On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:42:27 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


[Hammond]
FYI, the leadership of the world (which you don't belong
to) have known for thousands of years that poorly developed
people cannot "see" reality as well as highly developed
people, which is WHY highly developed people are in
leadership positions in the first place.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Therefore blind people are poorly developed?



[Hammond]
Cut the **** heckler, dwarfs, midgets, giants, amputees,
lobotomies and blind people are NOT the result of the
Secular Trend Growth Deficit which is UNIVERSAL in the human
race. Quit posting amateur trivia trolling harrassment.
Amateurs have spent years doing this to no avail, you're
just the latest punk heckler to come down the pike!


[Hammond]
Today, the scientific explanation, measurement and PROOF
of this has been found, and it is most directly demonstrated
by the variation of PFF vs. growth.
You're supposed to be a PhD physicist, then surely you
know what a FOURIER FREQUENCY SPECTRUM is, and if so you
should realize that the PFF is a direct measure of the
FOURIER JSPECTRUM CUTOFF FREQUENCY of the Fourier
Transformed spectrum of VISUAL MOVEMENT in the human visual
field. If that cutoff frequency (PFF) is 50% less for one
person compared to another person, then that person sees
HALF THE MOTION of reality that the other person sees.



[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
This is not true. When you do the fourier transform of the
view of the real world, you get a spectrum of the motion.
With varying cutoff frequencies in this domain, the retransformed
image can be seen to have been affected.


[Hammond]
We're not talking about filtering out high frequencies
that nobody can see anyway, we're tallking about filtering
out 20% or more of the high frequencies they CAN see, in
THAT case the difference is very noticible, MAINLY the
difference in peoples' facial expression and personality
identity... these change drastically. An automoble driving
down the road doesn't look any different, but personality
"identity" is drastically changed if you cut mental
speed...,. this is why it easy to deceive a child... he has
only half the mental speed you have, your true identity is
INVISLBE to him.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
However, the
amount of high frequency spectral content in the transform
for our normal world situations is very low. This is why
mpeg video compression works well. Most changes in our
views happen slowly. Thus someone who sees things 50%
slower may still see 99% of the scene contents or more.


[Hammond]
WRONG physics flunky. mpeg compression is NOT THE SAME
as a LO PASS FILTER. mpeg compression is virtually
lossless, and is effected by very sophisticated pixel
velocity prediction algorythms which are used to predict and
then reconstuct redundant motion and eliminate repetiitive
pixel transmission. There is NO COMPARISON between high
frequency filtering and video compression. Filtering is a
DIRECT LOSS of information, modern compression is vitually
lossless!


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
The picture of a rock on the ground is the same for
everyone.

[Hammond]
Even that isn't true. Almost every solid object in nature
shows telltale signs of motion, including wear on rocks,
wind and water erosion and movement, the wind swept profile
of trees etc.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
The fusion frequency has developed through evolution to be
adequate for our world. Attaching any further significance
to it is pure speculation.


[Hammond]
You're full of it too. The Growth Deficit has nothing to
do with "Evolution" and it knocks 20% off the PFF for every
adult in the population, some far more than 20%, you don't
know what the hell you're talking about, and could care
less, and I could care less about you amateur opinions.


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God, you people are sure nasty to each other. It's a real turn off,
Hammond.

Oh - by the way- the Universe and God are identical.

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:42:27 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


[Hammond]
FYI, the leadership of the world (which you don't belong
to) have known for thousands of years that poorly developed
people cannot "see" reality as well as highly developed
people, which is WHY highly developed people are in
leadership positions in the first place.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Therefore blind people are poorly developed?



[Hammond]
Cut the **** heckler, dwarfs, midgets, giants, amputees,
lobotomies and blind people are NOT the result of the
Secular Trend Growth Deficit which is UNIVERSAL in the human
race. Quit posting amateur trivia trolling harrassment.
Amateurs have spent years doing this to no avail, you're
just the latest punk heckler to come down the pike!

Couldn't answer the question ......huh?

