I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Clearly there are quite a few posters who insult first, and it doesn't
much matter what's being discussed, so what gives?

Of course the answer is that by insulting people you can sometimes
control them.

How many of you are readers terrified of posting?

Don't you think that posters know that you are?

If you ever get up the nerve to step out and present your ideas, then
there are posters who can sense it, and can control you.

Basically you can be stopped.

Your dreams of being heard, of maybe adding to the body of knowledge,
or just putting in a different point of view can be crushed in an
instant--on a whim.

Insulting is a powerful technique. If you post, and are insulted,
then you are affected, which can affect what you post next, and for
many of you, stop you from *ever* posting again at all.

Insulting posters is a tried and true technique on Usenet. It's been
there from the beginning and it'll stay here until someone figures out
a way to stop it.

The reason it's so powerful is that in the regular world there are
many protections from being insulted. And if someone does step over
the line, there are many ways to knock them back.

But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

Some of you may think that I'm part of the problem as yes, I *do* at
times insult people, but mostly I challenge them.

I present work from my research for others to consider, and run into
the insult people over, and over and over again.

However, I'm not interested in letting them win. I don't care to
allow myself to be insulted into silence. I'm not afraid to give some
back when insulted.

Remember, a lot of it is about control. People like "Uncle Al" don't
have 29,000 posts because they're not usually winning. Normally that
poster can *silence* people. Think about it!!!

All he has to do is sit wherever he is at his keyboard, posting day
and night as he does, and he can in his own small way control part of
your world, as you're reading this so you're probably on Usenet, by
controlling posters.

He can silence them with insults.


James Harris

On 8 Dec 2003 04:20:47 -0800, (James Harris) wrote:

I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Clearly there are quite a few posters who insult first, and it doesn't
much matter what's being discussed, so what gives?

You really have no idea how hilarious it is when _you_ complain
about people being insulting?

Of course the answer is that by insulting people you can sometimes
control them.

Right. Like when you called me ****ing dog**** - that shut me right
up. Giggle.

How many of you are readers terrified of posting?

Don't you think that posters know that you are?

If you ever get up the nerve to step out and present your ideas, then
there are posters who can sense it, and can control you.

Basically you can be stopped.

Your dreams of being heard, of maybe adding to the body of knowledge,
or just putting in a different point of view can be crushed in an
instant--on a whim.

Insulting is a powerful technique. If you post, and are insulted,
then you are affected, which can affect what you post next, and for
many of you, stop you from *ever* posting again at all.

Insulting posters is a tried and true technique on Usenet. It's been
there from the beginning and it'll stay here until someone figures out
a way to stop it.

The reason it's so powerful is that in the regular world there are
many protections from being insulted. And if someone does step over
the line, there are many ways to knock them back.

But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

Some of you may think that I'm part of the problem as yes, I *do* at
times insult people, but mostly I challenge them.

I present work from my research for others to consider, and run into
the insult people over, and over and over again.

However, I'm not interested in letting them win. I don't care to
allow myself to be insulted into silence. I'm not afraid to give some
back when insulted.

Remember, a lot of it is about control. People like "Uncle Al" don't
have 29,000 posts because they're not usually winning. Normally that
poster can *silence* people. Think about it!!!

All he has to do is sit wherever he is at his keyboard, posting day
and night as he does, and he can in his own small way control part of
your world, as you're reading this so you're probably on Usenet, by
controlling posters.

He can silence them with insults.


James Harris

************************

David C. Ullrich

"James Harris" wrote in message
m...
I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Clearly there are quite a few posters who insult first, and it doesn't
much matter what's being discussed, so what gives?

Of course the answer is that by insulting people you can sometimes
control them.

How many of you are readers terrified of posting?

Don't you think that posters know that you are?

If you ever get up the nerve to step out and present your ideas, then
there are posters who can sense it, and can control you.

Basically you can be stopped.

Your dreams of being heard, of maybe adding to the body of knowledge,
or just putting in a different point of view can be crushed in an
instant--on a whim.

Insulting is a powerful technique. If you post, and are insulted,
then you are affected, which can affect what you post next, and for
many of you, stop you from *ever* posting again at all.

Insulting posters is a tried and true technique on Usenet. It's been
there from the beginning and it'll stay here until someone figures out
a way to stop it.

The reason it's so powerful is that in the regular world there are
many protections from being insulted. And if someone does step over
the line, there are many ways to knock them back.

But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

Some of you may think that I'm part of the problem as yes, I *do* at
times insult people, but mostly I challenge them.

I present work from my research for others to consider, and run into
the insult people over, and over and over again.

However, I'm not interested in letting them win. I don't care to
allow myself to be insulted into silence. I'm not afraid to give some
back when insulted.

Remember, a lot of it is about control. People like "Uncle Al" don't
have 29,000 posts because they're not usually winning. Normally that
poster can *silence* people. Think about it!!!

All he has to do is sit wherever he is at his keyboard, posting day
and night as he does, and he can in his own small way control part of
your world, as you're reading this so you're probably on Usenet, by
controlling posters.

He can silence them with insults.


James Harris

But James, by not insulting those people back, you are sure to show others
that you're more mature than the ones doing the insulting. Wouldn't that
help in your favor?

--
David Moran
Chief Meteorologist
Oklahoma Storm Team

In sci.math James Harris wrote:
I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Your posts are sufficient.

[...]
But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

But this is hard work.
By insulting people day and night, he saves me from insulting people,
so I can try to keep the positive image of myself.

Perhaps he is also working on the terrestrial version of the
universal insulting problem, described by Douglas Adams.
In this case it would be almost serious research.

