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The Paradox of Zeno
The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not required. One form of the paradox describes the flight of an arrow which has been shot at a target. The arrow is shot at a constant velocity, V, to a target at a distance, L, and the time of flight is divided into intervals. In the first interval, the arrow covers half of the distance to the target and, in each succeeding interval of time, it covers half of the remaining distance. Under the line of reasoning presented, the arrow never reaches the target because, after each successive interval of time, one half of the distance to the target that existed at the beginning of the interval remains. The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken seriously by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been recognized as a form of trickery. If one accepts that in each successive interval of time the arrow traveled half of the remaining distance to the target, he must also accept that each of those successive intervals of time is half of the duration of the interval which preceded it. As a result, under the Paradox of Zeno, not only does the arrow never reach the target, the elapsed time of its flight never reaches the time, T, when the arrow would reach the target. There is no paradox in the Paradox of the Zeno. As long as one allows a cheap trick to fool him into considering only those events which occur prior to the arrival of the arrow at the target, he most certainly will believe that the arrow never reaches the target. The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF TIME DOES NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES THE TARGET WHEN IT SHOULD. To find the Paradox of Zeno be seriously considered as a topic which requires a level of mathematics beyond simple arithmetic for its resolution should lead a reasonable man to have serious doubts as to the mental capacity of the individuals who are engaged in the teaching process. The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) located at http://www.members.aol.com/einsteinhoax/site.htm . EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. For a response send E-Mail to The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. |
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Deloated10 wrote:
The Paradox of Zeno There is no paradox. Trasnfinite numbers cleaned things up in the late 1960s. [snip] Psychotic ineducable boring retic (Ernest Wittke), http://w0rli.home.att.net/youare.swf http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg http://www.you-moron.com/ http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gr...uthor%3Awittke http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) [snip] Hey, stooopid Ernest Wittke - Do you want EVIDENCE? Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit, with full relativistic corrections being applied. http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140 GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7 http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume4/2001-4will/index.html Experimental constraints on General Relativity. http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/index.html http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf Relativity in the GPS system http://fourmilab.to/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf http://www.physics.gatech.edu/people/faculty/finkelstein/relativity.pdf http://users.powernet.co.uk/bearsoft/Paper6.pdf http://users.powernet.co.uk/bearsoft/LPHrel.html Longitudinal and transverse mass http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/gpsuser/gpsuser.pdf http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/sigspec/default.htm http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/icd200/default.htm http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.html http://sirius.chinalake.navy.mil/satpred/ http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html http://egtphysics.net/GPS/RelGPS.htm http://www.schriever.af.mil/gps/Current/current.oa1 http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Right, like your head has ever been withdrawn from your ass - even when you ****. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net! |
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Deloated10 wrote: The Paradox of Zeno The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability snipped There is no paradox in the Paradox of the Zeno. As long as one allows a cheap trick to fool him into considering only those events which occur prior to the arrival of the arrow at the target, he most certainly will believe that the arrow never reaches the target. The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF TIME DOES NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES THE TARGET WHEN IT SHOULD. To find the Paradox of Zeno be seriously considered as a topic which requires a level of mathematics beyond simple arithmetic for its resolution should lead a reasonable man to have serious doubts as to the mental capacity of the individuals who are engaged in the teaching process. Your solution has been around for a couple hundred years already. The problem is that it doesn't address the real paradox, which is that if time is a succession of 'instants' (zero time intervals), then motion cannot occur. A thoughtful resolution to the paradox is simply that the premise is incorrect, i.e. that time is not a succession of instants, but rather it is a succession of infinitesimal intervals which are always constrained to be greater than zero. Thus enters a seeming link to quantum processes, and even to quantum geometry. Stay that thought, because there is another thoughtful resolution that is a bit more correct: Motion, in mathematical form, invokes the concept of speed, and speed in turn requires a non-zero time interval in order to define it, hence motion truly doesn't exist in any given instant, by shear definition of speed (speed = ds/dt), and thus we have an alternate resolution to the paradox, i.e. that the statement 'motion cannot exist if time is a succession of instants' turns out to be precisely valid and correct and we can therefore allow for the reality that that time is indeed a succession of instants, without the least contradiction to the motions of objects. And thus explains the success of the Calculus in dealing with true continuums, that is, it is perfectly ok to let the interval shrink to exactly zero when summations of sequences are not involved in the calculations, but rather are shortcut by some other law of Calculus such as differential equations. It is our notion that a continuum can be segmented into discrete non zero elements that is incorrect, thus the reason that approach always gives only approximations rather than exact solutions. JMTCW Richard Perrry |
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