On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 03:19 PM, bronzadam wrote:

On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 04:18 PM, bronzadam wrote:

"Jack, how would you explain experiments where turbulent flow change
into laminar flow after modulating a negatively charged airfoil?"

Contrary to popular rumor I am not God. Heisenberg, as I recall, said he
would ask God two questions when he died and went to Heaven (or maybe
Hell). I forget first question, but the second was "How do you explain
turbulence?". Heisenberg was sure God could not answer the second question.


"You also get coherence by damping down. Is the zero point field
chaotic in your view?"

Yes

"It seems you give some answers to my questions regarding turbulence
control by modulated high-voltage plasma fields here."

I was not intending to.

"Changing turbulent to laminar flow is negative entropy production."

I suppose that's right.

"Cool, I haven't thought about the relation to time anomaly in those
turbulence control experiments."

Neither have I. Maybe you have germ of a good idea. But I don't know.


"You write below somewhe "This b(x) is analogous to metastable
decaying on-mass-shell "plasmons" in the many-electron "jellium"
model of Bohm and Pines et-al out of the macro-quantum ODLRO long-
range "Pribram hologram" coherent ground state."

This is very interesting to me. I think by modulating high voltage
fields I produced plasmons or collective modes in the plasma field.
Sometimes I really had the strange feeling that this silly Eppler
E338 airfoil was interacting with what I had in mind regarding the
experiment. I think it was Dr. Hal Aspden who published a paper
regarding memory effects in spin field experiments. Maybe the answers
to my silly questions are in your theory."

A journey to the center of the virtual negative energy Dirac-Fermi Sea
of the unstable globally flat Minkowski space-time vacuum.

Lp^2 = hG(Newton)/c^3 ~ 10^-66 cm^2 ~ 1 bit of the World Hologram

Lp*^2 = Lp^4/3L^2/3

There is, I guess, a kind of Gaussian interference of the Feynman
histories for the parallel worlds.

G*(L) ~ G(Newton) + (c^3/h)Lp^4/3L^2/3e^-{L - Lp*[(c/Ho)]}^2/Lp*(L)^2

G*(L) limits to G(Newton) as both L - Lp and as L - c/Ho which is a
kind of IR - UV M-theory duality R - 1/R around

Lp*(c/Ho) ~ 1 fermi or the 1 Gev energy scale.

You are talking real on-mass-shell plasmas say around an airfoil. That
is not relevant to warp drive in a vacuum. Also above I am talking about
the mental field in the living body using "plasmons" only by analogy as
a well known "collective mode" in a well-studied many body problem. For
UFO "flying saucer" warp drive you can think of the residual exotic
vacuum zero point energy density ~ (c^4/G*(L))/\zpf(x,L) (metric
signature +1,-1,-1,-1) as mostly a virtual off-mass-shell ionized
virtual electron-positron plasma in a small Heisenberg uncertainty width
~ h/Lp*(L) of momentum space around the Dirac sea boundary of the Ef = 0
, pf = h/Lp. As you go deep into the Dirac-Fermi sphere you get to E ~
-hc/Lp and p ~ Hoh/c where Ho is the cosmological Hubble scale of the
universe.

Could you excite Prof. Kleinert to look to plasmon based turbulence
control experiments??

Berkant

Jack wrote in response to Dick:

If so, and if this always results in a time anomaly then there
might be a very intimate relation between time anomalies and
information (or entropy) anomalies. Fits well with my intuition
based upon empirical
data.

Dick

Yes, I think now we are collectively well on the way to breaking the
Enigma Cosmic Code to the understanding of the relation of non-
occult mainstream physics to mind and consciousness.

Here to review are the key points.

1. Human mind and its inner consciousness qualia, the moments of
unitary "binding" awareness in our stream of consciousness, are
typical excited holographic "collective modes" of an effective
Frohlich-type electric-dipole boson field b(x). This b(x) is
analogous to metastable decaying on-mass-shell "plasmons" in the many-
electron "jellium" model of Bohm and Pines et-al out of the macro-
quantum ODLRO long-range "Pribram hologram" coherent ground state
|G, i.e. macro-quantum excited states like b*(x)|G or even most
likely Glauber-squeezed superpositions of b*^n(x)|G summed over n.
We have here a complex open non-equilibrium pumped system whose macro-
quantum ground state |G is the sub-conscious mind that is a macro-
quantum computer of ~ 10^18 qubits capacity.

2. The material support of the conscious mind, the "word", in
the "warm wet brain", the "flesh", in Bohm and Hiley's "two-way
relation" of post-quantum "action-reaction" between Wheeler's "BIT"
and "IT", is at least the entire brain, if not the entire body, if
not the entire "Body Politic" as in Thomas Hobbes's "Leviathan", as
in Hegel's "Geist" or "World Spirit" and I.J. Good's "GOD(D)", Sir
Fred Hoyle's "Black Cloud", Olaf Stapledon's "Star Maker",
Hawking's "Mind of God" because of "presponse" "signal nonlocality"
in violation of micro-quantum theory.

