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Old October 3rd 03 posted to sci.physics
mattsdad2
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Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions, why do most
theories adhere to trying to define physics with many spatial
dimensions, but only one time dimension. It appears to me that having
more than one orthognal time dimensions would solve a lot of the
complications.

So why does everyone stick to one time dimension?
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Old October 3rd 03 posted to sci.physics
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"mattsdad2" wrote in message
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Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions, why do most
theories adhere to trying to define physics with many spatial
dimensions, but only one time dimension. It appears to me that having
more than one orthognal time dimensions would solve a lot of the
complications.

So why does everyone stick to one time dimension?


Exactly what problems are you talking about, and exactly why do you think
two temporal dimensions can solve them. Calculations please.

davidoff


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Old October 3rd 03 posted to sci.physics
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Default Space and Time dimensions

"mattsdad2" wrote in message
om...
Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions, why do most
theories adhere to trying to define physics with many spatial
dimensions, but only one time dimension. It appears to me that having
more than one orthognal time dimensions would solve a lot of the
complications.

So why does everyone stick to one time dimension?


Have a read of C.S.Lewis' unfinished novel "The Dark Tower" to read of a
world where multiple time dimensions are familiar.


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Old October 3rd 03 posted to sci.physics
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Default Space and Time dimensions

mattsdad2 wrote:

Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions,


Noooo... The dimension of space is length (e.g., meters) and the
dimension of time is time (e.g., seconds). If you want a consistent
basis, you need ct (c=lightspeed) to make the time dimension length
(e.g., (seconds)(meters/second)=meters).

why do most
theories adhere to trying to define physics with many spatial
dimensions, but only one time dimension. It appears to me that having
more than one orthognal time dimensions would solve a lot of the
complications.

So why does everyone stick to one time dimension?


Heinlein "Number of the Beast." Classical gravitation field theory
(e.g., General Relativity) is the maximally simple self-consistent
geometry that gets the job done. No prediction has been contradicted
by observation, no observation is not already within theory,

http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140
GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7
http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume4/2001-4will/index.html
Experimental constraints on General Relativity.
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0308010
Nature 425 374 (2003)
http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/index.html
http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf
Relativity in the GPS system

Name one "problem" that would be solved with more than one time
dimension - and how said "problem" would be so solved.

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Old October 4th 03 posted to sci.physics
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"mattsdad2" wrote in message om...
Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions,


Only morons consider time as a physical dimension at all.
Humans with non brainwashed heads actually have found out clocks
have faults and time (in science) does not change rate.
Time only changes rate in SciFi crap theories that work great for
the next SciFi movie or series.


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Old October 4th 03 posted to sci.physics
Gregory L. Hansen
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Default Space and Time dimensions

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mattsdad2 wrote:
Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions, why do most
theories adhere to trying to define physics with many spatial
dimensions, but only one time dimension. It appears to me that having
more than one orthognal time dimensions would solve a lot of the
complications.

So why does everyone stick to one time dimension?


They're not equivalent. You can see that right in the metric, where time
is given the opposite sign as the spatial dimensions. Also different is
the measurement of them, and that a massive particle must always go
forward in time regardless of the coordinate system, although a coordinate
system can be chosen to make a particle in any state of motion at rest.

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Old October 4th 03 posted to sci.physics
Uncle Al
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Spaceman wrote:

"mattsdad2" wrote in message om...
Since space and time are considered equivalent dimensions,


Only morons consider time as a physical dimension at all.
Humans with non brainwashed heads actually have found out clocks
have faults and time (in science) does not change rate.
Time only changes rate in SciFi crap theories that work great for
the next SciFi movie or series.


Does it burn, stooopid Space****, does it burn?

1) Where is the clock in the Mossbauer effect, Space****?
hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/mossb.html

2) Fill in the following (the first one is mercy humped):

(+1)(+1) = +1
(-1)(+1) = ?
(+1)(-1) = ?
(-1)(-1) = ?

http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
Clock for Space****
http://bkocay.cs.umanitoba.ca/Students/Theory.html
The distorted cube
http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/spaceman
Space**** emulator
http://www.hep.upenn.edu/~max/toe.html
Chew on it
http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/maths/spctime.htm
http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/Fields2.pdf

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Old October 6th 03 posted to sci.physics
Spaceman
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Default Space and Time dimensions


"Uncle Al" wrote in message ...
Does it burn, stooopid Space****, does it burn?


Still can't spell of copy correctly huh Uncle Albert?


1) Where is the clock in the Mossbauer effect, Space****?


I have told you moron,
It is the resonance tick tock you ding dong.

I'm so sorry, Uncle Albert,
I'm so sorry that I cause you so much pain.
I'm so sorry Uncle Albert,
But you really should find another brain.

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Spaceman


 




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