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Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)



 
 
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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Spaceman
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Here is the setup.

A space railway is setup and every mile there is a pole that marks the mile.
Along side of it, is another setup the exact same.
So there are 2 railways heading out into infinite space next to each other.

One spacetrain (A) is flying along the track at 200,000 miles per second.
and another (B) is traveling on the other track in the same direction at
180,000 miles per second.

A) How many poles does (A) pass by in 1 second.
and
B) How many poles does (B) pass by in 1 second.
Please feel free to use time dilation and such
if you prefer but please show the math if you do,
since I have no clue how to do time dilation math
since I am a relativity-challenged spaceman.
lol


Here are my answers using silly basic math since that is all I know.
Answer for A : 200,000 poles
Answer for B : 180,000 poles.
any different answers with time dilation?





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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Sam Wormley
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)

Space**** wrote:
Here is the setup.

A space railway is setup and every mile there is a pole that marks the mile.
Along side of it, is another setup the exact same.
So there are 2 railways heading out into infinite space next to each other.

One spacetrain (A) is flying along the track at 200,000 miles per second.
and another (B) is traveling on the other track in the same direction at
180,000 miles per second.


You are already in trouble.... speed of light is a cosmic speed
limit and the equations of special relativity apply.

200,000 miles per second is
!
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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Spaceman
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)


"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
news:8IWCf.732013$x96.213434@attbi_s72...
| Space**** wrote:
| Here is the setup.
|
| A space railway is setup and every mile there is a pole that marks the
mile.
| Along side of it, is another setup the exact same.
| So there are 2 railways heading out into infinite space next to each
other.
|
| One spacetrain (A) is flying along the track at 200,000 miles per
second.
| and another (B) is traveling on the other track in the same direction at
| 180,000 miles per second.
|
|
| You are already in trouble.... speed of light is a cosmic speed
| limit and the equations of special relativity apply.
|
| 200,000 miles per second is

Perfectally fine in a gedanken.
No probs at all with such numbers is there?
Or are you saying time dilation math will screw up?




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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)

Once upon a time 1 equaled 2.......

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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Spaceman
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)


wrote in message
ups.com...
| Once upon a time 1 equaled 2.......

Still true today.
1 Quart = 2 pints..
or
1 whole = 2 halfs
see
1=2



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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Aage Andersen
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)


"Spaceman"
Here are my answers using silly basic math since that is all I know.
Answer for A : 200,000 poles
Answer for B : 180,000 poles.
any different answers with time dilation?


Your answers are correct. No need to use time dillation. In a Gedanken
Experiment are velocities beyond c allowed.

Aage


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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Eric Gisse
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)


Spaceman wrote:

Of course it is just for fun, you are incapable of working out the
consequences of the result.

Here is the setup.

A space railway is setup and every mile there is a pole that marks the mile.
Along side of it, is another setup the exact same.
So there are 2 railways heading out into infinite space next to each other.

One spacetrain (A) is flying along the track at 200,000 miles per second.


Faster than light, space****. It can't happen.

and another (B) is traveling on the other track in the same direction at
180,000 miles per second.

A) How many poles does (A) pass by in 1 second.
and
B) How many poles does (B) pass by in 1 second.
Please feel free to use time dilation and such
if you prefer but please show the math if you do,
since I have no clue how to do time dilation math
since I am a relativity-challenged spaceman.
lol


Here are my answers using silly basic math since that is all I know.
Answer for A : 200,000 poles
Answer for B : 180,000 poles.
any different answers with time dilation?


There is no answer, space****. The entire setup was flawed from the
beginning.

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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Eric Gisse
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)


Spaceman wrote:
"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
news:8IWCf.732013$x96.213434@attbi_s72...
| Space**** wrote:
| Here is the setup.
|
| A space railway is setup and every mile there is a pole that marks the
mile.
| Along side of it, is another setup the exact same.
| So there are 2 railways heading out into infinite space next to each
other.
|
| One spacetrain (A) is flying along the track at 200,000 miles per
second.
| and another (B) is traveling on the other track in the same direction at
| 180,000 miles per second.
|
|
| You are already in trouble.... speed of light is a cosmic speed
| limit and the equations of special relativity apply.
|
| 200,000 miles per second is

Perfectally fine in a gedanken.
No probs at all with such numbers is there?
Or are you saying time dilation math will screw up?


Yea, space****. That is because the math doesn't work for velocities
exceeding c. You would know that if you knew SR as you claim you do.



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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Michael Varney
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)

Spaceman wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
| Once upon a time 1 equaled 2.......

Still true today.
1 Quart = 2 pints..
or
1 whole = 2 halfs
see
1=2


In your case 1/2 brain = 1 moron.
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Old January 29th 06 posted to sci.physics
Spaceman
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Default Gedanken Experiment time (just for fun of course)


"Eric Gisse" wrote in message
oups.com...
|
| Spaceman wrote:
| "Sam Wormley" wrote in message
| news:8IWCf.732013$x96.213434@attbi_s72...
| | Space**** wrote:
| | Here is the setup.
| |
| | A space railway is setup and every mile there is a pole that marks
the
| mile.
| | Along side of it, is another setup the exact same.
| | So there are 2 railways heading out into infinite space next to each
| other.
| |
| | One spacetrain (A) is flying along the track at 200,000 miles per
| second.
| | and another (B) is traveling on the other track in the same
direction at
| | 180,000 miles per second.
| |
| |
| | You are already in trouble.... speed of light is a cosmic speed
| | limit and the equations of special relativity apply.
| |
| | 200,000 miles per second is
|
| Perfectally fine in a gedanken.
| No probs at all with such numbers is there?
| Or are you saying time dilation math will screw up?
|
| Yea, space****. That is because the math doesn't work for velocities
| exceeding c. You would know that if you knew SR as you claim you do.

Oh, ya, bummer huh,
Silly Eric.
Why would you trust such math that states other math is wrong?
math proving math is wrong..
such great reliable stuff.
lol


 




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