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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:30:19 -0500, JohnBoy Knight wrote
Why would you LIE and claim that someone who knows the TRUTH about Hitler being a STUPID jew http://christianparty.net/hitler.htm , christianparty.nit is a parody of many internet sites which also demonstrate a psychotic mind crazed, apparently, by third stage syphilis or something closely related to it. and that his top Nazis were STUPID jews http://christianparty.net/nazi.htm would be a "Hitler loving" anything? And why don't you at least FIRST learn what a SEMITE is, so you can choose your slurs properly? This looks like typical jew rantings. Are you a member of the Christian race, then? I realize that you are in the worship of John Knight business but do you profess a common religion in the hope that you can suck them in? John Knight Criminal, pervert and poor writer. It's so tragic that John "lights out for" Knight couldn't have been born intelligent and not a sniviling coward. But little JohnBoy Knight will - in all liklihood - never be able to achieve the starus of a man. JohnBoy is locked into the "Boy 8usiness" and will always be a "boy toy" to whomever comes along. g |
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If you want to believe that Einstein is a hoax, you should read the
papers at http://www.savefile.com/projects/880850 Cary Kittrell wrote: In article (John Knight) writes: (David Thomas) wrote in message ... In article n0zKa.53570$1e.11555@fed1read04, writes: Perhaps you did not offfer proof that he broke posting rules. Absent that, they could not act. They are functioning under a contract with Mr. Retic, as are all ISPs with all of us. I did point out that the ISP he uses supposedly is cracking down on spam, and that his postings fall under their definition of such. They chose, as do most in power, inaction. It threatens their privilege less. The following is from http://christianparty.net/einsteinplagiarist.htm John Knight Albert Einstein Genius or Plagiarist {...} HOWEVER, THE TRUTH IS: HE STOLE THE IDEAS AND PLAGIARIZED THE PAPERS. Therefore, we will look at each of these ideas and discover the source of each. It should be remembered that these ideas are presented by Einstein's worshipers as totally new and completely different, each of which would change the landscape of science. These four papers dealt with the following four ideas, respectively: 1) The foundation of the photon theory of light; 2) The equivalence of energy and mass; 3) The explanation of Brownian motion in liquids; 4) The special theory of relativity. Let us first look at the last of these theories, the theory of relativity. This is perhaps the most famous idea falsely attributed to Einstein. Specifically, this 1905 paper dealt with what Einstein called the Special Theory of Relativity (the General Theory would come in 1915). This theory contradicted the traditional Newtonian mechanics and was based upon two premises: 1) in the absence of acceleration, the laws of nature are the same for all observers; and 2) since the speed of light is independent of the motion of its source, then the time interval between two events is longer for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur at different places than for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur in the same place. This is basically the idea that time passes more slowly as one's velocity approaches the speed of light, relative to slower velocities where time would pass faster. This theory has been validated by modern experiments and is the basis for modern physics. But these two premises are far from being originally Einstein's. FIRST OF ALL, THE IDEA THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT WAS A CONSTANT AND WAS INDEPENDENT OF THE MOTION OF ITS SOURCE WAS NOT EINSTEIN'S AT ALL, BUT WAS PROPOSED BY THE SCOTTISH SCIENTIST JAMES MAXWELL in 1878. Maxwell studied the phenomenon of light extensively and first proposed that it was electromagnetic in nature. James Maxwell wrote an article to this effect for the 1878 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica. His ideas prompted much debate, and by 1887, as a result of his work and the ensuing debate, the scientific community, particularly Lorentz, Michelson, and Morley reached the conclusion that the velocity of light was independent of the velocity of the observer. Thus, this piece of the Special Theory of Relativity was known 27 years before Einstein wrote his paper. This debate over the nature of light also led Michelson and Morley to conduct an important experiment, the results of which could not be explained by Newtonian mechanics. They observed a phenomenon caused by relativity but they did not understand relativity. They had attempted to detect the motion of the earth through ether, which was a medium thought to be necessary for the propagation of light. In response to this problem, in 1880, the irish physicist george fitz gerald, who had also first proposed a mechanism for producing radio waves, wrote a paper which stated that the results of the michelson-morley experiment could be explained if, "...the length of material bodies changes, according as they are moving through the either or across it by an amount depending on the square of the ratio of their velocities to that of light." THIS IS THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY, 13 YEARS BEFORE EINSTEIN'S PAPER! No, this is not the theory of relativity, nor would anyone with a high-school level understanding of the theory of relativity mistake it for the theory of relativity. This was a failed attempt to save the concept of the ether, sometimes "aether" (which your expert source mis-spells as "either") by proposing an