3. The relatively lower entropy of "superfluid" |G compared to the
"normal" ground state |g, with ODLRO coherence = 0, allows for the
creation of new surprising order. The ODLRO macro-quantum order
parameter PSI(x) is mathematically identical to the UN-ENTANGLED
micro-quantum "single-particle wave function" psi(x), where x in both
cases is in ordinary 4D spacetime not in 3ND + 1 configuration space
based on slicing into spacelike surfaces. However, as shown by
Princeton Physics Professor P.W. Anderson in his "More is different"
series of papers collected in "A Career in Theoretical Physics"
(World) the physical meaning is different and the dynamical equation
of motion is "nonlinear" i.e. of Landau-Ginzburg type. Hence Gisin's
and Weinberg's arguments, that any nonlinear single-particle
Schrodinger equation has signal nonlocality apply here. The
ODLRO "Bose-Einstein condensate" (AKS "BEC") means an uncertain large
number N of single particles (real or virtual no matter) all collapse
into the same single particle micro-quantum state psi(x), i.e.

PSI(x) ~ Npsi(x)

Where both |PSI(x)|^2 and |psi(x)|^2 are normalized to 1/Volume since
N is dimensionless number as e.g. in my two-fluid Tiza vacuum formula

/\zpf(x,L) = Lp(L)*^2[1 - Lp(L)*^3|PSI(x,L)|^2]

Lp*(L) = Lp^2/3L^1/3 Lenny Susskind's "World Hologram" equation.

Lp^2 = hG(Newton)/c^3

h = Planck's quantum of dynamical action

c = speed of light in equilibrium non-exotic non-gravitating vacuum

Note that Lp*(cosmological Hubble radius of entire universe) = 1
fermi
~ classical radius of the electron of rest mass ~ 0.5 Mev and also
the Compton wavelength of nucleons of rest mass ~ 1 Gev with hadronic
resonance Regge string universal slope ~ (1Gev)^-2 with spin J of
hadronic string resonance ~ (1Gev)^-2(Mc^2)^2 .

This means a universally strong short-range Abdus Salam/Andrei
Sakharov kind of effective zero point energy density induced "metric
elasticity" of Hagen Kleinert's "world crystal Planck lattice"
gravity exotic vacuum dark matter co

/\zpf(lepto-quark) ~ -Lp*(Hubble cosmology)^-2

stabilizing all the lepto-quarks which all have rest masses m M ~
scale of mostly confined kinetic energy Ekin/c^2 nucleon mass of 1
Gev/c^2 ~ 10^2 lepto-quark masses. This agrees with the "bag model"
of strong force "QCD-Lite" (Frank Wilczek's term).

Note that the hadronic Regge string slope is

Alpha'(hadron) ~ [(hc)^2/\zpf(Hubble cosmology)]^-1

PSI(x,L) = 0(L)|e+(x)e-(x)|0(L) = |Higgs Exotic Vacuum
Field(x,L)|e^i(Coherent Goldstone Phase Field)

Therefore,

/\zpf(x,L) = Lp*(L)^-2[1 - Lp*(l)^3|Higgs Exotic Vacuum Field(x,L)|^2]

m(lepto-quark) ~ (e/c)^2|/\zpf(Hubble cosmology dark matter core)|^1/2

That is, the cosmological Hubble Higgs vacuum field provides the rest
mass of the lepto-quarks if we use Lenny Susskind's "World Hologram"
scaling flow idea together with Hagen Kleinert's "World Crystal
Lattice" and my own version of the Bohm pilot equation for "metric
elasticity"

du(x,L) = Lp*(L)^2(Goldstone Phase),u = World Crystal Goldstone
"phonon" distortion field in 4D

,u = partial derivative in spacetime

Einstein's geometrodynamic field for gravity is then the World
Crystal
elastic strain tensor with gravity as disclination defect density in
the infrared effective ODLRO c-number macro-quantum field theory of
our
"classical" curved spacetime, i.e.

guv(x,L) = Globally Flat Minkowski Metric + (1/2)[du(x,L),v + dv
(x,L),u]

Torsion dislocation fields would come from anholonomic
non-integrability in the non-vanishing of the mixed second order
ordinary partial derivatives i.e.

du(x,L),v - dv(x,L),u =/= 0

Einstein's local Diff(4) symmetric geometrodynamic field equation
with
the exotic vacuum Higgs zero point vacuum field correction is then

Guv(x,L) + /\zpf(x,L)guv(x,L) = -[8piG*(L)/c^4]Tuv(x,L)

with a self-consistent "two-way" "action-reaction" Diff(4) symmetric
nonlinear single-particle Landau-Ginzburg local field equation for
macro-quantum vacuum PSI(x).

Note

G*(Hubble) ~ G(Newton)

but

G*(hadron) ~ (c^3/h)Lp*^2(Hubble) G(Newton)

This can also be reinterpreted as large extra space dimensions in
hyperspace models.


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