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Hi:
Theoretical situation: It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects. From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel, and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed? Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this? Thanks, Radium |
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On Aug 13, 11:17 pm, Radium wrote:
Hi: Theoretical situation: It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects. From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel, and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed? From a scientific point of view, you are free to add any consequences imaginable to a completely imaginary scenario. The moment you cite a "supernatural force" acting with "mysterious power" to do something that is well outside the scope of natural law (such as free gluons not attached to anything), then there are no scientifically reliable consequences. It wouldn't matter if you concluded that time would shear and bifurcate the universe into two simultaneous futures, or if you concluded that the recombination energy of the free gluon reassociating with any nearby quark would ignite the atmosphere. Either are equally likely in a fantasy world. Next assignment: Figure out what would happen, scientifically speaking, if some supernatural power violated the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this? Thanks, Radium |
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"Radium" wrote in message oups.com... Hi: Theoretical situation: It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects. From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel, and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed? Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this? Well, you'd better hope your supernatural force has whisked you to Mars, or one of Saturn's moons and set you up with a cozy environment and many sexy in-heat women, because form your vantage point, all you'd see is a very bright flash as the Earth stopped existing as a planet housing 6 billion humans and many billions more of various plant and animal species. Perhaps you could ask your supernatural force why it would do such a silly thing? Greysky |
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On Aug 14, 8:19 pm, PD wrote:
On Aug 13, 11:17 pm, Radium wrote: Hi: Theoretical situation: It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects. From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel, and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed? From a scientific point of view, you are free to add any consequences imaginable to a completely imaginary scenario. The moment you cite a "supernatural force" acting with "mysterious power" to do something that is well outside the scope of natural law (such as free gluons not attached to anything), then there are no scientifically reliable consequences. It wouldn't matter if you concluded that time would shear and bifurcate the universe into two simultaneous futures, or if you concluded that the recombination energy of the free gluon reassociating with any nearby quark would ignite the atmosphere. Either are equally likely in a fantasy world. Next assignment: Figure out what would happen, scientifically speaking, if some supernatural power violated the 2nd law of thermodynamics. .... as relativity? Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this? Thanks, Radium |
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You said "temporarily free".
It depends: What is the energy scale? |
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On Aug 14, 8:02 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Troll Radium wrote: It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects. From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see You won't and any incoming thing with enough kinetic energy to simply disassociate the charged particles into plasma will kill you instantly. You'll not "see" a thing. -------------- idiot crook! what do you talke about things you obviously dont know a **** cant yo0u say simply: it i just a wild guess that untill now has no hands and no legs and is jsut a smoke screen to ignorance ?? th emass of 3 quarks i sonly less than 10 percent of the nucleid mass 90 percent are simply UNKNOWN !! more than 50 percent of curing a decease is a proper DIASGNOZE !! Hey crook ?? you and others are walking damage to the advance of science Y.P --------------------- |
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On Aug 29, 5:34 pm, "Autymn D. C." wrote:
You said "temporarily free". Sorry I mean't free until the end of the story. It depends: What is the energy scale? I wish I knew |
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On Aug 13, 10:02 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Troll Radium wrote: From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see You won't and any incoming thing with enough kinetic energy to simply disassociate the charged particles into plasma will kill you instantly. You'll not "see" a thing. What if the supernatural force does not allow the charged particles to dissociate into plasma but just attacks the gluons in the neutrons of those air molecules? Let's say the force protects the protons and electrons of the air molecules and prevents ionization while simply concentrating its power onto the neutrons' gluons, stretching those gluons apart and also not letting them recombine. The supernatural force allows the gluons to attempt to recombine but does not allow them to succeed in actually recombining. Gluons want to stay attached to each other -- that is one reason you can have a beam of photons [e.g. a laser beam] but not a beam of gluons. If some mystical power has stretches them apart and does not let them recombine, its pretty interesting, just what might happen. Gluons carry the strong force and the further you stretch them apart from each other, the more they attempt to move towards each other. What if these gluons are stretched so much that they "snap"? |
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Radium wrote: What if the supernatural force/// Happy trolling........... |
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On Aug 31, 7:54 am, Radium wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:02 pm, Sam Wormley wrote: Troll Radium wrote: From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see You won't and any incoming thing with enough kinetic energy to simply disassociate the charged particles into plasma will kill you instantly. You'll not "see" a thing. What if the supernatural force does not allow the charged particles to dissociate into plasma but just attacks the gluons in the neutrons of those air molecules? Let's say the force protects the protons and electrons of the air molecules and prevents ionization while simply concentrating its power onto the neutrons' gluons, stretching those gluons apart and also not letting them recombine. The supernatural force allows the gluons to attempt to recombine but does not allow them to succeed in actually recombining. Gluons want to stay attached to each other -- that is one reason you can have a beam of photons [e.g. a laser beam] but not a beam of gluons. If some mystical power has stretches them apart and does not let them recombine, its pretty interesting, just what might happen. Gluons carry the strong force and the further you stretch them apart from each other, the more they attempt to move towards each other. What if these gluons are stretched so much that they "snap"? ------------- have you ever heared about the 'Circlon ??' Y.Porat --------------------------- |
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