From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

What is there may be Hyperspace (or whatever you want to
call it that doesn't include the Space/Time as we know it). Particles
(and their larger collective unit called atoms) are then vortexes in
Hyperspace that form the nature of our space and time. So in other
words... atoms, particles are what create our space as we know it,
and time. Without them, there is only Hyperspace and Intelligence
that in-form particles. The Universe is filled with particles. Just
imagine the zillions of neutrinos zapping your body every minute and
all of space. There is never a place in space without particles. So
we can't see Hyperspace. Also imagine the idea of what is at the
edge of the universe and beyond it. Or even the universe being
infinite. This boggles the mind, isn't it. What is there at infinity
may be Hyperspace that doesn't form space/time yet owing to their
having no atoms/particles that form the vortex which create our
space/time. What is your thought about infinity.

Now let's discuss about Consciousness. Many are aware that our
brain creates our physical consciousness and awareness. However,
consider this. Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence. So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. Implication is that, our consciousness is compatible
with our brain as well as Hyperspace/Intelligence so we can extend
ourselves by tapping into the Hyperspace/Intelligence. Makes sense,
isn't it?

For those who are looking for proof. Hmm.. Let's focus on the design
of the DNA and our biological body. As the site below shows.

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/mole...iology_15.html

There is just no way for their origin to just occur by chance. They
are designed. Read them carefully. Even James Watson, the co-discoverer
of the DNA believes this. Designed by whom? By the Intelligence
in the Hyperspace (Intelligence as pure Intelligence and not those
silly God of religions with personality and emotions)..

I've gotten the ideas above from different books I read and
slowly realized the connections and how they makes sense. So
I treat it as a serious possibility that can explain everything
including Qi. Why. Qi is non_local, it can interact with not just
the sun but also geometrical shapes (remember Hyperspace
design atoms so their collective forms have special qualities).
Qi can then be energetic manifestation (conscious energy)
of Hyperspace/Intelligence that is behind every particle and their
collective unit the atoms.

c

cinquirer:
From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

When you read enough physics books to tackle this as it relates
to physics, come back and post on this newsgroup. For now find
a nice newage newsgroup that gets into fluffy feel-good explanations
to scientific issues.

In article ,
(cinquirer) wrote:

[...] Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence.

Your assertions...

So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. [...]

.... do not support your conclusion. A classic Moronic bit of logic.

#
You intoned...

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From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?
and how would you measure it, as to try to would mean bringing in lots of
particles.!!!

What is there may be Hyperspace (or whatever you want to
call it that doesn't include the Space/Time as we know it). Particles
(and their larger collective unit called atoms) are then vortexes in
Hyperspace that form the nature of our space and time. So in other
words... atoms, particles are what create our space as we know it,
and time. Without them, there is only Hyperspace and Intelligence
that in-form particles.

And with what do they inform across this empty hyperspace?

The Universe is filled with particles. Just
imagine the zillions of neutrinos zapping your body every minute and
all of space. There is never a place in space without particles. So
we can't see Hyperspace.

But if it is empty, then there is nothing there to see.

Also imagine the idea of what is at the
edge of the universe and beyond it. Or even the universe being
infinite. This boggles the mind, isn't it.

Well, if there is truly nothing in this, then it does not exist and tus it
is not infinite, isn't it.. erm, yes.
What is there at infinity
may be Hyperspace that doesn't form space/time yet owing to their
having no atoms/particles that form the vortex which create our
space/time. What is your thought about infinity.

Infinity is very very big, but we can never know if infinity exists, as to
be able to measure it and declare it infinite, would infer that it must be
finite, and if we cannot measure it, we don't know if it is infinite or
not, it might be just very big indeed. and as I said, i have no conceptual
way of measuring nothingness, and there is no frame of reference, so the
nothing you are measuring might move a bit and you would not know. You
cannot see the edge, as to do so would involve there being something in the
empty space, ie, photons.


Now let's discuss about Consciousness. Many are aware that our
brain creates our physical consciousness and awareness. However,
consider this. Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence. So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. Implication is that, our consciousness is compatible
with our brain as well as Hyperspace/Intelligence so we can extend
ourselves by tapping into the Hyperspace/Intelligence. Makes sense,
isn't it?

What are you drinking, and can I have some...

For those who are looking for proof. Hmm.. Let's focus on the design
of the DNA and our biological body. As the site below shows.

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/mole...iology_15.html

There is just no way for their origin to just occur by chance. They
are designed. Read them carefully. Even James Watson, the co-discoverer
of the DNA believes this. Designed by whom? By the Intelligence
in the Hyperspace (Intelligence as pure Intelligence and not those
silly God of religions with personality and emotions)..

Ah, I see, but who designed the pure Inteligence.

