D-Wave Inc. (I read in the various news articles on the net)
has demonstrated a quantum computer (and for sceptics, there are
several technical articles in little-known journals, so says the web)
and is planning to give free accounts to program a quantum computer.

D-Wave's web-site is http://www.dwavesys.com

This should be great for PhD hunters.

Erach

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On May 2, 4:58 am, John Ladasky wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:40 pm, " wrote:

Hi all,
Is it time yet to start a seperate newsgroup on USENET "comp.quantum-
computers"...
[snip]
ps. Please send me votes YES or NO which I can submit to the USENET
authorities to start a comp.quantum-computers newsgroup

Erach,

I submit to you, simultaneously, one "yes" vote and one "no"
vote. :^P

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wrote:
D-Wave Inc. (I read in the various news articles on the net)
has demonstrated a quantum computer (and for sceptics, there are
several technical articles in little-known journals, so says the web)
and is planning to give free accounts to program a quantum computer.

I met an employee of D-Wave a few months ago and I believe they're legit,
but I don't think there's much practical value in this offer; you'd almost
certainly get much better turnaround times from an emulator running on your
local machine. The only advantage of using the real hardware is that you
might find bugs in it (or in quantum mechanics, but I doubt that).

-- Ben

On 1 May 2007 23:05:11 -0700, "
wrote:

D-Wave Inc. (I read in the various news articles on the net)
has demonstrated a quantum computer (and for sceptics, there are
several technical articles in little-known journals, so says the web)
and is planning to give free accounts to program a quantum computer.

D-Wave's web-site is http://www.dwavesys.com

This should be great for PhD hunters.

Erach

Contact

D-Wave Systems Inc.
100 - 4401 Still Creek Drive
Burnaby, British Columbia
Canada
V5C 6G9

Telephone: (604) 630-1428
Fax: (604) 630-1434

Everyone working on quantum computers is either a fraud or a fool or
both. That includes the folk at D-Wave. Quantum physicists do not
understand why the universe is probabilistic. David Deutsch has his
infinite parallel universes crap he's been preaching for aeons while
most others admit that they have no clue. Deutsch is a full blown
crackpot of the worse kind in my book. His crap is no better than the
time travel, paranormal crap of that other crackpot, Jack Safarti.
Come to think of it, Deutsch believes in the possibility of time
travel as well. How any of these lunatics get to be taken seriously by
the mainstream physics community is a mystery.

The truth is that the universe is probabilistic because it is discrete
and there is only one fundamental discrete interval (i.e., a universal
event counter). Since nature cannot calculate precise intervals for
interactions, it is forced to use the only alternative: probability.
In other words, all interactions have the same fundamental duration
but the timing of interactions is probabilistic. BTW, this is the
reason for the probabilistic decay of subatomic particles. What's
important is that, in the end, all conservation laws are obeyed.

Telling it like I see it.

Louis Savain

Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm

Ben,
Actually programming a quantum computer should be quite simple ----
just map your problem's NP complete portion to the D-wave quantum
computer's NP complete problem --- and do the non NP complete problem
part (the mapping part) on a digital computer.

There are papers saying (by researchers other than D-wave) that a
quantum computer can do what a digital computer cannot. So you can
never get digital computer hardware to emulate a quantum computer.

A quantum computer (forgot how many qubits but very small) can handle
10^300 states, which is more than the number of protons in the known
universe.

I also read an article, which says that a quantum computer is like
cold fusion ---- neither will happen.


I met an employee of D-Wave a few months ago and I believe they're legit,
but I don't think there's much practical value in this offer; you'd almost
certainly get much better turnaround times from an emulator running on your
local machine. The only advantage of using the real hardware is that you
might find bugs in it (or in quantum mechanics, but I doubt that).

-- Ben

On 2 Mag, 18:03, Traveler wrote:

Everyone working on quantum computers is either a fraud or a fool or
both.

Do you know what Quantum Computing is?
What do you think of the Shor's algorithm, the Grover's Algorithm and
quantum cryptography? All frauds?

