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Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.



 
 
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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up before but I just can't get over
it. I apologize profusely to those who might be annoyed.

Is it theoretically-possible to facilitate hydrogen-hydrogen fusion
within the earth's troposphere using a laser? If so, what would be the
maximum wavelength [or minimum frequency] and minimum intensity of
laser light required for this -- given that the thickness of the beam
is no thicker than the beam a pen-sized laser-pointer?

The application of this nuclear fusion is not generation of power but
rather to produce a spectacular light show in the night sky -- using
the minimum light intensity, maximum wavelength -- given the beam-
thickness I described.

I am guessing that the minimum wavelength required is too short for
the human eye to see. However, the effects of the laser-induced fusion
maybe visible. I could be wrong about both, though. So please assist
me.

This laser is on a football field and pointed upward toward the sky
before and while the laser is on.

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, exaggerations, taunts, insults, and
trivializations. I am really interested in this.


I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.

I would like to give you some information about my disability. The
reason I am posting this message about Asperger's is to help avoid any
potential misunderstandings [though it's probably too late].

I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (AS). AS is a
neurological condition that causes significant impairment in social
interactions. People with AS see the world differently and this can
often bring them in conflict with conventional ways of thinking. They
have difficulty in reading body language, and interpreting subtle
cues. In my situation, I have significant difficulty with natural
conversation, reading social cues, and maintaining eye contact. This
can lead to a great deal of misunderstanding about my intent or my
behavior. For example, I may not always know what to say in social
situations, so I may look away or may not say anything. I also may not
always respond quickly when asked direct questions, but if given time
I am able express my ideas.

On Usenet, the text-equivalent of my disability is probably noticed. I
do apologize profusely, for any inconvenience it causes.

Thank you very much in advance for your understanding, cooperation,
and assistance.


Regards,

Radium

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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

On Jul 27, 6:15 pm, Radium wrote:
Hi:


[snip crap]

THE ANSWER IS "NO". IT WILL ALWAYS BE "NO".

Stop asking stupid questions!


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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

On Jul 27, 7:36 pm, Eric Gisse wrote:

THE ANSWER IS "NO". IT WILL ALWAYS BE "NO".


Okay, then is the most energetic event that can be facilitated by a
laser whose beam is no thicker than that of a pen-sized laser-pointer?
Gluon-jets and nuclear fusion are out of the question.

Note: While the beam of this laser is no thicker than that of a pen-
sized laser-pointed, its light intensity and wavelength [or frequency]
are not limited to that emitted by a pen-sized laser-pointer. The
highest-frequency used by today's laser-pointers is in the green range
and with light-intensity not nearly enough to cause anything
spectacular reaction in the air molecules that make up the
troposphere.

The laser I am describing is of a much higher-light-intensity and
shorter-wavelength than a laser pointer.

Obviously such a high-powered laser will need equipment that is much
larger than a laser-pointer. It's just that the beam is as small as a
laser pointer. The rest of this laser will need to be much bigger to
generate the intensities desired.

The wattage of this laser is somewhere around the same as the lasers
used in experimental Deuterium-Tritium fusion. However, this laser's
beam is so much thinner than that of those lasers and its wavelength
is in the gamma-ray region.

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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

In sci.physics Radium wrote:
On Jul 27, 7:36 pm, Eric Gisse wrote:


THE ANSWER IS "NO". IT WILL ALWAYS BE "NO".


Okay, then is the most energetic event that can be facilitated by a
laser whose beam is no thicker than that of a pen-sized laser-pointer?
Gluon-jets and nuclear fusion are out of the question.


Punching holes in metal, though pen sized laser pointers generally
have crappy divergence.

snip crap

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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

On Jul 28, 7:15 am, Radium wrote:
Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up before but I just can't get over
it. I apologize profusely to those who might be annoyed.

Is it theoretically-possible to facilitate hydrogen-hydrogen fusion
within the earth's troposphere using a laser? If so, what would be the
maximum wavelength [or minimum frequency] and minimum intensity of
laser light required for this -- given that the thickness of the beam
is no thicker than the beam a pen-sized laser-pointer?

The application of this nuclear fusion is not generation of power but
rather to produce a spectacular light show in the night sky -- using
the minimum light intensity, maximum wavelength -- given the beam-
thickness I described.

I am guessing that the minimum wavelength required is too short for
the human eye to see. However, the effects of the laser-induced fusion
maybe visible. I could be wrong about both, though. So please assist
me.

This laser is on a football field and pointed upward toward the sky
before and while the laser is on.

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, exaggerations, taunts, insults, and
trivializations. I am really interested in this.

I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.

I would like to give you some information about my disability. The
reason I am posting this message about Asperger's is to help avoid any
potential misunderstandings [though it's probably too late].

I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (AS). AS is a
neurological condition that causes significant impairment in social
interactions. People with AS see the world differently and this can
often bring them in conflict with conventional ways of thinking. They
have difficulty in reading body language, and interpreting subtle
cues. In my situation, I have significant difficulty with natural
conversation, reading social cues, and maintaining eye contact. This
can lead to a great deal of misunderstanding about my intent or my
behavior. For example, I may not always know what to say in social
situations, so I may look away or may not say anything. I also may not
always respond quickly when asked direct questions, but if given time
I am able express my ideas.

On Usenet, the text-equivalent of my disability is probably noticed. I
do apologize profusely, for any inconvenience it causes.

Thank you very much in advance for your understanding, cooperation,
and assistance.

