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Old July 10th 03 posted to sci.physics
James Harris
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I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.

If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size,
which had Mars as a moon until it exploded.

I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in
size.

One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost
completely out of the blue, explode.


James Harris
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Old July 11th 03 posted to sci.physics
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(James Harris) wrote in message m...
I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.


Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.

If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size,
which had Mars as a moon until it exploded.

I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in
size.


Now to me that's not a surprise.

One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost
completely out of the blue, explode.


But you see, I'm sure you think you know that can't be because you're
so special. But that's because of how you were programmed.

LOL.

Why do I have so much fun?


James Harris
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Old July 12th 03 posted to sci.physics
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In sci.physics, James Harris

wrote
on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700
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(James Harris) wrote in message
m...
I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.


Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.


Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put
into that theory?

[rest snipped]

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Old July 12th 03 posted to sci.physics
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ...
In sci.physics, James Harris

wrote
on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700
:
(James Harris) wrote in message
m...
I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.


Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.


Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put
into that theory?

[rest snipped]


The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited
around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass
extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous
amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and
wiped out a lot of life.

It's also possible that up to now that the earth has been volcanically
active enough to release enough energy that it has not exploded.

Note that mass extinctions theorized from the data have also been
theorized to have been precipitated by extensive volcanic eruptions.

Also my understanding is that the theory does not claim *all* planets
explode or will explode, but it does note that previous planetary
explosions give a good explanation for a lot of data.

In physics there are theories.

For scientists, it's just another theory, though it can be troubling.

But that's science because even if people are troubled by something it
can still be true!


James Harris
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Old July 12th 03 posted to sci.physics
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Default Pluto expansion, exploding planets

(James Harris) wrote in message om...
The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ...
In sci.physics, James Harris

wrote
on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700
:
(James Harris) wrote in message
m...
I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.

Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.


Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put
into that theory?

[rest snipped]


The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited
around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass
extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous
amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and
wiped out a lot of life.

It's also possible that up to now that the earth has been volcanically
active enough to release enough energy that it has not exploded.

Note that mass extinctions theorized from the data have also been
theorized to have been precipitated by extensive volcanic eruptions.

Also my understanding is that the theory does not claim *all* planets
explode or will explode, but it does note that previous planetary
explosions give a good explanation for a lot of data.

In physics there are theories.

For scientists, it's just another theory, though it can be troubling.

But that's science because even if people are troubled by something it
can still be true!


James Harris



I have never heard of a planet that was in orbit with Mars. However,
there has long been speculation that the asteroid belt, between Mars
and Jupiter, may be the remnants of a planet that once exploded.
Bodes' Law gives a simple mathematical progression into which the
distances of each planet from the Sun seem to fit. However, according
to Bodes' Law, there should also be a planet between Mars and Jupiter,
right where the asteroid belt is now.

I cannot remember a good explanation as to why the planet might have
exploded though.

Double-A
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Old July 13th 03 posted to sci.physics
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(James Harris) wrote in message om...
The Ghost In The Machine wrote in message ...
In sci.physics, James Harris

wrote
on 10 Jul 2003 17:11:57 -0700
:
(James Harris) wrote in message
m...
I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.

Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.

Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put
into that theory?

[rest snipped]


The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited
around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass
extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous
amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and
wiped out a lot of life.

It's also possible that up to now that the earth has been volcanically
active enough to release enough energy that it has not exploded.

Note that mass extinctions theorized from the data have also been
theorized to have been precipitated by extensive volcanic eruptions.

Also my understanding is that the theory does not claim *all* planets
explode or will explode, but it does note that previous planetary
explosions give a good explanation for a lot of data.

In physics there are theories.

For scientists, it's just another theory, though it can be troubling.

But that's science because even if people are troubled by something it
can still be true!


James Harris



I have never heard of a planet that was in orbit with Mars. However,
there has long been speculation that the asteroid belt, between Mars
and Jupiter, may be the remnants of a planet that once exploded.
Bodes' Law gives a simple mathematical progression into which the
distances of each planet from the Sun seem to fit. However, according
to Bodes' Law, there should also be a planet between Mars and Jupiter,
right where the asteroid belt is now.

I cannot remember a good explanation as to why the planet might have
exploded though.

Double-A


There also should be no planet where Neptune is, and where Pluto is
should be another planet, which is okay. Also, models of the solar
system which track the formation of the planets predict a planet the
size of Neptune around the orbit where Pluto is.