Marc

Alert!!!: Crank! Troll! Spammer! Cybervandal!

James Harris wrote:

I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Clearly there are quite a few posters who insult first, and it doesn't
much matter what's being discussed, so what gives?

Yes, it does matter what is discussed. Not only does it matter what is
being discussed, but in what manner.

Of course the answer is that by insulting people you can sometimes
control them.

You,clearly, are not under the control of anything or anyone -- except
your own inner demons.

How many of you are readers terrified of posting?

Don't you think that posters know that you are?

If you ever get up the nerve to step out and present your ideas, then
there are posters who can sense it, and can control you.

Basically you can be stopped.

How? You are the worst offender in this newsgroup for posting crap, trash,
inappropriate diatribes, false theories, rambling monologues, insults,
invectives and threats -- and no one stops you.

Your dreams of being heard, of maybe adding to the body of knowledge,
or just putting in a different point of view can be crushed in an
instant--on a whim.

Every word you have written has been read. Please provide one (1) example
of your claim.

Insulting is a powerful technique. If you post, and are insulted,
then you are affected, which can affect what you post next, and for
many of you, stop you from *ever* posting again at all.

Your insults and gutter language are well-known in this newsgroup. Are you
bent on revealing yourself as a hypocrite? If you don't think insults are
appropriate, don't use them.

Insulting posters is a tried and true technique on Usenet. It's been
there from the beginning and it'll stay here until someone figures out
a way to stop it.

You could start by eliminating the practice yourself.

The reason it's so powerful is that in the regular world there are
many protections from being insulted. And if someone does step over

the line, there are many ways to knock them back.

[snip unintended praise of Uncle Al]

I present work from my research for others to consider, and run into
the insult people over, and over and over again.

Puleez! That characterization is an outrageous attempt at revisionist
history. Anyone who frequents this newsgroup *knows* that you are not just
posting research. You are faithfully and repeatedly applying the following
algorithm:

1) Post error-ridden pseudo-mathematical nonsense, full of random leaps to
false conclusions,

2) Claim that the above represents an irrefutable 'proof' of some
previously unknown fact,

3) Accuse those who find the inevitable errors with collusion in denying
your results a fair hearing,

4) Insulting those who find errors, threatening them with their jobs,
their freedom or their lives,

5) Resorting to incomprehensible snivelling, hand-wringing, blubbering and
gutter language.

6) Sober up and go to step 1).

This is public record.

[snip more unintended praise of Uncle Al]

Your complaint is primarily about the inappropriateness of using insults
on Usenet. Physician: Heal thyself! (I know you're not a physician, but
you do have a penchant for practicing psychology without a license.)

P.S. Your post was off-topic. If you want to write an essay about the
evils of insults, post it elsewhere (but first forego the practice
yourself)!


--
There are two things you must never attempt to prove: the unprovable --
and the obvious.
--
Democracy: The triumph of popularity over principle.
--
http://www.crbond.com

James Harris wrote:

I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.
[snip]

http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html
http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html
http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html
http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html


Hey stooopid loud troll James Harris, put up or shut up,

http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/c...oring/faq.html
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/c...g/numbers.html
http://www.crank.net/harris.html
It's not every braying jackass that gets a whole page at crank.net
Is a $10,000 prize no questions asked too small to justify your
submission of two little prime numbers?


http://b5.sdvc.uwyo.edu/bab5/snds/argcstpd.wav
http://w0rli.home.att.net/youare.swf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm
(Do something naughty to physics)

James Harris wrote:
....
Some of you may think that I'm part of the problem as yes, I *do* at
times insult people, but mostly I challenge them.
....

I question your assertion that you challenge people
more than you insult them. Your posts so insult my
intelligence, and so challenge my credulity, I can
hardly say which predominates.
-jiw

"Uncle Al" wrote...
Hey stooopid loud troll James Harris, put up or shut up,

http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/c...oring/faq.html
It's not every braying jackass that gets a whole page at crank.net
Is a $10,000 prize no questions asked too small to justify your
submission of two little prime numbers?

James missed his chance at RSA-576. Maybe he'll wander off
and work on RSA-640 now.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/news/2003-12-05/rsa/

- Brian

Marc Olschok wrote in message ...
In sci.math James Harris wrote:
I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Your posts are sufficient.


Why?

[...]
But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

But this is hard work.
By insulting people day and night, he saves me from insulting people,
so I can try to keep the positive image of myself.


Well you just screwed up there Marc Olschok.

In any event, fostering an insulting environment doesn't help in the
long run.

For instance, Marc Olschok I could call you an idiot, especially given
your support of "Uncle Al", and I could proceed to track any posts you
make on sci.physics, and reply to them insulting you continually, but
what good would it do?

Well it might drive you off of Usenet.

Is that the kind of Usenet you want?

What I'm telling other readers is YES that IS the kind of Usenet that
people like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" want because they're not
civilized!

Now then, many of you might find it tolerable because you think of
yourself as part of the group, so it's "Us" against "Them".

But what do you really know of Marc Olschok or "Uncle Al"?

Why would you assume they're on your side?


Perhaps he is also working on the terrestrial version of the
universal insulting problem, described by Douglas Adams.
In this case it would be almost serious research.

Marc

Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get
heated even among adults.

But look at posters like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" and consider how
many of you would promote childish behavior, like repeated and
continual insults meant to silence others.

It's just not normal behavior.


James Harris

"James Harris" wrote in message
m...

How many of you are readers terrified of posting?

Are you talking to your imaginary friends again?
You know, to that silent crowd of friends, who believes you're right...

You're trying to convince them to start posting. Good luck.