[Hammond]
Horse****..... the linear variation of the PFF with
childhood growth, just like IQ, has been common knowlege
known and documented for 75 years.
[Doug, alleged physicist, SPOG critic]
So? It still has nothing to do with a god.


[Hammond]
Stop playing dumb. Obviously the PFF is the Fourier
Cutoff frequency of the human detection of visual motion,
and it WELL KNOWN to vary linearly with Human Growth.
So what?

Ergo, since the Secular Trend in Human Growth shows that
the average person only reaches about 80% of full growth;
20% of REALITY is INVISIBLE to the average person!
No, this is not true. What is true that the rate of motion
where a person starts seeing blurring is a variable with
different people and ages.

Clearly this constitutes an INVISBLE WORLD which is
exactly what Religion has been claiming for thousands of
years.]

This is a completely unsupported assumption. There is no
evidence at all for this other than your fantasy. End
of story, the spog is dead.

Furthermore, it doesn’t take rocket science to figure out
that a fully grown human (of which theire are none) would be
ABLE to see 100% of reality, this person is called "GOD"
historically. QED, a scientific explanation of God has been
discovered.

Nonsense, see above.

AND REMEMBER, the evidence from the PFF is only
ELEMENTARY EVIDENCE which bozo's like you are able to
discuss, the SOPHISTICATED AND DEFINITIVE PROOF comes
from100 years of published Psychometry eigenvector structure
which proves that invisibility is caused by a EINSTEINIAN
CURVATURE of subjective spacetime, of course THAT is BEYOND
your puny scientific capacity.... you can't even understand
how a dog whistle works, never mind the "invisible world".

You have totally degenerated into word salad and dreams here.



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George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:27:59 -0400, TMG
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:36:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.
[Michael Moroney, heckler]
Actually George has this backwards (no surprise here). Kids can hear
higher frequencies than adults and the ability to hear high frequencies
decreases with age.



[Hammond]
Irrelevant heckler trivia. The next thing he'll do is
start posting about Flickker Fusion Frequency whaich has
NOTHING to do with it.
The following has been well researched and documented:

http://www.v-weiss.de/lehrl-full.html#_edn1
"By a similar method, called ‘picture fusion’ Riedel (1966)
demonstrated that the time shortens as children mature. By
this method, which is explained in the next section, he
investigated children from 7 years (10 frames/s) onward to
15 years (15 frames/s)."

Obviously from this well known data which is common
knowlege in the movie industry since the time of Thomas
Edison, a child cn only see 1/3 of the moving reality that
is visible to an adult. 2/3's OF REALITY IS INVISBLE !
No, no, no. You keep making the mistaken leap, and you ignore the fact
that it's been pointed out MANY times.

The effect you are describing relates to the point that various subjects
perceive flickering static pictures "merge" into the illusion of motion.
You are leaping to the erroneous conclusion that this means that
there is some sort of information lost.

AGAIN, the experiments show ONLY that apparent motion of flashing static
images convert at different rates, NO information is lost, no matter the
apparent conversion rate.

This is stressed AT LENGTH by Siegfried Lehrl and Kristian Gerst Meyer -
they were focused (mostly) on physical science related to the eye
(mostly the lens), but extensively reworked earlier thoughts.

If, as you claim, you know Lehrl "personally" you should keep up.



[Hammond]
NO...... the problem is you're another half baked phony
PhD physicist who has a degree in some lame brain applied
physics field, in your case "ocean physics" whatever the
hell that is.
I suggest you talk to "Doug" who is apparently another
half baked PhD physicist who is also an aggravated SPOG
critic. Sheesh....
Not aggravated, just highly amused at your nonsense.

Point is, you don't even know enough physics to realize
that the "PFF" is the FOURIER SPECTRUM CUTOFF FREQUENCY of
the human visual system's ability to perceive motion.
You don't know what a Fourier Frequency Spectrum of a
time varying function is, and you are not aware of what
happens if you put a high frequency filter in the line and
CUTOFF all the high frequency components. so I’ll TELL YOU
what the effect is, it causes all fast motion in the field
to become a BLUR.... to become INVISIBLE if it's fast
enough. turns out that filter is you're "intelligence" and
intelligence varies DIRECTLY with growth.
Now that's basic physics, and obviously the "PFF" is
simply a direct way to quantitatively MEASURE the CUTOFF
FREQUENCY in any individual.

