I discovered my negative self in the park a few years ago, his manner
being totally negative to my extreme positive. We had in a literal
sense split apart!

Eventually merging back nearly a month later leaving me in a dizzy-slow
state for the rest of the day.

How do you explain this experience?

I definitely feel in each human there is the anti-matter version of
yourself and depending on certain rare psychological conditions you can
produce this anti-you (In my case being extremely positive which left
the negative side of my personality having to form into a separate
solid human anti-being), it could also talk to other people so it
wasn't an hallucination.

Wizard of Odd wrote:
I discovered my negative self in the park a few years ago, his manner
being totally negative to my extreme positive. We had in a literal
sense split apart!

Eventually merging back nearly a month later leaving me in a dizzy-slow
state for the rest of the day.

How do you explain this experience?

I definitely feel in each human there is the anti-matter version of
yourself and depending on certain rare psychological conditions you can
produce this anti-you (In my case being extremely positive which left
the negative side of my personality having to form into a separate
solid human anti-being), it could also talk to other people so it
wasn't an hallucination.

In a nearby small town there's a restaurant that I frequent. Very
often there's a very animated, intellectually stimulated conversation
going on at a corner table. In these conversations the topic is usually
economic theory, with rigorous debate being offered from two sides of
the table. The interesting thing is... there's only one guy sitting
there.

He's a well known professor at De Pauw University, there in town.
He's very intelligent, an excellent teacher, and schizophrenic.

-Mark Martin

"Mark Martin" wrote in message
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:
: Wizard of Odd wrote:
: I discovered my negative self in the park a few years ago, his
manner
: being totally negative to my extreme positive. We had in a literal
: sense split apart!
:
: Eventually merging back nearly a month later leaving me in a
dizzy-slow
: state for the rest of the day.
:
: How do you explain this experience?
:
: I definitely feel in each human there is the anti-matter version
of
: yourself and depending on certain rare psychological conditions
you can
: produce this anti-you (In my case being extremely positive which
left
: the negative side of my personality having to form into a separate
: solid human anti-being), it could also talk to other people so it
: wasn't an hallucination.
:
: In a nearby small town there's a restaurant that I frequent. Very
: often there's a very animated, intellectually stimulated
conversation
: going on at a corner table. In these conversations the topic is
usually
: economic theory, with rigorous debate being offered from two sides
of
: the table. The interesting thing is... there's only one guy sitting
: there.

We had a guy like that on my ship...PN3 Roberts, from some small town
in W. Va. One night, he woke all of us up by having an argument with
someone who wasn't in his locker...when he became aware of everyone
watching him, he pointed into his locker, saying, "There's no one in
there." Well known for talking to the trees, and arguing with
himself.

: He's a well known professor at De Pauw University, there in town.
: He's very intelligent, an excellent teacher, and schizophrenic.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenic:
The term "schizophrenia" translates roughly as "shattered mind," and
comes from the Greek σχίζω (schizo, "to split" or "to divide") and
φ�ήν (phrēn, "mind"). Despite its etymology, schizophrenia is not
synonymous with dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple
personality disorder or "split personality"; in popular culture the
two are often confused.

Misleart Chuff wrote:

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We had a guy like that on my ship...PN3 Roberts, from some small town
in W. Va. One night, he woke all of us up by having an argument with
someone who wasn't in his locker...when he became aware of everyone
watching him, he pointed into his locker, saying, "There's no one in
there." Well known for talking to the trees, and arguing with
himself.

: He's a well known professor at De Pauw University, there in town.
: He's very intelligent, an excellent teacher, and schizophrenic.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenic:
The term "schizophrenia" translates roughly as "shattered mind," and
comes from the Greek σχίζω (schizo, "to split" or "to divide") and
φ�ήν (phrēn, "mind"). Despite its etymology, schizophrenia is not
synonymous with dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple
personality disorder or "split personality"; in popular culture the
two are often confused.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination
"Auditory hallucinations (particularly of one or more talking voices)
are particularly associated with psychotic disorders such as
schizophrenia, and hold special significance in diagnosing these
conditions. This does not mean that the experience of 'hearing voices'
is necessarily a sign of mental illness, and many people may have these
or similar hallucinations without ever becoming impaired or distressed
in any way."

