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Why is the speed of light the same for all observers? (Inertial ones, at least)



 
 
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Old October 31st 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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Default Why is the speed of light the same for all observers? (Inertial ones, at least)

Phase velocity and group velocity??

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Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket wrote:
Phase velocity and group velocity??


It is the same because all observers get
their matter from the only store in the
world.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&btn G=Search

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Sue...

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Images/alphaeq.gif
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/alpha.html

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Sue... wrote:
Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket wrote:
Phase velocity and group velocity??


It is the same because all observers get
their matter from the only store in the
world.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&btn G=Search

)
Sue...

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Images/alphaeq.gif
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/alpha.html


That'd be Wall-In-Velocity-Space Mart.

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Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket wrote:
Phase velocity and group velocity??


xxein: Try (c+v)^2 along with the mandatory (c-v)^2.

Both are present at all times in all (inertial) frames.

If you need further explanation, you are just a poser. Go away.

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Old November 2nd 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.chem,sci.physics.particle,sci.math
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NEW SI GUESS iSS GENERAL UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM
Where, (permeability*permittivity) = Uo*Eo
= m1 / h*fL
= nL / fL*wl*c
= m1 / k*{e}*fL*c
= Na*m1 / Ra*{e}*fL*c
= Na*(mol part) / Mol*(vp*vg)
= Na*(mol part) / Mol*c^2.
Where wl is wavelength.
Where k is Boltzman's constant.
Where C2 is SECOND RADiATiON constant.
Where Na is Avagadro's NUMBER constant.
Where (vp*vg) is GROUP velocity times PHASE velocity.
Where Eo is NOT EinsteiN's ABSORBED photon ENERGY, for here.
brian a m stuckless

Spoonfed wrote:
electric and magnetic fields explained the speed of light.


Multiplying the permittivity times the permeability


So, I guess the question I want to ask is, why do you multiply
permittivity and permeability together?


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NEW SI GUESS iSS GENERAL UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM
Where, (permeability*permittivity) = Uo*Eo - (sec)^2 / m^2
= 2*pi*k*c*{e} / C1
= 2*pi*Ub / C1*Zs
= 2*pi*h / C1
= {e} / C2
= m1 / h*fL
= nL / fL*wl*c
= m1 / k*{e}*fL*c
= Na*m1 / Ra*{e}*fL*c
= Na*(mol part) / Mol*(vp*vg)
= Na*(mol part) / Mol*c^2.
NOMENCLATU
Where wl is wavelength.
Where Ub is Bohr MAGNETON.
Where k is Boltzman's constant.
Where C1 is FiRST RADiATiON constant.
Where C2 is SECOND RADiATiON constant.
Where Na is Avagadro's NUMBER constant.
Where Zs is the ZeeMann SPLiTTiNG constant.
Where (vp*vg) is PHASE velocity times GROUP velocity.
NOTE: Eo is NOT EinsteiN's ABSORBED photon ENERGY, here.
brian a m stuckless

Spoonfed wrote:
electric and magnetic fields explained the speed of light.


Multiplying the permittivity times the permeability


So, I guess the question I want to ask is, why do you multiply
permittivity and permeability together?


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Old November 3rd 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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Daniel Weston wrote:
"Why is the speed of light the same for all observers?" Ans: No body
knows. That is the correct answer and it should be given quickly. Some
un professional defenders of relativity on this ng, become incredibly
defensive when asked this question or like questions where the answer is
unknown.

[...]

Ours not to reason why, but do n die. Tis blasphemy, tis veritable
blasphemy. God has prepared Hell for people who ask such questions.
(St. Orgastine)

Yak-a-yak-a-yak-a-yak, und so veyeter.

Drive a stake through the heart of science and put it to rest for the
next thousand years.

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Old November 4th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.chem,sci.physics.particle,sci.math
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CORRECTiON: e=RESTmass*c^2=(mol part)*K*Volt*meter/c^2.

Volt*Amp*sec = GUESS EQUiVALENT iNTRiNSiC unit energy e

(mol part)*K*Volt*meter
= -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- = (GUESS unit REST mass)*c^2.
c^2
Whe
GUESS iSS, TEST SHELL mass m1 = STANDARD TEST REST-mass,
at SUBMERGED weightlessness, in STANDARD AMBiENT medium:
m1 = mD - mS = N*u = {do - (mi / Vi)} = [mph]
= SHELL volume*density
= Vs*ds
= Vi*(do - di)
= (Po - Pi)*Vi*dx / Po
= 4*thick*S*Vi*dx / Po*(cavity dia + SHELL thickness)
= h*fL / c^2
= nA*{mph}*ls / rA
= mS / (n - 1)
= N / Nu
mD / n
= ni*u / xi
= Vdis*Ddis / n
= nA*hbar / rA*c
= iNTRiNSiC energy / c^2
= (mol part)*K*Volt*m / c^4 ..line CORRECTiON *m a meter.
brian a m stuckless


Bilge wrote: Daniel Weston, incompetent asshole:
"Why is the speed of light the same for all observers?"
Ans: No body knows.


Wrong. What nobody knows is how to get the answer through your
thick skull. That is an entirely different question.

That is the correct answer and it should be given quickly. Some
un professional defenders of relativity on this ng, become
incredibly defensive when asked this question or like questions
where the answer is unknown.


By their immature and canned responses,
you would think that somebody's ancestry had been called into
question.

It is not a crime to ask why, meaning by what mechanism.


No, but it is a crime to reject the answer because it doesn't
fit your naive world view.

It is not a crime to answer such questions with an honest and
simple, 'we don't know'.


No, but it is a crime to blame your inability to understand the
answer on all of those who gave you the answer you requested.



 




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