Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.

HERE- a classical model for a molecule:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/iwin4.GIF

John

ma1ibu wrote:
Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.



John, why are you being stooopid? What's in it for you?

The gravitation from "dark matter" is evident on larger scales of
galactic rotation and galactic cluster dynamics--documented for decades.

The paper "Particle Dark Matter: Evidence, Candidates and Constraints"
is a review of what we know and don't know.
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0404175

In this review article, we discuss the current status of particle
dark matter, including experimental evidence and theoretical
motivations. We discuss a wide array of candidates for particle
dark matter, but focus on neutralinos in models of supersymmetry
and Kaluza-Klein dark matter in models of universal extra dimensions.
We devote much of our attention to direct and indirect detection
techniques, the constraints placed by these experiments and the
reach of future experimental efforts.

These mysteries are what science is all about!

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:41:39 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

ma1ibu wrote:
Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.



John, why are you being stooopid? What's in it for you?

Mirror, Mirror...

The gravitation from "dark matter" is evident on larger scales of
galactic rotation and galactic cluster dynamics--documented for decades.

Could just as well be invisible little Blue Faries... You CAN"T!
measure them in any controlled experiment. As Malibu points out,
it is purely an imagined AD HOC proposal! There exist NO evidence
for its existence EXCEPT to save GR, period! Let us know when they
have a way of actually collecting & measuring it! I'll not hold
my breath...

Paul Stowe

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
news:TYeTf.37685$oL.26479@attbi_s71...
ma1ibu wrote:
Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.

John, why are you being stooopid? What's in it for you?


He has no choice in the matter. Years of selective (in)breeding have
produced him.

ma1ibu wrote:
Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.

HERE- a classical model for a molecule:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/iwin4.GIF

I cannot think of a more classic example of "stupid".


John

Aetherist wrote:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:41:39 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:


ma1ibu wrote:

Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.



John, why are you being stooopid? What's in it for you?


Mirror, Mirror...


The gravitation from "dark matter" is evident on larger scales of
galactic rotation and galactic cluster dynamics--documented for decades.


Could just as well be invisible little Blue Faries... You CAN"T!
measure them in any controlled experiment. As Malibu points out,
it is purely an imagined AD HOC proposal! There exist NO evidence
for its existence EXCEPT to save GR, period! Let us know when they
have a way of actually collecting & measuring it! I'll not hold
my breath...

Paul Stowe

Thanks for the enlightenment Paul!

ma1ibu wrote:
What can I compare this to?
Talk about stoooopidity!

Galactic rotation curves proved that suck gravity
is wrong.

Dork matter is a bandaid.....no, a different
kind of coverup- a smokescreen.

Popping in, popping out, wormholes,
Alice-in-wonderland stuff.

What are you guys on?
Maybe you need some different drugs.

John
Galaxy Model for the Atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john



You would be happy with a Newtonian description of
everything... and just ignore the cracks and
contradictions. You could even be happy with two
explanations for the moving bar magnet and coil
problem, depending on which was moving.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:58:56 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

Aetherist wrote:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:41:39 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:


ma1ibu wrote:

Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.

John, why are you being stooopid? What's in it for you?

Mirror, Mirror...

The gravitation from "dark matter" is evident on larger scales of
galactic rotation and galactic cluster dynamics--documented for decades.

Could just as well be invisible little Blue Faries... You CAN"T!
measure them in any controlled experiment. As Malibu points out,
it is purely an imagined AD HOC proposal! There exist NO evidence
for its existence EXCEPT to save GR, period! Let us know when they
have a way of actually collecting & measuring it! I'll not hold
my breath...

Paul Stowe

Thanks for the enlightenment Paul!

If only it could/would 'enlighten' you Sam... Sadly, a donkey will
fly on their own accord before that will happen. But, the fact
remains, Dark Matter & Energy are just as much ad hoc band-aids as
Lorentz's proposed contraction was for the aether.

Paul Stowe

Aetherist wrote:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:58:56 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:


Aetherist wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:41:39 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:



ma1ibu wrote:


Who the Hell is in charge of our Science?
We're probably the laughingstock of the galaxy.
Someone has to be deliberately dumbing us down.


John, why are you being stooopid? What's in it for you?


Mirror, Mirror...


The gravitation from "dark matter" is evident on larger scales of
galactic rotation and galactic cluster dynamics--documented for decades.


Could just as well be invisible little Blue Faries... You CAN"T!
measure them in any controlled experiment. As Malibu points out,
it is purely an imagined AD HOC proposal! There exist NO evidence
for its existence EXCEPT to save GR, period! Let us know when they
have a way of actually collecting & measuring it! I'll not hold
my breath...

Paul Stowe


Thanks for the enlightenment Paul!


If only it could/would 'enlighten' you Sam... Sadly, a donkey will
fly on their own accord before that will happen. But, the fact
remains, Dark Matter & Energy are just as much ad hoc band-aids as
Lorentz's proposed contraction was for the aether.

Paul Stowe

Sounds like bad hindsight (on your part) to me, Paul. However,
since I think, neither of us will change each other's mind,
there is little point in airing the arguments here again.

Have a good day.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:00:02 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

Aetherist wrote:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:58:56 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:

[Snip...]

The gravitation from "dark matter" is evident on larger scales
of galactic rotation and galactic cluster dynamics--documented
for decades.

Could just as well be invisible little Blue Faries... You CAN"T!
measure them in any controlled experiment. As Malibu points out,
it is purely an imagined AD HOC proposal! There exist NO
evidence for its existence EXCEPT to save GR, period! Let us
know when they have a way of actually collecting & measuring it!
I'll not hold my breath...

Thanks for the enlightenment Paul!

If only it could/would 'enlighten' you Sam... Sadly, a donkey
will fly on its own accord before that will happen. But, the
fact remains, Dark Matter & Energy are just as much ad hoc
band-aids as Lorentz's proposed contraction was for the aether.

Sounds like bad hindsight (on your part) to me, Paul.

Actually it's a FACT!, there is no hindsight. Tell us Sam, why
did Fitzgerald and then Lorentz proposed a contraction of gamma
in the direction of motion? Then, show us the difference in the
proposeal of Dark Matter.

However, since I think, neither of us will change each
other's mind, there is little point in airing the arguments
here again.

Oh Sam, I'm quite willing to change my mind. All one has to do
is point out the experiment that has detected, collected, and
weighed some Dark Matter. Barring that, simply demonstrate the
difference for the proposal of Dark Matter and Fitzgerald/Lorentz's
for the contraction. Hindsight has nothing to do with anything
here.

Paul Stowe

Have a good day.

I will...

Paul Stowe