Having made that statement, try this one from Abby Kieser:
http://www.rd.com/content/openNewsle...ontentId=14908
"I served with a guy who did a strange thing: He bounced an imaginary
basketball wherever he went. Eventually, a psychiatrist labeled him
unfit for duty, which led to a medical discharge. After the
proceedings, he addressed the officer in charge.
"Sir, may I approach?"
With permission granted, he went through the motion of putting
something on the officer's desk.
"What is this?" asked the officer.
"My basketball. I don't need it anymore."

"God told me to rob the 7-11." - Dick Price

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

"tadchem" wrote in message
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Misleart Chuff wrote:

snip

We had a guy like that on my ship...PN3 Roberts, from some small
town
in W. Va. One night, he woke all of us up by having an argument
with
someone who wasn't in his locker...when he became aware of everyone
watching him, he pointed into his locker, saying, "There's no one in
there." Well known for talking to the trees, and arguing with
himself.

: He's a well known professor at De Pauw University, there in
town.
: He's very intelligent, an excellent teacher, and schizophrenic.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenic:
The term "schizophrenia" translates roughly as "shattered mind," and
comes from the Greek σχίζω (schizo, "to split" or "to divide") and
φ�ήν (phrēn, "mind"). Despite its etymology, schizophrenia is not
synonymous with dissociative identity disorder, also known as
multiple
personality disorder or "split personality"; in popular culture the
two are often confused.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination
"Auditory hallucinations (particularly of one or more talking voices)
are particularly associated with psychotic disorders such as
schizophrenia, and hold special significance in diagnosing these
conditions. This does not mean that the experience of 'hearing voices'
is necessarily a sign of mental illness, and many people may have
these
or similar hallucinations without ever becoming impaired or distressed
in any way."

Ummmmmm....what's your point here? You described someone who has
arguments with himself, not someone with hallucinations.....are you
saying that he had/has those, and forgot to mention it previously? I
posted that bit to point out that your description doesn't appear to
fit that of a schizo.

Having made that statement, try this one from Abby Kieser:
http://www.rd.com/content/openNewsle...ontentId=14908
"I served with a guy who did a strange thing: He bounced an imaginary
basketball wherever he went. Eventually, a psychiatrist labeled him
unfit for duty, which led to a medical discharge. After the
proceedings, he addressed the officer in charge.
"Sir, may I approach?"
With permission granted, he went through the motion of putting
something on the officer's desk.
"What is this?" asked the officer.
"My basketball. I don't need it anymore."

Klinger shoulda used this guy's method.

"God told me to rob the 7-11." - Dick Price

I don't suppose you know where I could find a good copy of it, do you?
Mine is on tape, from radio...and more than ten years old.

Misleart Chuff wrote:

snip

Ummmmmm....what's your point here? You described someone who has
arguments with himself, not someone with hallucinations.....are you
saying that he had/has those, and forgot to mention it previously?

Actually, it was Mark that brought it up, although I myself have
experience with people who were accompanied by 'invisible friends'. In
Austin I lived two blocks from the state hospital and frequently saw a
man whose behavior fit the description Mark gave, right down to buying
his buddy coffee and a doughnut at the local Winchell's on their 'days
out'. [Self-committed patients in Texas are free to come and go at
will.]

I
posted that bit to point out that your description doesn't appear to
fit that of a schizo.

Part of the 'argument with oneself' phenomenon, when acted out in this
manner, is the auditory hallucination. Some schizophrenics are
constantly arguing with a number of voices nobody else can hear, from
people nobody else can see.

"God told me to rob the 7-11." - Dick Price

I don't suppose you know where I could find a good copy of it, do you?
Mine is on tape, from radio...and more than ten years old.

Same as mine - from my collection of old Dr. Demento syndicated
programs...

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

tadchem wrote:

Actually, it was Mark that brought it up,...

Yes, it was me. Of course, if someone is able to make a more
clinically accurate diagnosis of the professor's psychiatric condition,
then that's fine. My point with the Wiz is that, if he recalls meeting
his opposite self, there may be something to it other than a
hubris-generated anti-matter version of himself. /

-Mark Martin

"Wizard of Odd" wrote in message
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I discovered my negative self in the park a few years ago, his manner
being totally negative to my extreme positive. We had in a literal
sense split apart!

Eventually merging back nearly a month later leaving me in a dizzy-slow
state for the rest of the day.

How do you explain this experience?

Easy.
You're as mad as a fish.

How do they deal with being confronted by being told the truth, or with
being beaten in the head?

Hi ****ty


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