'll have to find some other trivia to rag on, I've beaten your "12 vs. 13" objection to death. You're the one who makes it a big deal about your claim that there are "EXACTLY 13 2nd order Eigenvectors". Well guess what. 12 is NOT "exactly 13". Like I said, the Greeks were 7.7% off, same as their measuremet of the Earth's circumference. We're not talking about 'measuring' anything (and even so they could measure Parthenon columns to much better than 7.7% error), we're talking about simple counting. BTW, 12 and 13 are not within 3 significant figures of each other. (do you even know what that means?) Try 1 sig fig. I've got 2 degrees in Physics from accredited universities in Massachusetts, that certifies that I KNOW what it means. Maybe, just maybe, you knew the definition once, but it appears you no longer do. If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and why? 12 13 0.000876 1.000876 120 120. 469.230 Let's hear your "definition" of significant figure. I'll add it to the ever-growing List of Words Redefined by George Hammond. "Exist" "Prove"/"Proof" "Peer-reviewed" "Eigenvector" (kewl sounding word that makes my 'proof' sound scientific) "Twelve" (a number considered unlucky by many) "Thirteen" (number of eggs in an egg carton) "Thirty" (number of dollars you need to be considered a multimillionaire) Modern Science has proved that there are 13-2nd order Another one. "Modern Science" = "Hammond's imagination" Of course, perhaps words like "are" "that" "has" etc. should be on the list and their redefinitions completely change the meaning of what you write to something completely different. |
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George Hammond writes:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:06:43 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: George Hammond writes: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector'). Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it. Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An eigenvector is an eigenvector. The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the brain. They form a CUBE. Yup. Add 'eigenvector' to the growing list of redefined words. My definition of an eigenvector is SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT, And we add to the redefined word list: "SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT" : George Hammond hallucinated it so it must be true. and the "Pagan gods" are 2nd order EIGENVECTORS as so "EIGENVECTOR" : Only God and George Hammond know about that, and I'm not so sure about God. defined in Personality Psychometry "Personality Psychometry" : Possibly what George suffers from and experimentally measureable to 3 SIGNIFICANT FIGURES 3 SIGNIFICANT FIGURES : One or maybe two significant figures. and have been so measured and peer published Peer published : Posted on a vanity press website. for 30 years. I guess this yet another definition for "thirty". If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and why? 12 [GH] 2 significant figures 13 [GH] 2 significant figures 0.000876 [GH] 3 significant figures 1.000876 [GH] 7 significant figures 120 [GH] 2 significant figures 120. [GH] 2 significant figures 469.230 [GH] 5 significant figures [GH] Why? Because I've got 2 significant college degrees in Physics from accredited Universities in Massachusetts. Congratulations. Only two wrong. 71%, a D. I guess if you did better in your other courses you won't flunk out. Now please explain how 12=13 to 3 sig figs. (this ought to be good!) Now get the f--- outta here atheistic moron; get off this thread and stay off it, this is not a juvenile discussion for mentally retarded loudmouths lijke you. Silence, imbecile. Show more respect to your superiors or else the asylum will revoke your computer privileges. |
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"George Hammond" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote: [Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer] you have shown no connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove. [Hammond] Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and you haven't answered it: [Hammond] You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which would explain it. You forgot onoe important step ... (as is usual for ignorant assholes like you) - what is inivestigated must have a basis in REALITY! Religious beliefs do NOT! Only those things that exist in reality have supportive FACTS and EVIDENCE. Your S.P.O.Crap has produced none of either. You cannot start out with (your) crap ........ add your own psychotically delusional, UN-scientific bellows ... and then come up with ANYTHING that has any relationship to science, reality or sanity! You're nothing more than a psychotic asshole! |
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John Smith wrote:
"George Hammond" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote: [Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer] you have shown no connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove. [Hammond] Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and you haven't answered it: [Hammond] You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which would explain it. You forgot onoe important step ... (as is usual for ignorant assholes like you) - what is inivestigated must have a basis in REALITY! Religious beliefs do NOT! Only those things that exist in reality have supportive FACTS and EVIDENCE. Your S.P.O.Crap has produced none of either. You cannot start out with (your) crap ........ add your own psychotically delusional, UN-scientific bellows ... and then come up with ANYTHING that has any relationship to science, reality or sanity! You're nothing more than a psychotic asshole! He wants it to be true. He has nothing else to offer so he hopes he gets glory by doing something that is obviously wrong and then hoping that no one notices. None of the steps in his "proof" is connected to any facet of reality. He takes a few random phrases that have some truth in them and then puts in conclusions that are totally bogus and expects people to tell him how great he is. He does not like it that I have a PhD and he does not so he attacks that rather than try to defend his nonsense. Should we pity him or be mad at him? I would go for pity because he is making himself unhappy. |
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:15:38 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote: If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and why? 12 [GH] 2 significant figures 13 [GH] 2 significant figures 0.000876 [GH] 3 significant figures 1.000876 [GH] 7 significant figures 120 [GH] 2 significant figures 120. [GH] 2 significant figures 469.230 [GH] 5 significant figures [GH] Why? Because I've got 2 significant college degrees in Physics from accredited Universities in Massachusetts. [Michael Moroney] Congratulations. Only two wrong. 71%, a D. I guess if you did better in your other courses you won't flunk out. [Hammond] Bull****....all 7 of my answers are CORRECT. 100%="A+". You're the moron who doesn't know what a "significant figure" is? Get the f--- outta here. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:48:43 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote: "George Hammond" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote: [Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimant] you have shown no connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove. [Hammond] My answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and you haven't answered it: [Hammond] You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which would explain it. [John Smith] You forgot one important step ... (as is usual for ignorant assholes like you) - what is inivestigated must have a basis in REALITY! Religious beliefs do NOT! [Hammond] WRONG no "basis in reality" need be assumed to investigate any claimed phenomenon. For instance, the claim that the Moon is made of green cheese has no basis in reality, but it can be scientifcally investigated by going to the Moon and taking a close look under a microscope, which has been done; with a negative result. Thus the claimed phenomenon is disproved. On the other hand, in the case of the "claimed phenomenon of God" as described in the King James Bible, Hammond HAS DISCOVERED AND PROVEN that there is a simple comprehensive scientific mechanism which, explains and PROVES that all the claims made in the KJ are SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT. You're an aggravated anti-religious jerk who doesn't know what the f--- he's talking about. I'm an aggravated jerk, but at least I know better than to be antireligious, moron. ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:15:38 +0000 (UTC), (Michael Moroney) wrote: If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and why? 12 [GH] 2 significant figures 13 [GH] 2 significant figures 0.000876 [GH] 3 significant figures 1.000876 [GH] 7 significant figures 120 [GH] 2 significant figures 120. [GH] 2 significant figures 469.230 [GH] 5 significant figures [GH] Why? Because I've got 2 significant college degrees in Physics from accredited Universities in Massachusetts. [Michael Moroney] Congratulations. Only two wrong. 71%, a D. I guess if you did better in your other courses you won't flunk out. [Hammond] Bull****....all 7 of my answers are CORRECT. 100%="A+". You're the moron who doesn't know what a "significant figure" is? Get the f--- outta here. They must give out easy degrees where you went to school since you are wrong here too. Or is this why you failed out of graduate school? ===================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== |
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