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Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy



 
 
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Old August 14th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
Radium
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,

and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?

Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?


Thanks,

Radium

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Old August 14th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
PD
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

On Aug 13, 11:17 pm, Radium wrote:
Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?


From a scientific point of view, you are free to add any consequences

imaginable to a completely imaginary scenario. The moment you cite a
"supernatural force" acting with "mysterious power" to do something
that is well outside the scope of natural law (such as free gluons not
attached to anything), then there are no scientifically reliable
consequences. It wouldn't matter if you concluded that time would
shear and bifurcate the universe into two simultaneous futures, or if
you concluded that the recombination energy of the free gluon
reassociating with any nearby quark would ignite the atmosphere.
Either are equally likely in a fantasy world.

Next assignment: Figure out what would happen, scientifically
speaking, if some supernatural power violated the 2nd law of
thermodynamics.


Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?

Thanks,

Radium



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Old August 14th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy


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Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,

and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?

Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?



Well, you'd better hope your supernatural force has whisked you to Mars, or
one of Saturn's moons and set you up with a cozy environment and many sexy
in-heat women, because form your vantage point, all you'd see is a very
bright flash as the Earth stopped existing as a planet housing 6 billion
humans and many billions more of various plant and animal species. Perhaps
you could ask your supernatural force why it would do such a silly thing?


Greysky


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Old August 14th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

On Aug 14, 8:19 pm, PD wrote:
On Aug 13, 11:17 pm, Radium wrote:



Hi:


Theoretical situation:


It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.


From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?
From a scientific point of view, you are free to add any consequences


imaginable to a completely imaginary scenario. The moment you cite a
"supernatural force" acting with "mysterious power" to do something
that is well outside the scope of natural law (such as free gluons not
attached to anything), then there are no scientifically reliable
consequences. It wouldn't matter if you concluded that time would
shear and bifurcate the universe into two simultaneous futures, or if
you concluded that the recombination energy of the free gluon
reassociating with any nearby quark would ignite the atmosphere.
Either are equally likely in a fantasy world.

Next assignment: Figure out what would happen, scientifically
speaking, if some supernatural power violated the 2nd law of
thermodynamics.


.... as relativity?





Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?


Thanks,


Radium



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Old August 30th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
Autymn D. C.
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

You said "temporarily free".

It depends: What is the energy scale?

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Old August 30th 07 posted to sci.physics,sci.energy
Y.Porat
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

On Aug 14, 8:02 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Troll Radium wrote:
It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.


From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see


You won't and any incoming thing with enough kinetic energy
to simply disassociate the charged particles into plasma will
kill you instantly. You'll not "see" a thing.


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idiot crook!
what do you talke about things
you obviously dont know a ****
cant yo0u say simply:
it i just a wild guess that untill now has no hands and no legs and
is jsut a smoke screen to ignorance ??
th emass of 3 quarks i sonly less than 10 percent
of the nucleid mass
90 percent are simply UNKNOWN !!
more than 50 percent of curing a decease
is a proper DIASGNOZE !!
Hey crook ?? you and others are walking damage
to the advance of science
Y.P
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Old August 31st 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

On Aug 29, 5:34 pm, "Autymn D. C." wrote:

You said "temporarily free".


Sorry I mean't free until the end of the story.

It depends: What is the energy scale?


I wish I knew

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Old August 31st 07 posted to sci.physics,sci.energy
Radium
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

On Aug 13, 10:02 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

Troll Radium wrote:


From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see


You won't and any incoming thing with enough kinetic energy
to simply disassociate the charged particles into plasma will
kill you instantly. You'll not "see" a thing.


What if the supernatural force does not allow the charged particles to
dissociate into plasma but just attacks the gluons in the neutrons of
those air molecules?

Let's say the force protects the protons and electrons of the air
molecules and prevents ionization while simply concentrating its power
onto the neutrons' gluons, stretching those gluons apart and also not
letting them recombine. The supernatural force allows the gluons to
attempt to recombine but does not allow them to succeed in actually
recombining.

Gluons want to stay attached to each other -- that is one reason you
can have a beam of photons [e.g. a laser beam] but not a beam of
gluons. If some mystical power has stretches them apart and does not
let them recombine, its pretty interesting, just what might happen.

Gluons carry the strong force and the further you stretch them apart
from each other, the more they attempt to move towards each other.
What if these gluons are stretched so much that they "snap"?

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Old August 31st 07 posted to sci.physics,sci.energy
Dan Bloomquist
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy



Radium wrote:


What if the supernatural force///


Happy trolling...........

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Old September 1st 07 posted to sci.physics,sci.energy
Y.Porat
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Default Busting gluons -- my ultimate high-energy physics fantasy

On Aug 31, 7:54 am, Radium wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:02 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

Troll Radium wrote:
From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see

You won't and any incoming thing with enough kinetic energy
to simply disassociate the charged particles into plasma will
kill you instantly. You'll not "see" a thing.


What if the supernatural force does not allow the charged particles to
dissociate into plasma but just attacks the gluons in the neutrons of
those air molecules?

Let's say the force protects the protons and electrons of the air
molecules and prevents ionization while simply concentrating its power
onto the neutrons' gluons, stretching those gluons apart and also not
letting them recombine. The supernatural force allows the gluons to
attempt to recombine but does not allow them to succeed in actually
recombining.

Gluons want to stay attached to each other -- that is one reason you
can have a beam of photons [e.g. a laser beam] but not a beam of
gluons. If some mystical power has stretches them apart and does not
let them recombine, its pretty interesting, just what might happen.

Gluons carry the strong force and the further you stretch them apart
from each other, the more they attempt to move towards each other.
What if these gluons are stretched so much that they "snap"?


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have you ever heared about the 'Circlon ??'

Y.Porat
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