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I am confused by the role of Laplace transform and Foureir transform in probability theory and their relations. Fourier transform of a PDF is called the characteristic function. Laplace transform of a PDF is called a probability generating function. 1. Fourier transform of a PDF always exists. How about the Laplace transform? 2. We can always do inverse fourier transfrom to obtain the PDF, but one PDF have both a Laplace transform and a Fourier transform, so the Laplace transform of the very PDF ought to be invertible? Is it always invertible? 3. Since the two transforms corresponding to the same PDF, in order for both of them to work, the singularities of the Laplace-transformed function must be all to the left of the imaginary axis, thus the inverse Laplace transform's integral path should be on the right to the imaginary axis, so that the inverse Laplace transform can be reduced to Fourier transform always? 4. Using characteristic function, we often meet with nested characteristic functions, for example, random variable X has characterisc function f(u), Y has characteristic function g(v), X and Y have a compounded relation that their transform functions become nested, say the overall transform function is f(g(v)), but u is supposed to be real in the original definition of the characteristic function, now g(v) is a complex number, so it has a problem here. Can the definition of characteristic function and probability generating function, and moment generating function all be expanded from real to complex? Please help me clarify my confusions... thx |
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Lucy wrote: Hi, I am confused by the role of Laplace transform and Foureir transform in probability theory and their relations. Fourier transform of a PDF is called the characteristic function. Laplace transform of a PDF is called a probability generating function. This is not the case. A probability generating function is used for distributions on the integers, and while it CAN be related to the Laplace transform, this is rarely of much use. 1. Fourier transform of a PDF always exists. How about the Laplace transform? It always exists for distributions on [0, infinity). For other distributions, with a sign change it is the moment generating function. 2. We can always do inverse fourier transfrom to obtain the PDF, but one PDF have both a Laplace transform and a Fourier transform, so the Laplace transform of the very PDF ought to be invertible? Is it always invertible? One method of inverting to get either the density or the CDF is to integrate on the appropriate line in the complex plane with fixed real part. 3. Since the two transforms corresponding to the same PDF, in order for both of them to work, the singularities of the Laplace-transformed function must be all to the left of the imaginary axis, thus the inverse Laplace transform's integral path should be on the right to the imaginary axis, so that the inverse Laplace transform can be reduced to Fourier transform always? See the above. There ARE real variable methods for inverting the Laplace transform (or the moment generating function), but they can only be used reasonably in closed form expressions, not numerically without fantastic precision. 4. Using characteristic function, we often meet with nested characteristic functions, for example, random variable X has characterisc function f(u), Y has characteristic function g(v), X and Y have a compounded relation that their transform functions become nested, say the overall transform function is f(g(v)), but u is supposed to be real in the original definition of the characteristic function, now g(v) is a complex number, so it has a problem here. Can the definition of characteristic function and probability generating function, and moment generating function all be expanded from real to complex? I find this paragraph to be confusing. Can you give an example to show what you mean? Please help me clarify my confusions... thx -- This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558 |
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Herman Rubin wrote: In article .com, Lucy wrote: Hi, I am confused by the role of Laplace transform and Foureir transform in probability theory and their relations. Fourier transform of a PDF is called the characteristic function. Laplace transform of a PDF is called a probability generating function. This is not the case. A probability generating function is used for distributions on the integers, and while it CAN be related to the Laplace transform, this is rarely of much use. 1. Fourier transform of a PDF always exists. How about the Laplace transform? It always exists for distributions on [0, infinity). For other distributions, with a sign change it is the moment generating function. 2. We can always do inverse fourier transfrom to obtain the PDF, but one PDF have both a Laplace transform and a Fourier transform, so the Laplace transform of the very PDF ought to be invertible? Is it always invertible? One method of inverting to get either the density or the CDF is to integrate on the appropriate line in the complex plane with fixed real part. 3. Since the two transforms corresponding to the same PDF, in order for both of them to work, the singularities of the Laplace-transformed function must be all to the left of the imaginary axis, thus the inverse Laplace transform's integral path should be on the right to the imaginary axis, so that the inverse Laplace transform can be reduced to Fourier transform always? See the above. There ARE real variable methods for inverting the Laplace transform (or the moment generating function), but they can only be used reasonably in closed form expressions, not numerically without fantastic precision. 4. Using characteristic function, we often meet with nested characteristic functions, for example, random variable X has characterisc function f(u), Y has characteristic function g(v), X and Y have a compounded relation that their transform functions become nested, say the overall transform function is f(g(v)), but u is supposed to be real in the original definition of the characteristic function, now g(v) is a complex number, so it has a problem here. Can the definition of characteristic function and probability generating function, and moment generating function all be expanded from real to complex? I find this paragraph to be confusing. Can you give an example to show what you mean? HI Herman, I am digesting your other answers and will get back to you later. For question 4, one example is: Let Y=sum(X_i, i from 1 to N), where X_i's are iid, and N is a positive integer-valued random variable. Let's call X_i's characteristic function g(v), and N's characteristic function f(v). then if I can treat log(g(v)) / i (where "i" is an imaginary unit) as a whole thing, and substitute it as "v" into f(v), then I will have the overall characteristic function: f( log(g(v)) / i ) --------------------- I am wondering if this is allowed because normally "v" has to be a real number, from the definition of characteristic function... |
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