I'm interested in the relation between space and time.
I'd like to discuss with persons involved in this group.

chenmou wrote:

I'm interested in the relation between space and time.
I'd like to discuss with persons involved in this group.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22re...ce+and+time%22
http://www.physicsguy.com/ftl/html/F...ml#sec:whatstd

"chenmou" wrote in message
om...
I'm interested in the relation between space and time.
I'd like to discuss with persons involved in this group.

All physical properties are referenced to TIME PERIODS.

Events associated with a single body
that correlate (Auto-correlations),
are called time periods.

Divers time periods are extant in the universe,
and the most stable ones are used as CLOCKS.

A clock is simply the time period used
for a particular quantization
of another time period (A time),
or a time interval (A space),
or other physical properties as noted below.

Events associated with two bodies
that correlate (Cross-correlations),
are called time intervals..

Spaces are TIME INTERVALS,
and are quantized using some standard time period,
which is called a clock.

For fine resolution of spaces,
fast "ticking" clocks are used

Masses are composites of times and spaces,
as shown by Kepler's Equation.

mass(A) * G = (C*time interval)^3 / time period^2

Dividing both sides by C^3 we have:

mass(A) * G /C^3 = time interval(B)^3 / time period(common)^2

Note that G / C^3 is a universal time per mass constant,
and that the time period of a system
(Such as the Sun/Earth system)
is common to both bodies.

As can be seen,
the time equivalence of a mass can be expressed as:

time equivalent(Mass A) = time interval(Mass B)^3 / time period(Common)^2

"C" is a constant that is used to differentiate between time periods (True
times)
and time intervals (True spaces).

"G" is a constant that is used to differentiate between a body perceived to
be fix in media, from a body perceived to be varying in media (Time and
space).

Note that in the Sun/Earth system,
the Earth is perceived to be varying in media,
and it gets the 365.25 days, and the 93,000,000 miles,
whereas the Sun is perceived to be fixed in media,
and it gets the "G" so the equation will balance.

When you see the constant "G",
you know that a body perceived to be fixed in media
is involved.

For details on this, visit my web site,
and download the physics tutorial.

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us

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Tom Potter wrote:

"chenmou" wrote in message
om...
I'm interested in the relation between space and time.
I'd like to discuss with persons involved in this group.

All physical properties are referenced to TIME PERIODS.

Events associated with a single body
that correlate (Auto-correlations),
are called time periods.

Divers time periods are extant in the universe,
and the most stable ones are used as CLOCKS.

A clock is simply the time period used
for a particular quantization
of another time period (A time),
or a time interval (A space),
or other physical properties as noted below.

Events associated with two bodies
that correlate (Cross-correlations),
are called time intervals..

Spaces are TIME INTERVALS,
and are quantized using some standard time period,
which is called a clock.

For fine resolution of spaces,
fast "ticking" clocks are used

Masses are composites of times and spaces,
as shown by Kepler's Equation.

mass(A) * G = (C*time interval)^3 / time period^2

Dividing both sides by C^3 we have:

mass(A) * G /C^3 = time interval(B)^3 / time period(common)^2

Note that G / C^3 is a universal time per mass constant,
and that the time period of a system
(Such as the Sun/Earth system)
is common to both bodies.

As can be seen,
the time equivalence of a mass can be expressed as:

time equivalent(Mass A) = time interval(Mass B)^3 / time period(Common)^2

"C" is a constant that is used to differentiate between time periods (True
times)
and time intervals (True spaces).

"G" is a constant that is used to differentiate between a body perceived to
be fix in media, from a body perceived to be varying in media (Time and
space).

Note that in the Sun/Earth system,
the Earth is perceived to be varying in media,
and it gets the 365.25 days, and the 93,000,000 miles,
whereas the Sun is perceived to be fixed in media,
and it gets the "G" so the equation will balance.

When you see the constant "G",
you know that a body perceived to be fixed in media
is involved.

For details on this, visit my web site,
and download the physics tutorial.



Ahahahhahhahhahhhahah, Potter, what a bunch of horse ****!

chenmou wrote:

I'm interested in the relation between space and time.
I'd like to discuss with persons involved in this group.

http://fourmilab.to/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/sr/ae_1905_error.htm

http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-05-09/mot/index.html

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http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-05-09/mot/index.html

Refering to derivation in the web site above, were the time invariants
on t-x coordinates obtained from the result of Lorentz formula?

I liked Tom Potter's discussion, but regarding G;

Newton's formula Fg=GMm/r^2 is quite wrong inside of a gravitating body, or
else the force becomes infinite as r tends to zero, even inside of a light
gravitating body, such as a baseball.

Einstein's GR and the principle of equivalence are also quite disasterously
wrong, particularly inside of a gravitating body, so what good is it? The SR
insight that with invariant c, every length can be expressed in terms of light
travel time, and therefore all motion of matter in space becomes so much
dimensionless proportional nonsense: time/unit time.

It's becoming clear that the universe we know is inside of a hyper black hole,
that all of time and space, "spacetime", if you like, mass, and energy, the
speed of light and in particular gravity itself are all a consequence of the
properties of this enclosed universe. It has in inner event horizon, which as
Hawking has intuited, takes literally forever to fall into, akin to what
happens when falling into the outer event horizon of a black hole. The
universe accellerates as it expands. This is probably why that happens. The
gamma ray bursts are the acretion of matter/energy at the edges of the inner
event horizon, and occasionally, an event will occur that spews more
mass/energy into the center of the void, most likely due to the acretion of
something on the "outside", which we can never know.

