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Could Le Saga particles be used to communicate FTL?



 
 
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Old July 10th 03 posted to sci.physics
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Default Could Le Saga particles be used to communicate FTL?

On a sunny day (Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:12:59 -0700) it happened "greywolf42"
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Jan Panteltje wrote in message
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OK, there have been many FTL postings, some of these of cause not entirely
correct.
I will write this down because it is basically food for thought and

further
experiment.
Lets us do 2 assumptions for a moment:
1 Le Sage like particles exists, these move in straight lines.
2 These particles moves faster then light (this seems to be needed for

that
model to work perhaps?)


Yes. But not greatly so. If one assumes a standard Maxwellian aether, then
the average speed of the corpuscles is the determining speed of gravity. So
the speed of gravity would be sqrt(3) c. Slightly better, but not
significant for long-distance communication.

How do you arrive at sqrt(3) ?

{snip}

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Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:12:59 -0700) it happened "greywolf42"
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Jan Panteltje wrote in message
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OK, there have been many FTL postings, some of these of cause not entirely
correct.
I will write this down because it is basically food for thought and

further
experiment.
Lets us do 2 assumptions for a moment:
1 Le Sage like particles exists, these move in straight lines.
2 These particles moves faster then light (this seems to be needed for

that
model to work perhaps?)


Yes. But not greatly so. If one assumes a standard Maxwellian aether, then
the average speed of the corpuscles is the determining speed of gravity. So
the speed of gravity would be sqrt(3) c. Slightly better, but not
significant for long-distance communication.


How do you arrive at sqrt(3) ?


See page 15 of,

http://www.eas.purdue.edu/~calais/te...eismology1.pdf

Paul Stowe
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Old July 11th 03 posted to sci.physics
Jan Panteltje
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Default Could Le Saga particles be used to communicate FTL?

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:25:18 GMT) it happened
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In article ,
Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:12:59 -0700) it happened "greywolf42"
wrote in :


Jan Panteltje wrote in message
...
OK, there have been many FTL postings, some of these of cause not entirely
correct.
I will write this down because it is basically food for thought and
further
experiment.
Lets us do 2 assumptions for a moment:
1 Le Sage like particles exists, these move in straight lines.
2 These particles moves faster then light (this seems to be needed for
that
model to work perhaps?)

Yes. But not greatly so. If one assumes a standard Maxwellian aether, then
the average speed of the corpuscles is the determining speed of gravity. So
the speed of gravity would be sqrt(3) c. Slightly better, but not
significant for long-distance communication.


How do you arrive at sqrt(3) ?


See page 15 of,

http://www.eas.purdue.edu/~calais/te...eismology1.pdf

Paul Stowe

Hey, but that assigns a 'perfect elastic' solid to Le Saga's particles.
Now that is an assumption.
In fact I have not been able to visualize WHAT they are like.
Long time ago I got some many many times faster then C results...
Really not so sure about any of this stuff at the monent, is not
'perfectly elastic' a bit too simple?
Do they interact with themselves and how?
How (in what way) do they interact / couple to normal matter?
So many questions :-)
IF these at all exist of cause.
There could also be Le Saga's particles and a few other things as well
in the aether...
So what makes you believe 'perfectly elastic'?
Compexity usually linguers there lurking for you...

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Old July 12th 03 posted to sci.physics
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Jan Panteltje wrote in message
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On a sunny day (Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:12:59 -0700) it happened "greywolf42"
wrote in :


Jan Panteltje wrote in message
...
OK, there have been many FTL postings, some of these of cause not

entirely
correct.
I will write this down because it is basically food for thought and

further
experiment.
Lets us do 2 assumptions for a moment:
1 Le Sage like particles exists, these move in straight lines.
2 These particles moves faster then light (this seems to be needed for

that
model to work perhaps?)


Yes. But not greatly so. If one assumes a standard Maxwellian aether,

then
the average speed of the corpuscles is the determining speed of gravity.

So
the speed of gravity would be sqrt(3) c. Slightly better, but not
significant for long-distance communication.

How do you arrive at sqrt(3) ?


The sqrt(3) is standard for a perfect fluid. See any thermal physics
textbook.

greywolf42
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