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What's the rule regarding 'ones' in algebra?



 
 
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Old September 21st 03 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics
Donald G. Shead
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Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...








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Old September 22nd 03 posted to sci.physics
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Default What's the rule regarding 'ones' in algebra?

Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...


You could, but you would either be wasteful in your steps, or wrong in your
steps, depending on the context of your quantitative endeaver.

Was that question serious?
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Old September 22nd 03 posted to sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
Mark Mallory
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Chergarj wrote:

Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...



You could, but you would either be wasteful in your steps, or wrong in your
steps, depending on the context of your quantitative endeaver.

Was that question serious?



Sadly, it was.

Don sHead is a retired civil service worker with an eighth-grade education. He
has no understanding of math beyond grade-school arithmetic. There is no point
in attempting to provide any meaningful answer to any question he may ask,
concerning math or physics. No matter how simplified your reply, it will be
utterly beyond his comprehension.

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Old September 22nd 03 posted to sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
Donald G. Shead
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"Mark Mallory" wrote in message
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Chergarj wrote:

Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...



You could, but you would either be wasteful in your steps, or wrong in

your
steps, depending on the context of your quantitative endeaver.

Was that question serious?


Yes it is serious: Many years ago I overheard a H.S. algebra teacher tell
his class _something to the effect_ that the number one [1] was such that it
didn't change the value (of an equation) when it was inserted in an
equation. That made a lasting impression, since I didn't understand then,
and don't now:

In particular: Writing that acceleration [a] is _inversely_ proportional to
the mass [m] of a body, as [a is proportional to 1/m]. That somehow doesn't
look 'copesthetic' to me; especially if 'm' is a variable.

I thought the rule might be simple enough for me to understand; but it's
not, according to 'The Ghost in the Machine'.

Sadly, it was.

Cut The rest of Mark's [ignorant; prejudicial jealous, and cutting]
comentary(;^)



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Old September 22nd 03 posted to sci.physics
John Zinni
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"Donald G. Shead" wrote in message
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"Mark Mallory" wrote in message
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Chergarj wrote:

Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...



You could, but you would either be wasteful in your steps, or wrong in

your
steps, depending on the context of your quantitative endeaver.

Was that question serious?


Yes it is serious: Many years ago I overheard a H.S. algebra teacher tell
his class _something to the effect_ that the number one [1] was such that

it
didn't change the value (of an equation) when it was inserted in an
equation. That made a lasting impression, since I didn't understand then,
and don't now:

In particular: Writing that acceleration [a] is _inversely_ proportional

to
the mass [m] of a body, as [a is proportional to 1/m]. That somehow

doesn't
look 'copesthetic' to me; especially if 'm' is a variable.


For starters "a is proportional to 1/m" is not an equation.


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Old September 22nd 03 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics
Paul Cardinale
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"Donald G. Shead" wrote in message om...
Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...


Yes, of course. For example, start with: a + b = c, then we can put
in as many ones as we like: a + b + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 ... = c. You can be
as indiscriminate as you like with the ones, and you'll be as right as
you always are.
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Old September 22nd 03 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics
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"Paul Cardinale" wrote in message
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"Donald G. Shead" wrote in message

om...
Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...


Yes, of course. For example, start with: a + b = c, then we can put
in as many ones as we like: a + b + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 ... = c. You can be
as indiscriminate as you like with the ones, and you'll be as right as
you always are.


Please, tell me that this was a joke...

Kostas.



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Old September 22nd 03 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics
Donald G. Shead
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"Paul Cardinale" wrote in message
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"Donald G. Shead" wrote in message

om...
Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...


Yes, of course. For example, start with: a + b = c, then we can put
in as many ones as we like: a + b + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 ... = c. You can be
as indiscriminate as you like with the ones, and you'll be as right as
you always are.


Got any real ideas Paul?


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Old September 22nd 03 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics
Donald G. Shead
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"Constantine" wrote in message
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"Paul Cardinale" wrote in message
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"Donald G. Shead" wrote in message

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Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...


Yes, of course. For example, start with: a + b = c, then we can put
in as many ones as we like: a + b + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 ... = c. You can be
as indiscriminate as you like with the ones, and you'll be as right as
you always are.


Please, tell me that this was a joke...

Kostas.


'Fess-up Paul: That you did it because you are scared as all get out that
Shead's simplicity will upset the applecart: Maybe even shake-up the
gravyboat and a few gravytrains too(:-)


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Old September 22nd 03 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics
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Default What's the rule regarding 'ones' in algebra?

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:41:13 GMT, "Donald G. Shead"
wrote:


"Paul Cardinale" wrote in message
m...
"Donald G. Shead" wrote in message

. com...
Can you use ones [1's] indescriminately in algebra? If not why not...


Yes, of course. For example, start with: a + b = c, then we can put
in as many ones as we like: a + b + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 ... = c. You can be
as indiscriminate as you like with the ones, and you'll be as right as
you always are.


Got any real ideas Paul?


You were supposed to learn something from that,
****Head--specifically, that you _cannot_ use ones indiscriminately in
algebra, which was your original premise. But once again, you have
proved you are incapable of learning the simplest concepts in
mathematics or physics, and have no real interest in learning
anything. All you want is attention. Must be terrible to be not only
old and forgetful, but so terribly lonely on top of it.

Gene Nygaard
"Life's tough. But it's tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
 




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