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Hello:
If you are interested in my model of the aether, I have recently added to its web a new article called Dynamics (Section 12) saying that: - The main experimental features of the dynamics of highly relativistic particles (and in particular those of elastic collisions) can also be predicted in a natural way by an aether of aetherinos within Galilean relativity. The quantitative predictions are however not exactly the same as those of special relativity although according to my knowledge the differences are small enough to suspect that they have passed undetected in experiments. - The basic point of view is that the acceleration given to a body by a force F depends on the "absolute speed" of the body (i.e. on its speed relative to the aether) according to: a = F/m (1-u/c) where m = mass of the body u = absolute speed of the body relative to the aether c = speed of light in vacuum (the expression of the acceleration proposed is only one within a group of similar expressions that are natural predictions of the model. It is also the simplest but at its present stage the model is still open to other expressions with a qualitatively similar dependence on the absolute speed of the body). - In analogy to the description of mainstream Physics, two magnitudes can be defined and assigned to a particle, "absolute momentum" and "absolute kinetic energy", such that their respective sums are conserved in elastic interactions within closed systems. Those magnitudes are defined in relation to the (absolute) reference frame in which the aether can be considered at rest. Plausible expressions for these magnitudes a p = - m c Log[1-u/c] (modulus of the absolute momentum) K = - m c (u + c Log[1-u/c]) (absolute kinetic energy) where m = mass of the particle u = absolute speed of the particle relative to the aether c = speed of light in vacuum See more details at: http://personales.ya.com/carlosla/mo...2/Dynamics.htm Everyone familiar with fundamental Physics is of course encouraged to develop, test and correct this model of the aether within its basic paradigms (galilean relativity and aether of aetherinos). Best regards Carlos L. (remove the nonsense from the address) |
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Carlos L wrote:
Hello: If you are interested in my model of the aether, I have recently added to its web a new article called Dynamics (Section 12) saying that: Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished. Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could be said to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that sense, to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind of "aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever since, by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence that "gtr is an aether theory". Luminiferous Ether http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html http://www.google.com/search?q=aethe...aip.org+update Special Relativity http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...elativity.html http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...periments.html Crank Information http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ae...Awww.crank.net http://www.google.com/search?q=%22et...Awww.crank.net http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gr...hor%3Areticher |
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Carlos L wrote:
Hello: If you are interested in my model of the aether, I have recently added to its web a new article called Dynamics (Section 12) saying that: [snip] http://w0rli.home.att.net/youare.swf http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002) Phys. Rev. Lett. 90 060403 (2003) Phys. Rev. Lett. 42(9) 549 (1979) Phys. Bull. 21 255 (1970) Europhysics Lett. 56(2) 170 (2001) Gen. Rel. Grav. 34(9) 1371 (2002) plus Hipparcos star positions vs. ground data equal "no aether" to 12 decimal places. aetherinos within Galilean relativity a force F depends on the "absolute speed" of the body Ha ha ha. What a maroon. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net! |
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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
... | Carlos L wrote: | | Hello: | | If you are interested in my model of the aether, I have recently added | to its web a new article called Dynamics (Section 12) saying that: | | | | Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished. | | Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether | | Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some | injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could be said | to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that sense, | to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind of | "aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the | nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever since, | by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence that | "gtr is an aether theory". You need to read the link carefully that you posted. GR and SR do not rule out a medium which would have an undefined 'absolute rest frame'. All that is ruled out is classical notions of an ether that have a "defined" absolute rest frame. This is the 21st century. It is not the 19th or early 20th century. The uncertainty principle will rule out a "defined" absolute rest frame automatically. Plus the uncertainty principle also rules in a medium called the quantum vacuum. If you think that photons have intrinsic electromagnetic properties, you are just fooling yourself. Photons have momentum and a spin of one and that is all the intrinsic properties they have. Old Man has said this many times and I believe him. Free space EM properties come from the quantum vacuum, "the medium". Vacuum charge = +,- sqrt(hbar*c) in cgs units. Easy to see why the medium can be tossed out for most things, isn't it? However, it is much easier to explain how photons can "conspire" to make EM waves if the quantum vacuum is the source of free space EM. Do you think the uncertainty principle would let an electron and positron in slow annihilation completely disappear? Impossible. FrediFizzx |
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Uncle Al
equal "no aether" to 12 decimal places. You're the "maroon", Al. The "aether" is simply an old name for the quantum foam. Get with it. PS: Quantum Foam is real, and can be tapped. |
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"erincss" wrote in message
... | Uncle Al | | equal "no aether" to 12 | decimal places. | | You're the "maroon", Al. The "aether" is simply an old name for the quantum | foam. Get with it. PS: Quantum Foam is real, and can be tapped. Tapped for what? Maple syrup? Beer? Must be beer because of the foam. Quantum foamy beer. Yummy! Put a quantum head on that beer please. FrediFizzx |
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Sam Wormley wrote: erincss wrote: Uncle Al equal "no aether" to 12 decimal places. You're the "maroon", Al. The "aether" is simply an old name for the quantum foam. Get with it. PS: Quantum Foam is real, and can be tapped. tapped? Or taped, as in duct taped? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. |
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erincss wrote:
Uncle Al equal "no aether" to 12 decimal places. You're the "maroon", Al. The "aether" is simply an old name for the quantum foam. Get with it. PS: Quantum Foam is real, and can be tapped. tapped? |
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In message , writes
In article , Sam Wormley wrote: erincss wrote: Uncle Al equal "no aether" to 12 decimal places. You're the "maroon", Al. The "aether" is simply an old name for the quantum foam. Get with it. PS: Quantum Foam is real, and can be tapped. tapped? Or taped, as in duct taped? Or duck taped. Or gaffer taped... http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/duckvsduct.html But whatever else you do, never tap a gaffer. -- Richard Herring |
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