ad-hoc formula . Einstein does nothing of the sort: he sets up three simple postulates (of which your "expert" got only one correct) -- and everything else falls out mathematically. Time dialation and compression of lengths are not "premises", they are derived. The famous "E=mc^2" is not something that Einstein plops in the middle of a page after having secretly filched it: he derives it from these three simple assumptions, derives it mathematically with the whole world watching and free to check his math. Saying that Einstein "stole" these results is exactly equivalent to saying that Pythagoras "stole" a^2 + b^2 = c^2 from the Egyptians. The Egyptians knew this empirically; Pythagoras proves mathematically why it must be so. Yes, bits and pieces of the results which appear in Einstein's 1905 paper -- but Einstein was the first one to show mathematically all of them -- and other interesting results as well -- MUST be so. But don't take my word for it. Here. See for your self: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ Read it. Digest it. Then we'll argue... -- cary |
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purrcy
If you want to believe that Einstein is a hoax, you should read the papers at http://www.savefile.com/projects/880850 You are replying to a three-year-plus old post of mine? Is this an example of marked relativistic time dilation? -- cary Cary Kittrell wrote: In article (John Knight) writes: (David Thomas) wrote in message ... In article n0zKa.53570$1e.11555@fed1read04, writes: Perhaps you did not offfer proof that he broke posting rules. Absent that, they could not act. They are functioning under a contract with Mr. Retic, as are all ISPs with all of us. I did point out that the ISP he uses supposedly is cracking down on spam, and that his postings fall under their definition of such. They chose, as do most in power, inaction. It threatens their privilege less. The following is from http://christianparty.net/einsteinplagiarist.htm John Knight Albert Einstein Genius or Plagiarist {...} HOWEVER, THE TRUTH IS: HE STOLE THE IDEAS AND PLAGIARIZED THE PAPERS. Therefore, we will look at each of these ideas and discover the source of each. It should be remembered that these ideas are presented by Einstein's worshipers as totally new and completely different, each of which would change the landscape of science. These four papers dealt with the following four ideas, respectively: 1) The foundation of the photon theory of light; 2) The equivalence of energy and mass; 3) The explanation of Brownian motion in liquids; 4) The special theory of relativity. Let us first look at the last of these theories, the theory of relativity. This is perhaps the most famous idea falsely attributed to Einstein. Specifically, this 1905 paper dealt with what Einstein called the Special Theory of Relativity (the General Theory would come in 1915). This theory contradicted the traditional Newtonian mechanics and was based upon two premises: 1) in the absence of acceleration, the laws of nature are the same for all observers; and 2) since the speed of light is independent of the motion of its source, then the time interval between two events is longer for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur at different places than for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur in the same place. This is basically the idea that time passes more slowly as one's velocity approaches the speed of light, relative to slower velocities where time would pass faster. This theory has been validated by modern experiments and is the basis for modern physics. But these two premises are far from being originally Einstein's. FIRST OF ALL, THE IDEA THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT WAS A CONSTANT AND WAS INDEPENDENT OF THE MOTION OF ITS SOURCE WAS NOT EINSTEIN'S AT ALL, BUT WAS PROPOSED BY THE SCOTTISH SCIENTIST JAMES MAXWELL in 1878. Maxwell studied the phenomenon of light extensively and first proposed that it was electromagnetic in nature. James Maxwell wrote an article to this effect for the 1878 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica. His ideas prompted much debate, and by 1887, as a result of his work and the ensuing debate, the scientific community, particularly Lorentz, Michelson, and Morley reached the conclusion that the velocity of light was independent of the velocity of the observer. Thus, this piece of the Special Theory of Relativity was known 27 years before Einstein wrote his paper. This debate over the nature of light also led Michelson and Morley to conduct an important experiment, the results of which could not be explained by Newtonian mechanics. They observed a phenomenon caused by relativity but they did not understand relativity. They had attempted to detect the motion of the earth through ether, which was a medium thought to be necessary for the propagation of light. In response to this problem, in 1880, the irish physicist george fitz gerald, who had also first proposed a mechanism for producing radio waves, wrote a paper which stated that the results of the michelson-morley experiment could be explained if, "...the length of material bodies changes, according as they are moving through the either or across it by an amount depending on the square of the ratio of their velocities to that of light." THIS IS THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY, 13 YEARS BEFORE EINSTEIN'S PAPER! No, this is not the theory of relativity, nor would anyone with a high-school level understanding of the theory of relativity mistake it for the theory of relativity. This was a failed attempt to save the concept of the ether, sometimes "aether" (which your expert source mis-spells as "either") by proposing an ad-hoc formula . Einstein does nothing of the sort: he sets up three simple postulates (of which your "expert" got only one correct) -- and everything else falls out mathematically. Time dialation and compression of lengths are not "premises", they are derived. The famous "E=mc^2" is not something that Einstein plops in the middle of a page after having secretly filched it: he derives it from these three simple assumptions, derives it mathematically with the whole world watching and free to check his math. Saying that Einstein "stole" these results is exactly equivalent to saying that Pythagoras "stole" a^2 + b^2 = c^2 from the Egyptians. The Egyptians knew this empirically; Pythagoras proves mathematically why it must be so. Yes, bits and pieces of the results which appear in Einstein's 1905 paper -- but Einstein was the first one to show mathematically all of them -- and other interesting results as well -- MUST be so. But don't take my word for it. Here. See for your self: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ Read it. Digest it. Then we'll argue... -- cary |
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"purrcy" wrote in message ... | If you want to believe that Einstein is a hoax, you should read the | papers at | | http://www.savefile.com/projects/880850 | If you want to believe Einstein's drool is not a hoax, you should read the page at http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ket/Rocket.htm Androcles |
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In article Bob LeChevalier writes:
(Cary Kittrell) wrote: purrcy If you want to believe that Einstein is a hoax, you should read the papers at http://www.savefile.com/projects/880850 You are replying to a three-year-plus old post of mine? Is this an example of marked relativistic time dilation? And he's replying with a link that has probably been dead for three years too. The link points to a page with a title and nothing more. Pity. I also bemoan the loss of the "Einstein Hoax" page John Knight used to have on his site. One paper said, basically, that Relativity was utter garbage, easily and thoroughly debunked...while the other paper said that Relativity was a major touchstone of physics, and was far too complex to have been worked out by the simple-minded Einstein, who stole it from his betters. John either 1) never read the papers, 2) didn't recognize the cognitive dissonance of playing the one off the other, and/or 3) didn't care, as long as both could be used for Jew-bashing. -- cary |
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:20:58 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article ): In article Bob LeChevalier writes: (Cary Kittrell) wrote: purrcy If you want to believe that Einstein is a hoax, you should read the papers at http://www.savefile.com/projects/880850 You are replying to a three-year-plus old post of mine? Is this an example of marked relativistic time dilation? And he's replying with a link that has probably been dead for three years too. The link points to a page with a title and nothing more. Pity. I also bemoan the loss He's b-a-a-a-c-c-c-k-k-k-k . . . of the "Einstein Hoax" page John Knight used to have on his site. http://christianparty.net/einstein.htm ++ gray One paper said, basically, that Relativity was utter garbage, easily and thoroughly debunked...while the other paper said that Relativity was a major touchstone of physics, and was far too complex to have been worked out by the simple-minded Einstein, who stole it from his betters. John either 1) never read the papers, 2) didn't recognize the cognitive dissonance of playing the one off the other, and/or 3) didn't care, as long as both could be used for Jew-bashing. -- cary |
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In article writes:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:20:58 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote (in article ): In article Bob LeChevalier writes: (Cary Kittrell) wrote: purrcy If you want to believe that Einstein is a hoax, you should read the papers at http://www.savefile.com/projects/880850 You are replying to a three-year-plus old post of mine? Is this an example of marked relativistic time dilation? And he's replying with a link that has probably been dead for three years too. The link points to a page with a title and nothing more. Pity. I also bemoan the loss He's b-a-a-a-c-c-c-k-k-k-k . . . of the "Einstein Hoax" page John Knight used to have on his site. http://christianparty.net/einstein.htm Ah, and the one paper I mentioned is in fact there -- the "Retic" paper, which spends a looong time saying "Relativity is a crock", along with the claim -- which I have corrected John repeatedly on -- that the Global Positioning System does not use relativistic corrections (it does). I only glanced through the rest (especially the aptly-named crank dot net page) but I'm delighted to see that John has not only preserved, but expanded on the mix of Einstein's work is garbage/no, great work, but he stole it citations. ++ gray One paper said, basically, that Relativity was utter garbage, easily and thoroughly debunked...while the other paper said that Relativity was a major touchstone of physics, and was far too complex to have been worked out by the simple-minded Einstein, who stole it from his betters. John either 1) never read the papers, 2) didn't recognize the cognitive dissonance of playing the one off the other, and/or 3) didn't care, as long as both could be used for Jew-bashing. -- cary |
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"Cary Kittrell" wrote in message ... You snipped. You were unable to respond to my argument. You are a boring ****wit. *plonk* Androcles |
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