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Rest Energy of particle = Potential Energy + Rotational Energy
= mgh + 2/5 m(r/omega)^2 mass of particle or atom Kg gravitational field m/sec^2 height of particle or atom in the gravitational field meters r radius of atom or particle omega = angular speed The rest energy of a particle isn't E = m0c^2 If the partcle is moving then add KE = 1/2 mv^2 where v = velocity the particle or atom moving This should give the total energy of the atom, not E = mc^2 v can only approach c the speed of light If you want to find the total energy further away form the particle or atom r simply increases. E = hf is incorrect too. Einstein said it measured photon packets of energy, but each packet of photon energy varies and the way they determined h ( planck's constant was by using mass of black bodies. Blackbody mass varies per atom and element. H is not constant. Each element has different colors and some are invisible. So E = hf can't apply to anything. Photon energy and the number of photons vary, and mass with frequency energy applied varies in overall energy too. H is not constant. E = hf is incorrect hf = mc^2 is incorrect Here you are relating photon energy traveling at the speed of light with mass at the speed of light at rest. This doesn't work. In fact, if hf is photon energy then it must have mass, hf/c^2 = m photons have no mass. This equation is wrong too. S. Enterprize Co. (Membership) http://www.s-enterprize.com/ S. Enterprize (Science Journal) http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/ |
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Rest Energy of particle = Potential Energy + Rotational Energy
= mgh + 2/5 m(r/omega)^2 mass of particle or atom Kg gravitational field m/sec^2 height of particle or atom in the gravitational field meters r radius of atom or particle omega = angular speed The rest energy of a particle isn't E = m0c^2 If the partcle is moving then add KE = 1/2 mv^2 rough calculations v = about 2.9999 X10^8m/sec ( near speed of light) KE = (10^-27) (10^8)^2 KE = 10^-11 Joules 1 eV = 10^-19 joules so an electron traveling in a particle accelerator near the speed of light has about 10 MeV of energy This is close to the collsion energy creation of an electron where a photon collides with an electron near the speed of light and it equals about 1 MeV. near speed of light in a particle accelerator I guess if you add in all the other equations shown above you get a closer answer, without the use of E = mc^2 where v = velocity the particle or atom moving This should give the total energy of the atom, not E = mc^2 v can only approach c the speed of light If you want to find the total energy further away form the particle or atom r simply increases. E = hf is incorrect too. Einstein said it measured photon packets of energy, but each packet of photon energy varies and the way they determined h ( planck's constant was by using mass of black bodies. Blackbody mass varies per atom and element. H is not constant. Each element has different colors and some are invisible. So E = hf can't apply to anything. Photon energy and the number of photons vary, and mass with frequency energy applied varies in overall energy too. H is not constant. E = hf is incorrect hf = mc^2 is incorrect Here you are relating photon energy traveling at the speed of light with mass at the speed of light at rest. This doesn't work. In fact, if hf is photon energy then it must have mass, hf/c^2 = m photons have no mass. This equation is wrong too. S. Enterprize Co. (Membership) http://www.s-enterprize.com/ S. Enterprize (Science Journal) http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/ |
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S. Enterprize Company wrote:
Rest Energy of particle = Potential Energy + Rotational Energy = mgh + 2/5 m(r/omega)^2 mass of particle or atom Kg gravitational field m/sec^2 height of particle or atom in the gravitational field meters r radius of atom or particle omega = angular speed The rest energy of a particle isn't E = m0c^2 A recurring theme throughout your ramblings is that they bear no relation to empirically established fact. The mass of the electron is 0.511MeV/c^2; an electron and a positron can be created in a system with a CM energy of 1.022MeV. Coincidence? No, the amount of energy to create the particles must be at least their rest mass energy, which if you do the sums you will find to be the case. -- FM |
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Frodo Morris wrote in message ...
S. Enterprize Company wrote: Rest Energy of particle = Potential Energy + Rotational Energy E = m0c^2 A recurring theme throughout your ramblings is that they bear no relation to empirically established fact. The mass of the electron is 0.511MeV/c^2; an electron and a positron can be created in a system with a CM energy of 1.022MeV. Coincidence? No, the amount of energy to create the particles must be at least their rest mass energy, which if you do the sums you will find to be the case. ------------ i agree with that last sentence. yet there is no relativistic mass as a result of motion. there is only 'reletivistic force' ie as speed grows the driving force has more and more difficulty to add velocity-- untill the upper limit of C (that is because the fastest driver has no more velocity than C) see the 'the third Porat Postulation' all the best Y.Porat ------------------- |
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S. Enterprize Company wrote:
Rest Energy of particle = Potential Energy + Rotational Energy = mgh + 2/5 m(r/omega)^2 mass of particle or atom Kg gravitational field m/sec^2 height of particle or atom in the gravitational field meters r radius of atom or particle omega = angular speed The rest energy of a particle isn't E = m0c^2 A recurring theme throughout your ramblings is that they bear no relation to empirically established fact. The mass of the electron is 0.511MeV/c^2; an electron and a positron can be created in a system with a CM energy of 1.022MeV. Coincidence? No, the amount of energy to create the particles must be at least their rest mass energy, which if you do the sums you will find to be the case. -- FM I made typo's late last night, I was sleepy. I should get near those values later.... S. Enterprize Co. (Membership) http://www.s-enterprize.com/ S. Enterprize (Science Journal) http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/ |
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