So what? That has nothing to do with god, any god.

You don't know what you're talking about!
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George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:42:27 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

[Hammond]
FYI, the leadership of the world (which you don't belong
to) have known for thousands of years that poorly developed
people cannot "see" reality as well as highly developed
people, which is WHY highly developed people are in
leadership positions in the first place.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Therefore blind people are poorly developed?



[Hammond]
Cut the **** heckler, dwarfs, midgets, giants, amputees,
lobotomies and blind people are NOT the result of the
Secular Trend Growth Deficit which is UNIVERSAL in the human
race. Quit posting amateur trivia trolling harrassment.
Amateurs have spent years doing this to no avail, you're
just the latest punk heckler to come down the pike!

I am surprised by your inconsistent reply. Blind people
cannot see any motion, therefore by your definition, they
have a low perception of reality.


[Hammond]
Today, the scientific explanation, measurement and PROOF
of this has been found, and it is most directly demonstrated
by the variation of PFF vs. growth.

This has nothing to do with any god.

You're supposed to be a PhD physicist, then surely you
know what a FOURIER FREQUENCY SPECTRUM is, and if so you
should realize that the PFF is a direct measure of the
FOURIER JSPECTRUM CUTOFF FREQUENCY of the Fourier
Transformed spectrum of VISUAL MOVEMENT in the human visual
field. If that cutoff frequency (PFF) is 50% less for one
person compared to another person, then that person sees
HALF THE MOTION of reality that the other person sees.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
This is not true. When you do the fourier transform of the
view of the real world, you get a spectrum of the motion.
With varying cutoff frequencies in this domain, the retransformed
image can be seen to have been affected.


[Hammond]
We're not talking about filtering out high frequencies
that nobody can see anyway, we're tallking about filtering
out 20% or more of the high frequencies they CAN see, in
THAT case the difference is very noticible, MAINLY the
difference in peoples' facial expression and personality
identity... these change drastically. An automoble driving
down the road doesn't look any different, but personality
"identity" is drastically changed if you cut mental
speed...,. this is why it easy to deceive a child... he has
only half the mental speed you have, your true identity is
INVISLBE to him.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
However, the
amount of high frequency spectral content in the transform
for our normal world situations is very low. This is why
mpeg video compression works well. Most changes in our
views happen slowly. Thus someone who sees things 50%
slower may still see 99% of the scene contents or more.


[Hammond]
WRONG physics flunky. mpeg compression is NOT THE SAME
as a LO PASS FILTER. mpeg compression is virtually
lossless, and is effected by very sophisticated pixel
velocity prediction algorythms which are used to predict and
then reconstuct redundant motion and eliminate repetiitive
pixel transmission. There is NO COMPARISON between high
frequency filtering and video compression. Filtering is a
DIRECT LOSS of information, modern compression is vitually
lossless!

Sorry but this is wrong as well. Mpeg is a lossy compression.
It has artifacts and the loss of detail is proportional to
the compression rate. You do not understand that what was
said was that you can remove a lot of motion and not change
the basic image very much. Thus a 20% difference in fusion
frequency does not mean you see 20% less. Not that it matters
since this has nothing to do with any god.



[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
The picture of a rock on the ground is the same for
everyone.

[Hammond]
Even that isn't true. Almost every solid object in nature
shows telltale signs of motion, including wear on rocks,
wind and water erosion and movement, the wind swept profile
of trees etc.

Now George, I think that even your fusion frequency is high
enough to see the rate of erosion of a rock.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
The fusion frequency has developed through evolution to be
adequate for our world. Attaching any further significance
to it is pure speculation.


[Hammond]
You're full of it too. The Growth Deficit has nothing to
do with "Evolution" and it knocks 20% off the PFF for every
adult in the population, some far more than 20%, you don't
know what the hell you're talking about, and could care
less, and I could care less about you amateur opinions.