I've gotten the ideas above from different books I read and
slowly realized the connections and how they makes sense. So
I treat it as a serious possibility that can explain everything
including Qi. Why. Qi is non_local, it can interact with not just
the sun but also geometrical shapes (remember Hyperspace
design atoms so their collective forms have special qualities).
Qi can then be energetic manifestation (conscious energy)
of Hyperspace/Intelligence that is behind every particle and their
collective unit the atoms.

Ah, I'd prefer to believe that in fact all of what we are and see is one
huge simulation.

c

Brian, my case comes up next week.


I'm all for free thinking though, and I'd be the last to discourage this.
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cinquirer wrote:
From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.


Let's not.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?


Vacuum. Retard. Hyperspace = space of dimension (n-1) imbedded in a
space of dimension n. c.f. hypersurface - submanifold.

Let me reiterate: you're a retard.

davidoff

[cinquirer]
Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

[The Void]
Clearly only the redirections of amicable vectors upon infra-etheric
structure forms through tunneling. Non-violent bifurcations are
implicit around the inter-externals of non-harmonious operators.
Socio-kinetic spinors infer the pandemonium moments between frivolous
mesons. The surreptitious parity into lugubrious neutrinos are
reconnecting for the pseudo-rarefication of insurgence in the state
vectors. These non-furious algorithms take on forms of resurgence and
re-formation, procuring into the super-helical structures of
stratification. The remaining ambient circulation entertains the
habituality fields of hyperspatial waves. Do personality pseudoscalars
detour regarding the non-polar circularity of circles in the agitated
spherical harmonics of pusillanimous interference, internalizing the
external internal pseudo-bicameral data structure across eminent
domains of hegemonious Green's functions?

(jjs) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(cinquirer) wrote:

[...] Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence.

Your assertions...

So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. [...]

... do not support your conclusion. A classic Moronic bit of logic.

Let me talk from actual experience. The head of humans have this
vortex like gateway (called the chakras in the east) that is
seen to be connected to higher space. This higher space with
memory unit may be the source of the so called past lives or soul
of a human being. Skilled seers can trace the pathway and directly
deal in the plane (or dimension?) of the soul. Others call it
Cyberspace. I call it Hyperspace for popularity sake. But I think
I'd better use other term to distinguish from the above. Maybe
Superspace? Hmm..

c

davidoff404 wrote in message ...
cinquirer wrote:
From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.


Let's not.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?


Vacuum. Retard. Hyperspace = space of dimension (n-1) imbedded in a
space of dimension n. c.f. hypersurface - submanifold.

Let me reiterate: you're a retard.

davidoff


Oh. Let me share Conforto's stuff. She believes particles are
mini-black holes connected to Cyberspace (her term... I just
use the word Hyperspace for popularity sake and it may be where
I did wrong). And someone has the mathematics that arrive at
similar conclusion. See www.freephysics.org

About Conforto. She stated:

""Human deception results even more evident, when the spatial form of
an event horizon is calculated, through Einstein's General Relativity;
its form depends on the geometry of matter composing a body and on its
gravity. For instance, the horizon of a spherical body is a sphere as
well.

According to physics, a closed event horizon defines a black hole. The
hole is "black", because a closed event horizon is like a spherical
shell woven by light beams wound up onto themselves and therefore
unable to reach the far off observer, who doesn't receive any luminous
signal from it.

A closed event horizon is not a rare case, but just a trivial one.
Elementary particles (Chap. 2) which compose all the observed bodies
of the universe are mini black holes. This is the main scientific
discovery, formerly suggested by superluminal theories... TOE (Theory
of Everything)........ that explains why we do live in a platonic
cave, where we don't observe the true reality, but just its faint
shadows. Mini black holes reveal our millenary illusion.

As they are so minute, elementary particles have very small event
horizons which each generate a strongly curved spacetime, as
Einstein's equations show. Hidden, inside the minute closed horizon, a
new, unsuspected inner world is revealing itself.... which connects
all the particles of the universe in "real time, showing their
intrinsic and instantaneous oneness.

As I have already mentioned, physics hasn't realized that the event
horizon is not a chaotic ball of light beams, but a lightscreen where
images are focused. Elementary particles are mini monitors of the
supercosmic cyberspace; monitors, that are quite different from the
man-made ones which connect to Internet though. Natural mini monitors
are in four dimensions, 4D, that is in three spatial dimensions and
one time dimension: they can move and be organized by the Information
flowing through cyberspace.

The images of the event horizon are actually bodies of light, or
better dynamic holograms. Bodies of 1ight generate order within the
physical matter around them. This fact was partially recognized by S.
Hawking, who discovered that an event horizon is a source of order. He
proved it mathematically and showed that a black hole increases
syntropy, that is the order of the particles which surround it. In
other words, a black hole organizes physical forms.

At the cold temperatures of planet Earth, atoms come into play as
"indivisible" entities. Although they are composed of elementary
particles, they also have a global function, as the ancient Greek
scientist, Democritus, advanced in his times. Atoms are peculiar
terminals, monitors able to pick up peculiar messages, that flow
through cyberspace.

