amanda replied:
I have been biting my tongue about the IQ test but I can't any more.

How reliable is a test that use the term "Asian" to represent the most
diverse of ethnic and cultural groups?

Are you Asian?

Rich

Uncle Al wrote:

Better that they should have been killed at
birth or trained into being something useful.


And I suppose you were solving diffrential equations at birth ?

"Greg Neill" wrote in message ...
"amanda" wrote in message
om...
I have been biting my tongue about the IQ test but I can't any more.

How reliable is a test that use the term "Asian" to represent the most
diverse of ethnic and cultural groups?

[off-topic crapsnip]

Apparently you've just failed another test -- the one
that measures your ability to choose suitable newgroups
for a given topic, and vice versa.

Or may be math, physics, and chemistry are the subjects Amanda got her C-'s. :-)

(amanda) writes:

Why are people using the racist IQ tests as God's given ruler to
measure intlligence?

Probably for the same reason that people feel the need to generalize
about all IQ tests.

The only surprising thing about this post was that you didn't also
cross-post it to alt.flame, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, and a dozen other
unrelated newsgroups.

Doug

"amanda" wrote in message
om...
not all Asians are equal. And the
Japanese thinks (may be not so much anymore)
they are superior to all other Asians.

AHahahhaah.....ahahahaha.....easy babe, easy. This is a
hilarious chapter in the annals of human behavior.....

Serious Japanese insistence about their superiority reaches
back into the mist of time.........ever since the two peoples
diverged. According to the Japanese there was that Japanese
Princess who ****ed with and got impregnated by a monkey.
Their offspring became the m/patriarch of all the Chinese
to come.............meanwhile on the Asian mainland the lore
of yore insists that in the grey mist of time there existed a
horny Chinese Princess that ****ed with and got impregnated
by a monkey. Their off spring became the m/patriarch of
all the Japanese to come.............Meanwhile back in those
times of bygone wonders the Jewish proboscis superiority
was established by their claim to be God's chosen people,
to which the Pope's and his troops later on objected to
and retorted that God had given this torch to Jesus and his
Xian Church was the superior gig now, which left the Yiddles
in the dust.
So, while in the West the good folks established exclusive
superiority over others by telling their God(s) what to do, the
much more practically inclined Asians achieved the same goal
by the insistence on some gross bestiality, a threat that was
suffiecnt for them to get to the top of the pecking order.
Ain't it a wonderful world..........AHhahahahaha.....ahahaahnson

PS: somebody bring forth such lores about other cultures'
orginal attempts and explanations which were needed to give
them their raison d'etre at the top.

"Martin Hogbin" wrote in message ...
"amanda" wrote in message om...
I have been biting my tongue about the IQ test but I can't any more.

Which IQ test is this?

Whichever one people were referrign to in sci.chem, sci.phy, and
sci.math.

I never checked into the those tetss. All I heard about IQ test is
from the media when that book "bell curve" came out and from people
using the term "Asian".


Martin Hogbin

(Porky Pig Jr) wrote in message . com...
"Greg Neill" wrote in message ...
"amanda" wrote in message
om...
I have been biting my tongue about the IQ test but I can't any more.

How reliable is a test that use the term "Asian" to represent the most
diverse of ethnic and cultural groups?

[off-topic crapsnip]

Apparently you've just failed another test -- the one
that measures your ability to choose suitable newgroups
for a given topic, and vice versa.

Or may be math, physics, and chemistry are the subjects Amanda got her C-'s. :-)


I was referring to people mentioning IQ tests in discussion about
determinging intelligence of different race in all these 3 groups.
But, how could you possibly realized that? After all, you got "F" in
all these 3 subjects.

Rich wrote in message ...
amanda replied:
I have been biting my tongue about the IQ test but I can't any more.

How reliable is a test that use the term "Asian" to represent the most
diverse of ethnic and cultural groups?

Are you Asian?


Yes. Not oriental though but grew up in that region.

Rich

In sci.chem Uncle Al wrote:

: Nope. You favor the excellent and tolerate the mediocre. Success and
: failure are not indistinguishable.

Well, it's pretty obvious to us which side of that line *you're* on.
For how many years have you been promising us kg-sized diamonds? Considering
that you cannot even figure out how to post to usenet, it doesn't come as
a big surprise to me that you are a failure in the more important things
in life, e.g., being able to tell the difference between the truth and a lie.


-----
Richard Schultz
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
". . . for while he was not dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter."
-- James Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_

In article , says...