When you are losing the argument you snip and swear. This
means you are really losing the discussion and perhaps
are even realizing how wrong you are. Keep it up and
you will be on the road to getting better.



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On Wed, 7 May 2008 14:18:07 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
wrote:


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God, you people are sure nasty to each other. It's a real turn off,
Hammond.

[Hammond]
Go f--- yourself Stockbaur.


Oh - by the way- the Universe and God are identical.


[Hammond]
Who told you that, your grandmother?
Whaddid she study ancient Greeks Stoicism in her spare time?
Stoic pahtheism has been out of fashion for 2500 years,
moron.
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:46:40 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:42:27 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


[Hammond]
FYI, the leadership of the world (which you don't belong
to) have known for thousands of years that poorly developed
people cannot "see" reality as well as highly developed
people, which is WHY highly developed people are in
leadership positions in the first place.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Therefore blind people are poorly developed?



[Hammond]
Cut the **** heckler, dwarfs, midgets, giants, amputees,
lobotomies and blind people are NOT the result of the
Secular Trend Growth Deficit which is UNIVERSAL in the human
race. Quit posting amateur trivia trolling harrassment.
Amateurs have spent years doing this to no avail, you're
just the latest punk heckler to come down the pike!

[John Smith, heckler]
Couldn't answer the question ......huh?

[Hammond]
The answer is NO.
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:42:41 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:42:27 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

[Hammond]
FYI, the leadership of the world (which you don't belong
to) have known for thousands of years that poorly developed
people cannot "see" reality as well as highly developed
people, which is WHY highly developed people are in
leadership positions in the first place.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Therefore blind people are poorly developed?



[Hammond]
Cut the **** heckler, dwarfs, midgets, giants, amputees,
lobotomies and blind people are NOT the result of the
Secular Trend Growth Deficit which is UNIVERSAL in the human
race. Quit posting amateur trivia trolling harrassment.
Amateurs have spent years doing this to no avail, you're
just the latest punk heckler to come down the pike!

I am surprised by your inconsistent reply. Blind people
cannot see any motion, therefore by your definition, they
have a low perception of reality.



[Hammond]
Amateur level neocriminal heckling. You're a real piece
of yuppie scum.
The existence of God jfor any person depends ONLY on his
growthcurve deficit. Doesn't matter whether you're
blindfolded with duct tape or not. amateur jheckling piece
of filth.



[Hammond]
Today, the scientific explanation, measurement and PROOF
of this has been found, and it is most directly demonstrated
by the variation of PFF vs. growth.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
This has nothing to do with any god.

[Hammond]
UNSUPPORTED ASSERTION

You're supposed to be a PhD physicist, then surely you
know what a FOURIER FREQUENCY SPECTRUM is, and if so you
should realize that the PFF is a direct measure of the
FOURIER JSPECTRUM CUTOFF FREQUENCY of the Fourier
Transformed spectrum of VISUAL MOVEMENT in the human visual
field. If that cutoff frequency (PFF) is 50% less for one
person compared to another person, then that person sees
HALF THE MOTION of reality that the other person sees.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
This is not true. When you do the fourier transform of the
view of the real world, you get a spectrum of the motion.
With varying cutoff frequencies in this domain, the retransformed
image can be seen to have been affected.


[Hammond]
We're not talking about filtering out high frequencies
that nobody can see anyway, we're tallking about filtering
out 20% or more of the high frequencies they CAN see, in
THAT case the difference is very noticible, MAINLY the
difference in peoples' facial expression and personality
identity... these change drastically. An automoble driving
down the road doesn't look any different, but personality
"identity" is drastically changed if you cut mental
speed...,. this is why it easy to deceive a child... he has
only half the mental speed you have, your true identity is
INVISLBE to him.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
However, the
amount of high frequency spectral content in the transform
for our normal world situations is very low. This is why
mpeg video compression works well. Most changes in our
views happen slowly. Thus someone who sees things 50%
slower may still see 99% of the scene contents or more.