This is the very secret of mother matter its infinite structures are
all terminals: the more complex they are, the higher quality the
Information they can receive from cyberspace is: the simplest is the
hydrogen atom, followed by the whole series of chemical elements,
whose event horizons probably coincide with their outer electronic
shells, able to link to each other, to form molecules, crystals,
minerals, cells, etc.

Through atoms, distant and apparently distinct physical bodies may be
organized. On the event horizon of each atom, the whole image of a
body is contained, like a hologram. All the atomic event horizons
compose themselves in one global event horizon of the whole body,
forming a 4D hologram or a body of light. It is the body of light
which generates the formal appearance of every body; it actually
in-forms its physical form, i.e. organizes surrounding atoms, in order
to let them compose a physical body."

Uncle Al wrote in message ...
cinquirer wrote:

From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

Zero point fluctuations of the quantum vacuum. About 10^91 g/cm^3
(positive exponent). Look up "stochastic electrodynamics."

What is there may be Hyperspace
[snip further bull****]

BTW, leptons have no volume. They are point particles.

Maybe, but quarks are said not to be the ultimate particle.
Superstrings Theory state the String may be the ultimate particle.
However. I'm looking at the theory among Superstring Theories
that state the string is not the ultimate particle. But is
composed of something else. Other researchers theorize that
that something else are bubbles or vortex in a Superspace (replacing
the word Hyperspace as I couldn't think of others when I wrote
it).

c

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ...
#
You intoned...


free thinking is good. Contemplate on the following poem by Blake:

"To see a world in a grain of sand,
and heaven in a wild flower
Infinity in the palm of your hand
and eternity in an hour." -- Blake

c










From: "cinquirer"
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Subj ect: Hyperspace inside each particle?


From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?
and how would you measure it, as to try to would mean bringing in lots of
particles.!!!

What is there may be Hyperspace (or whatever you want to
call it that doesn't include the Space/Time as we know it). Particles
(and their larger collective unit called atoms) are then vortexes in
Hyperspace that form the nature of our space and time. So in other
words... atoms, particles are what create our space as we know it,
and time. Without them, there is only Hyperspace and Intelligence
that in-form particles.

And with what do they inform across this empty hyperspace?

The Universe is filled with particles. Just
imagine the zillions of neutrinos zapping your body every minute and
all of space. There is never a place in space without particles. So
we can't see Hyperspace.

But if it is empty, then there is nothing there to see.

Also imagine the idea of what is at the
edge of the universe and beyond it. Or even the universe being
infinite. This boggles the mind, isn't it.

Well, if there is truly nothing in this, then it does not exist and tus it
is not infinite, isn't it.. erm, yes.
What is there at infinity
may be Hyperspace that doesn't form space/time yet owing to their
having no atoms/particles that form the vortex which create our
space/time. What is your thought about infinity.

Infinity is very very big, but we can never know if infinity exists, as to
be able to measure it and declare it infinite, would infer that it must be
finite, and if we cannot measure it, we don't know if it is infinite or
not, it might be just very big indeed. and as I said, i have no conceptual
way of measuring nothingness, and there is no frame of reference, so the
nothing you are measuring might move a bit and you would not know. You
cannot see the edge, as to do so would involve there being something in the
empty space, ie, photons.


Now let's discuss about Consciousness. Many are aware that our
brain creates our physical consciousness and awareness. However,
consider this. Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence. So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. Implication is that, our consciousness is compatible
with our brain as well as Hyperspace/Intelligence so we can extend
ourselves by tapping into the Hyperspace/Intelligence. Makes sense,
isn't it?

What are you drinking, and can I have some...

For those who are looking for proof. Hmm.. Let's focus on the design
of the DNA and our biological body. As the site below shows.

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/mole...iology_15.html

There is just no way for their origin to just occur by chance. They
are designed. Read them carefully. Even James Watson, the co-discoverer
of the DNA believes this. Designed by whom? By the Intelligence
in the Hyperspace (Intelligence as pure Intelligence and not those
silly God of religions with personality and emotions)..

Ah, I see, but who designed the pure Inteligence.

I've gotten the ideas above from different books I read and
slowly realized the connections and how they makes sense. So
I treat it as a serious possibility that can explain everything
including Qi. Why. Qi is non_local, it can interact with not just
the sun but also geometrical shapes (remember Hyperspace
design atoms so their collective forms have special qualities).
Qi can then be energetic manifestation (conscious energy)
of Hyperspace/Intelligence that is behind every particle and their
collective unit the atoms.

Ah, I'd prefer to believe that in fact all of what we are and see is one
huge simulation.

c

Brian, my case comes up next week.


I'm all for free thinking though, and I'd be the last to discourage this.
Brian Gaff....
graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
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