If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?

Henri Wilson.

Read all about my H-aether theory and see the funny side of relativity:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm

Henri Wilson wrote:

If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?


Yeah... a little less that 3K now, but in the past it was higher.

See Frequently Asked Questions in Cosmology, Henri
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

Some Scientifically Inaccurate Claims Concerning Cosmology and Relativity
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/Stolmar_Errors.html

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:14:58 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?


Yeah... a little less that 3K now, but in the past it was higher.

Why is it the about the same everywhere?


See Frequently Asked Questions in Cosmology, Henri
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

Some Scientifically Inaccurate Claims Concerning Cosmology and Relativity
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/Stolmar_Errors.html


Henri Wilson.

See the funny side of relativity:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.


The copper will come to thermal equilibrium with the backgroud radiation.
That is to say that the rate of thermal radiation which is emitted as black
body radiation will be the same as the rate at which the body absorbs the
thermal radiation. The CMBR has a distribution which is nearly identical to
a black body radiation. It's for that reason that the final temp will be 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?

What are you refering to? What is crap about it?

Pmb

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:14:58 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final
temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?


Yeah... a little less that 3K now, but in the past it was higher.

Why is it the about the same everywhere?


It isn't. If you put the thing in space about 93000000 miles from the sun,
it will be much warmer.

Mark Folsom

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:03:27 -0700, "Mark Folsom"
wrote:

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:14:58 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final
temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?


Yeah... a little less that 3K now, but in the past it was higher.

Why is it the about the same everywhere?


It isn't. If you put the thing in space about 93000000 miles from the sun,
it will be much warmer.

There is an awful lot of space between stars.
I reckon it averages 3K.

Big Bang, Big BULL!!


Mark Folsom



Henri Wilson.

See the funny side of relativity:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:20:50 GMT, "Pmb" wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.


The copper will come to thermal equilibrium with the backgroud radiation.
That is to say that the rate of thermal radiation which is emitted as black
body radiation will be the same as the rate at which the body absorbs the
thermal radiation. The CMBR has a distribution which is nearly identical to
a black body radiation. It's for that reason that the final temp will be 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?

What are you refering to? What is crap about it?

Pmb


Obviously the small amount of matter that exists in space has a temperature.
That temp averages 3K.

The CMBR has nothing whatsoever to do with any bloody 'expansion of the
universe'. It is just black body radiation from all the cold matter out there.


Henri Wilson.

See the funny side of relativity:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. a écrit dans le message de
news
The CMBR has nothing whatsoever to do with any bloody 'expansion of the
universe'. It is just black body radiation from all the cold matter out
there.


And how does all this matter have got its temperature from ???

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:03:27 -0700, "Mark Folsom"
wrote:

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:14:58 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final
temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?


Yeah... a little less that 3K now, but in the past it was higher.

Why is it the about the same everywhere?


It isn't. If you put the thing in space about 93000000 miles from the sun,
it will be much warmer.

There is an awful lot of space between stars.
I reckon it averages 3K.

Big Bang, Big BULL!!

Big Logic, Big BULL!
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...LogicBull.html

Henri Wilson

Big Ralph, Big BULL!
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...ULLfighter.jpg

Dirk Vdm

"Mark Folsom" wrote in message
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"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:14:58 GMT, Sam Wormley
wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

If I take a copper sphere into deep space, what be its final
temperature?
There isn't much out there but it still has a temperature.

My guess is about 3K.

So why all this CMBR/BB crap?


Yeah... a little less that 3K now, but in the past it was higher.

Why is it the about the same everywhere?


It isn't. If you put the thing in space about 93000000 miles from the
sun,
it will be much warmer.

Quite true - I was ignoring the sun and considering only CMBR - from the
sound of his post that's what he sounded like he was interested in. When the
sun is included then the temp can get huge on one side while at the same
time freezing on the other side.

Pmb