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No future where light has already passed at the speed of light?



 
 
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Old March 18th 06 posted to sci.physics
G. L. Bradford
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Default No future where light has already passed at the speed of light?

We told there is just one universal arrow of time, a line of space-time
extending from the Big Bang to here and now wherever that may be. Yet we are
also told we do not travel in space-time either at the speed of light or
faster than the speed of light. Which has to place us right now, right here,
in the past in space-time, somewhere far behind time in space-time according
to the arrow of time and the statement that nothing can travel at the speed
of light (except light) nor faster than the speed of light. The speed of
light is of course always on time in space-time: Must be the leading edge of
space-time (the absolute tip of the tip of the arrow of time).

Therefore time must have already passed us by. About fourteen billion
years worth of time having already passed us by. Passed us by and fast
gaining on us in that passing in space-time at the speed of light.

Since it has already passed us by, exactly where in space-time is it?
Exactly where would the future be now in space-time relative to us (since it
has passed us by)? Or is there no future to where in the universe light has
already passed traveling at the speed of light? Since its leading edge is
the tip of the universal -- so-called -- arrow of time (the tip being all
there is to that universal arrow of time as well)?

The future, then, has to be out and away from each and every point or
center of the universe. Out and away from each and every Big Bang center of
the universe, that is....exactly where Stephen Hawking, in his "A Brief
History of Time," placed the [past tense] (effectively placing eternity and
saying just that without saying the word).

Therefore there isn't much of a future, if any future at all, to any
single center of the universe, since it is all out and away in the universe
from each and every (Big Bang) center of the universe (each and every
entropic center of the universe). Meaning that there are many more universes
than just one universe; many more arrows of time than just one arrow of
time; many more pasts than just one past; and many more futures than just
one future.

This is for only those who can really think and think deeply. For those
can really comprehend and read between the lines as well as read the lines:

There never was really much of a past, if any, to the Big Bang. Therefore
there was never was really much of a future, if any, to that same Big Bang.
There continues to be not much of a past, if any, nor much of a future, if
any, to the Big Bang. Each and every point of the universe is the center of
the universe, the Big Bang point and/or center of the universe. The
[frontier] past is all else-where, else-when. Therefore the [frontier]
future is all else-where, else-when.

GLB


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Old March 18th 06 posted to sci.physics
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Default No future where light has already passed at the speed of light?


G. L. Bradford wrote:
We told there is just one universal arrow of time, a line of space-time
extending from the Big Bang to here and now wherever that may be. Yet we are
also told we do not travel in space-time either at the speed of light or
faster than the speed of light. Which has to place us right now, right here,
in the past in space-time, somewhere far behind time in space-time according
to the arrow of time and the statement that nothing can travel at the speed
of light (except light) nor faster than the speed of light. The speed of
light is of course always on time in space-time: Must be the leading edge of
space-time (the absolute tip of the tip of the arrow of time).

Therefore time must have already passed us by. About fourteen billion
years worth of time having already passed us by. Passed us by and fast
gaining on us in that passing in space-time at the speed of light.

Since it has already passed us by, exactly where in space-time is it?
Exactly where would the future be now in space-time relative to us (since it
has passed us by)? Or is there no future to where in the universe light has
already passed traveling at the speed of light? Since its leading edge is
the tip of the universal -- so-called -- arrow of time (the tip being all
there is to that universal arrow of time as well)?

The future, then, has to be out and away from each and every point or
center of the universe. Out and away from each and every Big Bang center of
the universe, that is....exactly where Stephen Hawking, in his "A Brief
History of Time," placed the [past tense] (effectively placing eternity and
saying just that without saying the word).

Therefore there isn't much of a future, if any future at all, to any
single center of the universe, since it is all out and away in the universe
from each and every (Big Bang) center of the universe (each and every
entropic center of the universe). Meaning that there are many more universes
than just one universe; many more arrows of time than just one arrow of
time; many more pasts than just one past; and many more futures than just
one future.

This is for only those who can really think and think deeply. For those
can really comprehend and read between the lines as well as read the lines:

There never was really much of a past, if any, to the Big Bang. Therefore
there was never was really much of a future, if any, to that same Big Bang.
There continues to be not much of a past, if any, nor much of a future, if
any, to the Big Bang. Each and every point of the universe is the center of
the universe, the Big Bang point and/or center of the universe. The
[frontier] past is all else-where, else-when. Therefore the [frontier]
future is all else-where, else-when.

GLB


Lately. I've been contemplating the higher purpose of the Big
Bang. If its ultimate purpose is to evolve intelligence (human
being part of it), then why would it take 13.7 billion years. Why
so long. Unless 13.7 billion years is just a flash or breath away.
I mean. What if the past is not past and future is not future, what if
they are part of the present. In order words, what if you can still
influence the past which can affect the present. Think of past as
memory, change the memory, and you change the present... in a
literal way. Of course in the end experiments would decide. I
guess that Special and General Relativity is just tip of the iceberg
and the true nature of time is still much unexplored. I always
see this book "A Brief History of Time" at bookshop but never
getting it. I wonder if its good. What new insight can one gain
from it compared to other books.

quant

 




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