Regards,

Radium


dear Radium
here's a very no jokes answer
for H-H fusion u require very high speeds of hydrogen atoms so that
their nuclei can overcome protonic forces of repulsion. such high
speeds can only be gotten by heating it to very high temp maybe by
exploding a nuke. if u fire a laser the laser will will cause the
nuclei to vibrate and hence go out of its way. then again laser being
electromagnetic radiation it will only be absorbed or radiated. high
intensity laser will only cause more absorptions and electron
transitions bot will never be enuf for nucleic collisions.

dis is y its not possible

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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

On Jul 27, 7:15 pm, Radium wrote:
Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up before but I just can't get over
it. I apologize profusely to those who might be annoyed.

Is it theoretically-possible to facilitate hydrogen-hydrogen fusion
within the earth's troposphere using a laser? If so, what would be the
maximum wavelength [or minimum frequency] and minimum intensity of
laser light required for this -- given that the thickness of the beam
is no thicker than the beam a pen-sized laser-pointer?

The application of this nuclear fusion is not generation of power but
rather to produce a spectacular light show in the night sky -- using
the minimum light intensity, maximum wavelength -- given the beam-
thickness I described.

I am guessing that the minimum wavelength required is too short for
the human eye to see. However, the effects of the laser-induced fusion
maybe visible. I could be wrong about both, though. So please assist
me.

This laser is on a football field and pointed upward toward the sky
before and while the laser is on.

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, exaggerations, taunts, insults, and
trivializations. I am really interested in this.

I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.

I would like to give you some information about my disability. The
reason I am posting this message about Asperger's is to help avoid any
potential misunderstandings [though it's probably too late].

I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (AS). AS is a
neurological condition that causes significant impairment in social
interactions. People with AS see the world differently and this can
often bring them in conflict with conventional ways of thinking. They
have difficulty in reading body language, and interpreting subtle
cues. In my situation, I have significant difficulty with natural
conversation, reading social cues, and maintaining eye contact. This
can lead to a great deal of misunderstanding about my intent or my
behavior. For example, I may not always know what to say in social
situations, so I may look away or may not say anything. I also may not
always respond quickly when asked direct questions, but if given time
I am able express my ideas.

On Usenet, the text-equivalent of my disability is probably noticed. I
do apologize profusely, for any inconvenience it causes.

Thank you very much in advance for your understanding, cooperation,
and assistance.

Regards,

Radium


Hello,

I just posted a thread on Hydrogen disolusion.

My guess was 40Mhz radio at 400 megawatts over a three square inch
exit port. And it make bursts of exothemic power. The problem with
you idea was the frequency and the range. How would short range
reaction be prevented?

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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

On Jul 28, 5:02 am, wrote:

dear Radium
here's a very no jokes answer
for H-H fusion u require very high speeds of hydrogen atoms so that
their nuclei can overcome protonic forces of repulsion. such high
speeds can only be gotten by heating it to very high temp maybe by
exploding a nuke. if u fire a laser the laser will will cause the
nuclei to vibrate and hence go out of its way. then again laser being
electromagnetic radiation it will only be absorbed or radiated. high
intensity laser will only cause more absorptions and electron
transitions bot will never be enuf for nucleic collisions.

dis is y its not possible


Thanks.

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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

Radium wrote:

Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up before but

[snip crap]

Ignorance is educable, stupidity is forever. An idiot is not half way
to being an idiot-savant. Ignorance is not a form of knowing things.

If you know you are an idiot, and we know you are an idiot, and each
knows the other knows you are an idiot, and even other idiots know you
are an idiot - and you are a boring idiot - why do you further pursue
the point?



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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.


Uncle Al wrote:
Ignorance is educable, stupidity is forever. An idiot is not half way
to being an idiot-savant. Ignorance is not a form of knowing things.


Please, Uncle Al,
Don't be so hard on poor little Radium! He asked you not to joke and
to take him seriously! Of course what you don't think about is that
one day, he may grow up, get a government job, propose nuclear fusion
by laser in the upper atmosphere and his bosses will LOVE the idea.
Soon HUGE amounts of tax dollars will flow into Radium's project and
eventually they'll get around to testing the idea. And when they do,
the laser will suddenly create spontaneous fusion, set the entire
atmosphere of the planet on fire and burn us all to a crisp.

Just shows you the power of non-directed random thought.

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Old July 28th 07 posted to alt.lasers,sci.physics,sci.energy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle
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Default Using a laser to facilitate H-H fusion within Earth's troposphere.

On Jul 28, 5:02 am, wrote:

if u fire a laser the laser will will cause the
nuclei to vibrate and hence go out of its way. then again laser being
electromagnetic radiation it will only be absorbed or radiated. high
intensity laser will only cause more absorptions and electron
transitions.


Will the above cause any visible effects in the area of the laser beam
and around that area even if the wavelength is shorter than what is
visible to the human eye? The laser light itself maybe invisible,
however, its effects on gas molecules may cause these gases to glow.
Right?

Let's say my hypothetical laser operates at petawatt intensities and
its wavelength is of a hard gamma-ray frequency. This laser's beam is
highly-energetic but its beam is only as thick as that of a laser-
pointer's beam. If this laser is fired upward into the night sky [in
which there are no clouds] from a football field that is otherwise
dark. Will the tropospheric gases in the path of the laser's beam
glow? If so, what color? Also, will the effects of this laser's light
on air molecules in its path generate any EMI/RFI that can be
perceived on nearby radio and television receivers?

 




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