[Hammond]
WRONG physics flunky. mpeg compression is NOT THE SAME
as a LO PASS FILTER. mpeg compression is virtually
lossless, and is effected by very sophisticated pixel
velocity prediction algorythms which are used to predict and
then reconstuct redundant motion and eliminate repetiitive
pixel transmission. There is NO COMPARISON between high
frequency filtering and video compression. Filtering is a
DIRECT LOSS of information, modern compression is vitually
lossless!


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Sorry but this is wrong as well. Mpeg is a lossy compression.
It has artifacts and the loss of detail is proportional to
the compression rate.


[Hammond]
So does static in a video signal, that has nothing to do
with high frequency attenuation.


You do not understand that what was
said was that you can remove a lot of motion and not change
the basic image very much.


[Hammond]
Not by cutting off the top 20% of the VISIBLE motion
spectrum which is what a hi frequency filter, or reduction
in PFF will do.


[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Thus a 20% difference in fusion
frequency does not mean you see 20% less

[Hammond]
Yes it does asshole. IQ in adults is directly
proportioanal to PFF since both are simply a measure of
mental speed in bits/sec. therefore a 20% reduction in PFF
is equivalent to a 20$ reduction in IQ, say from 100 to 80.
Besides mathematically having a 20% reduced information
processing capability, I think growth in children is OBVIOUS
evidence that a 20% reduction in speed is equivfalent to a
20% reduction in visual perception, for instance, people
mature at 18, and 80% of 18 is 14.4, I think its commonly
observed that an 18 year old has 20% better vision
comprehension than a 14.4 year old.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
. Not that it matters
since this has nothing to do with any god.


[Hammond]
Quit posting UNSUPPORTED ASSERTIONS



[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
The picture of a rock on the ground is the same for
everyone.

[Hammond]
Even that isn't true. Almost every solid object in nature
shows telltale signs of motion, including wear on rocks,
wind and water erosion and movement, the wind swept profile
of trees etc.

Now George, I think that even your fusion frequency is high
enough to see the rate of erosion of a rock.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
The fusion frequency has developed through evolution to be
adequate for our world. Attaching any further significance
to it is pure speculation.


[Hammond]
You're full of it too. The Growth Deficit has nothing to
do with "Evolution" and it knocks 20% off the PFF for every
adult in the population, some far more than 20%, you don't
know what the hell you're talking about, and could care
less, and I could care less about you amateur opinions.


When you are losing the argument you snip and swear. This
means you are really losing the discussion and perhaps
are even realizing how wrong you are. Keep it up and
you will be on the road to getting better.


[hAMMOND]
I can kick kook ass all day long. Particularly enjoyable
is academic yuppie scum like you.

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On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:28:21 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


[Hammond]
Horse****..... the linear variation of the PFF with
childhood growth, just like IQ, has been common knowlege
known and documented for 75 years.
[Doug, alleged physicist, SPOG critic]
So? It still has nothing to do with a god.


[Hammond]
Stop playing dumb. Obviously the PFF is the Fourier
Cutoff frequency of the human detection of visual motion,
and it WELL KNOWN to vary linearly with Human Growth.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
So what?

[Hammond]
So read the rest of the paragraph pinhead.

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Ergo, since the Secular Trend in Human Growth shows that
the average person only reaches about 80% of full growth;
20% of REALITY is INVISIBLE to the average person!

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
No, this is not true. What is true that the rate of motion
where a person starts seeing blurring is a variable with
different people and ages.


[Hammond]
Congratulations, that wasn't too hard for you was it?

[Doug, bogus physicist and SPOG heckler]
Clearly this constitutes an INVISBLE WORLD which is
exactly what Religion has been claiming for thousands of
years.]

This is a completely unsupported assumption. There is no
evidence at all for this other than your fantasy.

[Hammond]
Nonsense, the full body of evidence PROVES THAT since it
explains in quatitative detail all 20 of the fundamental
claims of religion about the "invible world", "God" and
"Heaven". Sorry dip****, you can't argue against a theory
without actually reding it and knowing what it is about.
You're all through punk, go find something else to do
that isn't too challenging for you. you'll get nothing but
your ignorance and aggravated counterproductiveness exposed
on this thread.

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