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http://www.stirlingenergy.com/news.asp?Type=stirling
Will this work? Still waiting for the car with Stirling engine... |
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
http://www.stirlingenergy.com/news.asp?Type=stirling Will this work? [snip] Is it subsidized? It will work until government and investor money ceases to flow, always promising a profit in an immediate future that never arrives. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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Is it subsidized? It will work until government and investor money
ceases to flow, always promising a profit in an immediate future that never arrives. ***************** How unbelievably cynical! |
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On a sunny day (Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:47:58 -0400) it happened Guy Gordon
wrote in : Jan Panteltje wrote: http://www.stirlingenergy.com/news.asp?Type=stirling Will this work? Still waiting for the car with Stirling engine... Well, don't hold your breath waiting for the car. But Stirling cycle engines are ideal for solar to electric power. Some months ago I read a long article on this subject in EE Times. (you can probably find it at http://eetimes.com, but I read it in print.) I found: http://eetimes.com/news/latest/showA...cleID=53700939 They claim 30% (overall efficiency). And 10 to 16% overall for solar cells. Solar cells will keep getting better I am sure.... and have little downtime no moving parts... efficiency of solid state converters could be very good.. So we will wait and see. For sure with these ridiculous fuel prices solar power and water power (and nuclear of cause) are becoming a must if we want to live the way we live now. |
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Jan Panteltje,
Place solar-stirling, secondary/recoil PV and that of a substantial wind turbine onto one tower, as having their mutual foundation as footprint and lo and behold, the average available energy per footprint can exceed 20 kw/m2. Is that good or what? ~ Life upon Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm War is war, thus "in war there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules, such as GW Bush. |
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:47:58 -0400) it happened Guy Gordon wrote in : Jan Panteltje wrote: http://www.stirlingenergy.com/news.asp?Type=stirling Will this work? Still waiting for the car with Stirling engine... Well, don't hold your breath waiting for the car. But Stirling cycle engines are ideal for solar to electric power. Some months ago I read a long article on this subject in EE Times. (you can probably find it at http://eetimes.com, but I read it in print.) I found: http://eetimes.com/news/latest/showA...cleID=53700939 They claim 30% (overall efficiency). And 10 to 16% overall for solar cells. Solar cells will keep getting better I am sure.... and have little downtime no moving parts... efficiency of solid state converters could be very good.. So we will wait and see. For sure with these ridiculous fuel prices solar power and water power (and nuclear of cause) are becoming a must if we want to live the way we live now. Boeing has been looking into generating electricity using solar heat. See http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/...owertower.html and especially http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/...lar2_final.pdf --Mike Jr. |
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Good for them!!
it must work we have no much other choices. ATB Y.Porat ------------------------- |
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On a sunny day (8 Sep 2005 17:51:04 -0700) it happened "Mike"
wrote in .com: Boeing has been looking into generating electricity using solar heat. See http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/...owertower.html and especially http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/...lar2_final.pdf quote from http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/energy/articles/tower.html A conventional 200-MWe coal power plant with a 63 percent capacity factor yields a levelized energy cost of about 6¢/kw-hr, but an effective cost, considering harmful emissions, of 11¢/kw-hr. In comparison, a 200-MWe solar power tower plant with a 63 percent capacity factor is projected to yield a levelized energy cost of about 8¢/kw-hr, but an effective cost of about 6¢/kw-hr when credit for pollution-free operation is factored in. /quote I have also looked at part of the mpeg movie from solar 1 Big project :-) |
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On a sunny day (8 Sep 2005 15:14:23 -0700) it happened "Brad Guth"
wrote in .com: Jan Panteltje, Place solar-stirling, secondary/recoil PV and that of a substantial wind turbine onto one tower, as having their mutual foundation as footprint and lo and behold, the average available energy per footprint can exceed 20 kw/m2. Is that good or what? When you design it, do not forget a little chair all the way at the top for you to sit in. |
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