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I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking. They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is that it fits into the theory that planets explode. That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet. Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it seems can't be easily explained any other way. If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size, which had Mars as a moon until it exploded. I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in size. One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost completely out of the blue, explode. James Harris |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ...
In sci.physics, James Harris wrote on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700 : (James Harris) wrote in message m... I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking. They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is that it fits into the theory that planets explode. That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet. Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it seems can't be easily explained any other way. Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets. And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory. Apparently, planets sometimes just explode. Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put into that theory? [rest snipped] The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and wiped out a lot of life. It's also possible that up to now that the earth has been volcanically active enough to release enough energy that it has not exploded. Note that mass extinctions theorized from the data have also been theorized to have been precipitated by extensive volcanic eruptions. Also my understanding is that the theory does not claim *all* planets explode or will explode, but it does note that previous planetary explosions give a good explanation for a lot of data. In physics there are theories. For scientists, it's just another theory, though it can be troubling. But that's science because even if people are troubled by something it can still be true! James Harris |
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(James Harris) wrote in message om...
The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ... In sci.physics, James Harris wrote on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700 : (James Harris) wrote in message m... I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking. They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is that it fits into the theory that planets explode. That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet. Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it seems can't be easily explained any other way. Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets. And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory. Apparently, planets sometimes just explode. Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put into that theory? [rest snipped] The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and wiped out a lot of life. It's also possible that up to now that the earth has been volcanically active enough to release enough energy that it has not exploded. Note that mass extinctions theorized from the data have also been theorized to have been precipitated by extensive volcanic eruptions. Also my understanding is that the theory does not claim *all* planets explode or will explode, but it does note that previous planetary explosions give a good explanation for a lot of data. In physics there are theories. For scientists, it's just another theory, though it can be troubling. But that's science because even if people are troubled by something it can still be true! James Harris I have never heard of a planet that was in orbit with Mars. However, there has long been speculation that the asteroid belt, between Mars and Jupiter, may be the remnants of a planet that once exploded. Bodes' Law gives a simple mathematical progression into which the distances of each planet from the Sun seem to fit. However, according to Bodes' Law, there should also be a planet between Mars and Jupiter, right where the asteroid belt is now. I cannot remember a good explanation as to why the planet might have exploded though. Double-A |
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"Double-A" wrote in message
om... (James Harris) wrote in message om... I have never heard of a planet that was in orbit with Mars. However, there has long been speculation that the asteroid belt, between Mars and Jupiter, may be the remnants of a planet that once exploded. Bodes' Law gives a simple mathematical progression into which the distances of each planet from the Sun seem to fit. However, according to Bodes' Law, there should also be a planet between Mars and Jupiter, right where the asteroid belt is now. I cannot remember a good explanation as to why the planet might have exploded though. I have two hypotheses on the subject. They cannot both be right! I put them here to invite further ideas: (a) There was a planet there, but it got hit by something that threw it out of its orbit. The asteroids are just the smaller fragments of the planet and/or the intruder. The two largest chunks are still with us, but are now on the fringes of the solar system. We know them as Pluto and Charon. (b) There never was a planet in the fifth Bode orbit. The asteroids in this orbit have survived because there is nothing bigger for them to crash into. |
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(Double-A) wrote in message . com...