I have been biting my tongue about the IQ test but I can't any more.

How reliable is a test that use the term "Asian" to represent the most
diverse of ethnic and cultural groups?

If you want to know more about the diversity, ask me and I will give
you tons of specific examples. Here is one: An example of cultural
differences (that affects their educational goals) of the two groups -
ethnically the same and speak the same EXACT langauge - in Burma who
are the descendants of the people who came to Burma from a town known
as Surat, India during the British colonial days.

Now, do not assume that they are racially the same as the majority of
northern Indian population, i.e Indo-Aryan. What I am aware of is that
they are descendants of those who came from Central Asia (to india)
and may be MIXED with the locals of India (I haven't checked into
that) like the majority of the current day Pakistanis.

See the complexity yet?

Add to that the Afghans, particularly the Pathan, which also form a
comunity in Burma.

And then you have all these different native groups in Burma, namely
Burman, Mon, Shan, Karen, Kachin, Chin, etc. where the Karen with a
good size Christian population now claiming that they are one of the
lost tribes.

The Mon are the first group who adopted Bhuddism which made them the
most literate group *in the old old days* through the monastry
education. Shans are the stauch Bhuddists too. I read somewhere on
the Internet that Mon originated from ancient India. They look like
typical oriental though some have darker skin while others are very
light-skinned) instead of the dravidians of ancient Inida.

Shan is ethincally similar to some groups in Thialand from the area
that borders Burma. Talking about Thailand, not all Thias are
ethincally the same.

Now, the Chinese would claim that the high score of IQ tests is
because of them Chinese, i.e not all Asians are equal. And the
Japanese thinks (may be not so much anymore) they are superior to all
other Asians.

Does that term *Asian* include the Arabs?

What about the people of Egypt (I avoid calling them Egyptians to
differentiate from the ancient Egyptians) some of whom are Arabs, some
of whom are descendants of anciant Egyptians, some are descendnats of
a group called Berber (my spellig may be wrong).

And how many Ethiopians look or act like a typical African.

Why are people using the racist IQ tests as God's given ruler to
measure intlligence?


http://metropolis.japantoday.com/tok...nt/feature.asp

In the off chance you are interested in whether or not the Japanese
people came through the star gate or whether they crashed and
are decended from the ones who crashed in China, I am inclined
to believe that they came through the stargate. But that does not
detract from the Chinese who have equal right to be here.

We aren't going to change anything at this point.

I have seen on the net, some very Japanese looking ET's
and one in particular that looked very Japanese. But for the
most part, the ones with the large cranium, look more
Chinese. They are scientists as far as I know. The ones
that were here last year were an advanced race. They beamed
my son home from school if you can image that. At lunch time.
The really odd thing about it was, that for about 20 minutes after,
his eyes were slanted down. Then his appearance returned to normal.

His conscious self didn't know anything about it. I think he just
assumed he walked home.

At the time a bunch of us had been discussing the future as per
The 5th Element. And I was arguing for rejuvenation machines.

Seems silly I know. But no more silly than this...

http://www.rense.com/general41/flying.htm
or
this...
http://dbarkertv.com/UPDATE.htm

As I understand it, this is a reptoid ship.

Were the ones who arrived first, and notified the glactic government,
after Hiroshima, distant relatives of the Japanese people?

That is a nice notion, is it not?

Ignore the stupid pictures of the alien autopsy.

Some humans are very sick mentally and spiritually. Those are the
kind of people who make mock ups like that to hide their own evil
deeds and to take advantage of their fellow man.

Thats the price we pay for freedom. We have to tolerate some people
who truly should not be allowed to exist.

So what is wrong with the Japanese people?

They are still suffering from the old, how could God, allow this
to happen?

That is a very good question.

That will undoubtedly be answered one day.

But take it from me, there is nothing wrong with the Japanese people.

They are beautiful people.

And do have a very valid inherent right to be here.

But try to think of people as individuals, not as a race.

Do not ask what is wrong with Japanese people, say what is wrong with
some human beings. You cannot blame a victim for a crime.

And the answer again, is the price of freedom.

The freedom to be bad as well as good, makes people free.

That does not however mean, there are no consequences for
people's actions.

Be thankful for your good nature. That is a blessing. Some may
see that as a weakness, but then they usually find out the
hard way, that there is only one true power in the universe.
Trying to compete with him, is a very silly idea that will
only lead to misery.

What Japan has to offer humanity, is invaluable to the future
of mankind.

So don't go changing. :-)

-*-