There's more, but you don't want to know...

"Danshawen" wrote in message
...
I liked Tom Potter's discussion, but regarding G;

Newton's formula Fg=GMm/r^2 is quite wrong inside of a gravitating body,
or
else the force becomes infinite as r tends to zero, even inside of a light
gravitating body, such as a baseball.

Einstein's GR and the principle of equivalence are also quite
disasterously
wrong, particularly inside of a gravitating body, so what good is it? The
SR
insight that with invariant c, every length can be expressed in terms of
light
travel time, and therefore all motion of matter in space becomes so much
dimensionless proportional nonsense: time/unit time.

It's becoming clear that the universe we know is inside of a hyper black
hole,
that all of time and space, "spacetime", if you like, mass, and energy,
the
speed of light and in particular gravity itself are all a consequence of
the
properties of this enclosed universe. It has in inner event horizon,
which as
Hawking has intuited, takes literally forever to fall into, akin to what
happens when falling into the outer event horizon of a black hole. The
universe accellerates as it expands. This is probably why that happens.
The
gamma ray bursts are the acretion of matter/energy at the edges of the
inner
event horizon, and occasionally, an event will occur that spews more
mass/energy into the center of the void, most likely due to the acretion
of
something on the "outside", which we can never know.

There's more, but you don't want to know...

If you visit my web site,
and download the physics tutorial,
you will see that there are TWO spaces, NOT one,
involved in an interaction, and that
"Newton's formula Fg=GMm/r^2"
only has ONE space ("r").

As can be seen by tossing a bolas into the air,
two bodies interact about a common point,
in a common time (The time period of the system.).

The use of ONE space leads to several errors,
that have to be corrected by resorting to such
unnecessary concepts as "reduced mass".

The force at the "common point" tends toward a balance,
rather than toward infinity as it does in Newton's
and Einstein's Black Hole physics.

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us

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===============

On 21 Nov 2003 01:52:39 GMT, (Danshawen) wrote:

I liked Tom Potter's discussion, but regarding G;

Newton's formula Fg=GMm/r^2 is quite wrong inside of a gravitating body, or
else the force becomes infinite as r tends to zero, even inside of a light
gravitating body, such as a baseball.


Correct, but in general, you need to apply Gauss's law to a classical
gravitational problem to solve it correctly, just as in
electrostatics.

Einstein's GR and the principle of equivalence are also quite disasterously
wrong, particularly inside of a gravitating body, so what good is it?

You need to look up the interior Schwarzchild solution.


SR
insight that with invariant c, every length can be expressed in terms of light
travel time, and therefore all motion of matter in space becomes so much
dimensionless proportional nonsense: time/unit time.

But there is a difference between coordinate time and proper time.
You might want to look it up sometime.

Sam Wormley wrote in message ...
Tom Potter wrote:

"chenmou" wrote in message
om...
I'm interested in the relation between space and time.
I'd like to discuss with persons involved in this group.

All physical properties are referenced to TIME PERIODS.

Events associated with a single body
that correlate (Auto-correlations),
are called time periods.

Divers time periods are extant in the universe,
and the most stable ones are used as CLOCKS.

A clock is simply the time period used
for a particular quantization
of another time period (A time),
or a time interval (A space),
or other physical properties as noted below.

Events associated with two bodies
that correlate (Cross-correlations),
are called time intervals..

Spaces are TIME INTERVALS,
and are quantized using some standard time period,
which is called a clock.

For fine resolution of spaces,
fast "ticking" clocks are used

Masses are composites of times and spaces,
as shown by Kepler's Equation.

mass(A) * G = (C*time interval)^3 / time period^2

Dividing both sides by C^3 we have:

mass(A) * G /C^3 = time interval(B)^3 / time period(common)^2

Note that G / C^3 is a universal time per mass constant,
and that the time period of a system
(Such as the Sun/Earth system)
is common to both bodies.

As can be seen,
the time equivalence of a mass can be expressed as:

time equivalent(Mass A) = time interval(Mass B)^3 / time period(Common)^2

"C" is a constant that is used to differentiate between time periods (True
times)
and time intervals (True spaces).

"G" is a constant that is used to differentiate between a body perceived to
be fix in media, from a body perceived to be varying in media (Time and
space).

Note that in the Sun/Earth system,
the Earth is perceived to be varying in media,
and it gets the 365.25 days, and the 93,000,000 miles,
whereas the Sun is perceived to be fixed in media,
and it gets the "G" so the equation will balance.

When you see the constant "G",
you know that a body perceived to be fixed in media
is involved.

For details on this, visit my web site,
and download the physics tutorial.

Ahahahhahhahhahhhahah, Potter, what a bunch of horse ****!

Has anyone ever noticed
that rational, intelligent folks
engage in rational, intelligent dichotomies,
focusing on the subtle poinst involved,
and that immature, dishonest phonies,
who don't really uinderstand subtle points
rely on insults, ball park references,
and pretense, in order to try to stroke their egos,
and to portray that they are intelligent and knowledgeable?

I dare say that intelligent people know this,
but that less intelligent people do not,
and thus cannot see what signals they are
sending out to intelligent, folks.

But maybe, as they relate only to low intelligent,
and immature people, this is the only audience they
can communicate with, so they have to go with what the have.

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us

=============
WHO instigates conflict and war for power and wealth?
WHO instigated the class wars of the 1900's?
WHO is instigating the religious wars of the 2000's?
WHO has a well organized propoganda machine?
WHO gang attacks all who expose their agenda and methods?

Visit my web site, and download the world's best physics tutorial!
==============