(James Harris) wrote in message om... The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ... In sci.physics, James Harris wrote on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700 : (James Harris) wrote in message m... I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking. They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is that it fits into the theory that planets explode. That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet. Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it seems can't be easily explained any other way. Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets. And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory. Apparently, planets sometimes just explode. Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put into that theory? [rest snipped] The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and wiped out a lot of life. It's also possible that up to now that the earth has been volcanically active enough to release enough energy that it has not exploded. Note that mass extinctions theorized from the data have also been theorized to have been precipitated by extensive volcanic eruptions. Also my understanding is that the theory does not claim *all* planets explode or will explode, but it does note that previous planetary explosions give a good explanation for a lot of data. In physics there are theories. For scientists, it's just another theory, though it can be troubling. But that's science because even if people are troubled by something it can still be true! James Harris I have never heard of a planet that was in orbit with Mars. However, there has long been speculation that the asteroid belt, between Mars and Jupiter, may be the remnants of a planet that once exploded. Bodes' Law gives a simple mathematical progression into which the distances of each planet from the Sun seem to fit. However, according to Bodes' Law, there should also be a planet between Mars and Jupiter, right where the asteroid belt is now. I cannot remember a good explanation as to why the planet might have exploded though. Double-A There also should be no planet where Neptune is, and where Pluto is should be another planet, which is okay. Also, models of the solar system which track the formation of the planets predict a planet the size of Neptune around the orbit where Pluto is. Oh, yes, and has anyone figured out the mechanisms behind Bode's Law? (...Starblade Riven Darksquall...) |
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(James Harris) wrote in message om...
(James Harris) wrote in message m... I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking. They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is that it fits into the theory that planets explode. That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet. Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it seems can't be easily explained any other way. Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets. And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory. Apparently, planets sometimes just explode. If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size, which had Mars as a moon until it exploded. Something the size of earth could not have something the size of mars as its moon. Perhaps something about five times the size of Earth could, but certainly nothing Earth sized. I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in size. Now to me that's not a surprise. One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost completely out of the blue, explode. But you see, I'm sure you think you know that can't be because you're so special. But that's because of how you were programmed. LOL. Why do I have so much fun? James Harris Perhaps Earth's volcanic activity will prevent it from ever exploding. I surely hope that's the case. (...Starblade Riven Darksquall...) |
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(Starblade Darksquall) wrote in message . com...
(James Harris) wrote in message om... deleted Apparently, planets sometimes just explode. If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size, which had Mars as a moon until it exploded. Something the size of earth could not have something the size of mars as its moon. Perhaps something about five times the size of Earth could, but certainly nothing Earth sized. Couldn't two objects of roughly equal size orbit each other? Where do you get the 5 times figure? I'll admit to not being really up on what makes a stable orbit in our solar system so I'm really curious on elaboration. I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in size. Now to me that's not a surprise. One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost completely out of the blue, explode. deleted Perhaps Earth's volcanic activity will prevent it from ever exploding. I surely hope that's the case. (...Starblade Riven Darksquall...) Well I think that part of the theory is that stars explode as well. I think part of the idea is that movement through space actually heats up large bodies, and is part of the energy source for stars like our Sun. That is, fusion isn't providing all of the Sun's energy, and if the balance isn't preserved, our sun itself might one day, just explode. Um, maybe humanity should SERIOUSLY and diligently work at interstellar travel. James Harris |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ...
In sci.physics, James Harris deleted Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets. And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory. Apparently, planets sometimes just explode. Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put into that theory? [rest snipped] The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and wiped out a lot of life. Um...if Mars was orbiting a planet orbiting the Sun, and that planet exploded, wouldn't Mars be thrown into a more elliptical orbit? Also, where would the fragments go? Why? According to that guy I mentioned it basically disintegrated, though a lot coated Mars, which the evidence supports, and some of it descended upon the earth, and created a mass extinction roughly 3 million years ago. Also, the Mars-sized chunk is theorized to hit us well before biogenesis; the planet was still molten. (One of the results was our Moon.) Nope. I think you're talking of another theorized collision from way before what this guy is theorizing. My suggestion is to look at some of the recent data from Mars missions, as apparently there's a thick layer on one side of Mars that supports the theory. My understanding--which I say because I haven't checked thoroughly--is that there's a LOT of evidence to support this theory. So it seems that there's quite a bit of evidence that planets can just explode. Oh yeah, lest I forget, I'll remind that I've put forward the Pluto observations as possible further evidence, and yes, I'm kind of playing Devil's Advocate here because I think the theory is interesting, and not because I'm certain it's proven by the data. Notice that physics people can discuss intriguing theories without it disintegrating into a shouting match and insults. James Harris |
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