On May 2, 10:03 am, " wrote:
Ben,
Actually programming a quantum computer should be quite simple ----
just map your problem's NP complete portion to the D-wave quantum
computer's NP complete problem --- and do the non NP complete problem
part (the mapping part) on a digital computer.

There are papers saying (by researchers other than D-wave) that a
quantum computer can do what a digital computer cannot. So you can
never get digital computer hardware to emulate a quantum computer.

A quantum computer (forgot how many qubits but very small) can handle
10^300 states, which is more than the number of protons in the known
universe.

I also read an article, which says that a quantum computer is like
cold fusion ---- neither will happen.

I met an employee of D-Wave a few months ago and I believe they're legit,
but I don't think there's much practical value in this offer; you'd almost
certainly get much better turnaround times from an emulator running on your
local machine. The only advantage of using the real hardware is that you
might find bugs in it (or in quantum mechanics, but I doubt that).

QP-solvable problems
( and the more technologically relevant BQP subcollection )
have not been shown to contain NP-complete problems

also
the D-Wave machines are allegedly hybrid architectures
with only a handful (16?) of qubits available

this only begins to allow a very restricted set of quantum simulations
which is where the money for quantum computing is right now
( molecular conformation and drug binding,
collision analyses and fusion,
... )

the banking industry will adapt to using complete encryption
techniques
as the need arises
but that is already doable without full quantum computing

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galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar

On 2 Mag, 22:03, galathaea wrote:
the banking industry will adapt to using complete encryption
techniques
as the need arises
but that is already doable without full quantum computing

It is belived that as soon as a quantum computer with a significant
number of qubits (thousands) becomes available, asymmetric
cryptographic and key exchange algorithms such as RSA and Diffie-
Hellman will be practically broken, forcing organization to move to
other systems, possibly quantum key exchange protocols (that are
considered the most feasible application of quantum computing for
now).

On 2 May 2007 12:27:43 -0700, Vend wrote:

On 2 Mag, 18:03, Traveler wrote:

Everyone working on quantum computers is either a fraud or a fool or
both.

Do you know what Quantum Computing is?
What do you think of the Shor's algorithm, the Grover's Algorithm and
quantum cryptography? All frauds?

Do you know why quantum processes are probabilistic?

Louis Savain

Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm

Can quantum computers be used to design quantum computers ?
The D-wave computers played Sudoku in the demonstrations. How
difficult is that to program ?
Is Sudoku a good comparison with text-search, video search, bio-
informatics search ?

Thanks,
Erach

On May 3, 2:52 am, Vend wrote:
On 2 Mag, 22:03, galathaea wrote:

the banking industry will adapt to using complete encryption
techniques
as the need arises
but that is already doable without full quantum computing

It is belived that as soon as a quantum computer with a significant
number of qubits (thousands) becomes available, asymmetric
cryptographic and key exchange algorithms such as RSA and Diffie-
Hellman will be practically broken, forcing organization to move to
other systems, possibly quantum key exchange protocols (that are
considered the most feasible application of quantum computing for
now).

On 3 Mag, 00:30, Traveler wrote:
On 2 May 2007 12:27:43 -0700, Vend wrote:

On 2 Mag, 18:03, Traveler wrote:

Everyone working on quantum computers is either a fraud or a fool or
both.

Do you know what Quantum Computing is?
What do you think of the Shor's algorithm, the Grover's Algorithm and
quantum cryptography? All frauds?

Do you know why quantum processes are probabilistic?

Not all of them. Anyway, what is the problem with that? Many
algorithms implemented on classical computers are probabilistic, and
it is usually difficult to properly simulate randomness with a
deterministic machine.

Louis Savain

Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm

Ignorant rant. How are you going to run "non-algorithmic
software" (whatever it means) on an algorithmic computer?
Do you know that logic hardware circuits are Turing-complete? For each
computer program there exist an equivalent digital hardware circuit
and viceversa.