Oh, yes, and has anyone figured out the mechanisms behind Bode's Law?

(...Starblade Riven Darksquall...)
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(James Harris) wrote in message om...
(James Harris) wrote in message m...
I keep seeing headlines where scientists are surprised that Pluto's
atmosphere is warming and expanding instead of cooling and shrinking.

They say it may be a delay effect in terms of what should be happening
as Pluto moves further away from the sun, but the other explanation is
that it fits into the theory that planets explode.

That is, there's a physical mechanism by which travel through space
heats up planetary bodies, or there are hot cores to planets made up
of dense materials that physicists haven't gotten a handle on yet.

Some of you may know that of one physicist in particular who is a big
proponent of the exploding planets theory, who has been rather
successful in terms of some predictions with his theory, which it
seems can't be easily explained any other way.


Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.

If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size,
which had Mars as a moon until it exploded.


Something the size of earth could not have something the size of mars
as its moon. Perhaps something about five times the size of Earth
could, but certainly nothing Earth sized.

I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in
size.


Now to me that's not a surprise.

One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost
completely out of the blue, explode.


But you see, I'm sure you think you know that can't be because you're
so special. But that's because of how you were programmed.

LOL.

Why do I have so much fun?


James Harris


Perhaps Earth's volcanic activity will prevent it from ever exploding.
I surely hope that's the case.

(...Starblade Riven Darksquall...)
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Old July 13th 03 posted to sci.physics
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Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.

If he's correct, where Mars is, there was another planet earth size,
which had Mars as a moon until it exploded.


Something the size of earth could not have something the size of mars
as its moon. Perhaps something about five times the size of Earth
could, but certainly nothing Earth sized.


Couldn't two objects of roughly equal size orbit each other?

Where do you get the 5 times figure?

I'll admit to not being really up on what makes a stable orbit in our
solar system so I'm really curious on elaboration.

I read somewhere that the earth itself is inexplicably expanding in
size.


Now to me that's not a surprise.

One day then, if the theory is correct, the earth may simply, almost
completely out of the blue, explode.


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Perhaps Earth's volcanic activity will prevent it from ever exploding.
I surely hope that's the case.

(...Starblade Riven Darksquall...)


Well I think that part of the theory is that stars explode as well.

I think part of the idea is that movement through space actually heats
up large bodies, and is part of the energy source for stars like our
Sun.

That is, fusion isn't providing all of the Sun's energy, and if the
balance isn't preserved, our sun itself might one day, just explode.

Um, maybe humanity should SERIOUSLY and diligently work at
interstellar travel.


James Harris
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Oh wow that came out weird. It's supposed to be that there's this one
physicist who is well-known for talking about exploding planets.

And amazingly enough the evidence supports his theory.

Apparently, planets sometimes just explode.

Hm. Considering that we're still here how much credence can we put
into that theory?

[rest snipped]


The timing of the theorized explosion for the planet that Mars orbited
around coincides (if I'm to believe what I've read) with a mass
extinction on earth, as the explanation would be that a tremendous
amount of debris rained down with a lot of energy upon the earth, and
wiped out a lot of life.


Um...if Mars was orbiting a planet orbiting the Sun, and that planet
exploded, wouldn't Mars be thrown into a more elliptical orbit?
Also, where would the fragments go?


Why?

According to that guy I mentioned it basically disintegrated, though a
lot coated Mars, which the evidence supports, and some of it descended
upon the earth, and created a mass extinction roughly 3 million years
ago.

Also, the Mars-sized chunk is theorized to hit us well before
biogenesis; the planet was still molten. (One of the results
was our Moon.)


Nope. I think you're talking of another theorized collision from way
before what this guy is theorizing.

My suggestion is to look at some of the recent data from Mars
missions, as apparently there's a thick layer on one side of Mars that
supports the theory.

My understanding--which I say because I haven't checked thoroughly--is
that there's a LOT of evidence to support this theory.

So it seems that there's quite a bit of evidence that planets can just
explode.

Oh yeah, lest I forget, I'll remind that I've put forward the Pluto
observations as possible further evidence, and yes, I'm kind of
playing Devil's Advocate here because I think the theory is
interesting, and not because I'm certain it's proven by the data.

Notice that physics people can discuss intriguing theories without it
disintegrating into a shouting match and insults.


James Harris
 




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