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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
CoreyWhite@gmail.com
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I've discovered a new theory that might create a sustainable and
perpetual source of free energy for the world. The source is Air.

The human body is mostly made up of proteins and water. We get all of
those building blocks, and others, from the food we eat and the water
we drink. Our body is constantly using all of that fuel, not solely to
provide us with energy. It mostly uses all of the materials in our
diet to rebuild and replenish our blood, bones, and tissue. Every six
months all the cells in our body are rebuilt.

You can't go six months without eating or drinking, but you can go a
long time without food or even without water, at least compared to
breathing. It only takes a few minuets without air for a person to run
out of energy and die. So you have to ask yourself if most of the
energy we use is from breathing, or if it is from food and water.

We need the food and water to have a structure to or bodies, because
without water we would evaporate, and without food our cells would rot
away. Without oxygen though we would have any power to even be alive.

If we ever understand exactly what the air we breath is doing to keep
us alive, because I don't think we do yet.. We would have an unlimited
source of energy from breathing machines. You can literally see the
amount of power in the air every time lightning strikes the earth, It
is amazing.

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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
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" wrote in
oups.com:


wrote:
I've discovered a new theory that might create a sustainable and
perpetual source of free energy for the world. The source is Air.


Since air is the number one energy waster in most machines,
you'd had to do a recalc using a Gaia only theory to make
it work.


The human body is mostly made up of proteins and water. We get all

of
those building blocks, and others, from the food we eat and the water
we drink. Our body is constantly using all of that fuel, not solely

to
provide us with energy. It mostly uses all of the materials in our
diet to rebuild and replenish our blood, bones, and tissue. Every

six
months all the cells in our body are rebuilt.






You can't go six months without eating or drinking, but you can go a
long time without food or even without water, at least compared to
breathing. It only takes a few minuets without air for a person to

run
out of energy and die. So you have to ask yourself if most of the
energy we use is from breathing, or if it is from food and water.


Air is a catalytic converter.
It doesn't do anything but stimulate toxin synthesis.



I am designing an expiriment to test my theory. Lightning remains a
mistery, no one is certain how it forms in the air, but it is connected
to the water cycle and temperature from the sun.

I was thinking that it might be possible to create a water cycle
bio-dome expiriment. If I took a glass container, and filled it half
full with water. Then at the top of the container attatched a high
powered fan, as the water evaporated the fan would keep the vapors from
rising to the top and condensing on the glass surface. I think a cloud
might form in the water vapor at that stage. Then hopefully if there
is something to ground the energy of the cloud, like a piece of iron
floating in the water.. You might get minature lightning strikes.

Other ideas could be to use helium gas as well as air in the container
to keep a layer of gas which was lighter than the water vapor around the
inside of the glass.

This idea is kinda out there I know, but does anyone know how to build
a water cycle machine? I think that if I keep working on it eventually I
will see what I'm talking about happen.

Considering I've interacted with ball lightning while praying on a clear
night, I think doing this is very possible.
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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
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wrote:

I've discovered a new theory that might create a sustainable and
perpetual source of free energy for the world. The source is Air.


Air has a reservoir of oxygen, which is maintained by photosynthesis,
which is powered by the sun. Any energy in air has come from the sun,
so you might as well just use solar cells, or a black box to warm water
pipes. In a sense the sun is "free" because it is not going to go away
any time soon, but I think people are on to this already.

[snip]
If we ever understand exactly what the air we breath is doing to keep
us alive, because I don't think we do yet..


the general principles of respiration are well studied, though I don't
claim that absolutely every last detail has been sorted.

We would have an unlimited
source of energy from breathing machines.


using up the oxygen in the air on a large scale is suicidal. If the
percentage drops from 21% to below 19.5%, we're all in trouble, see
below about how handling liquid nitrogen in confined spaces is
dangerous:

http://www.ehs.neu.edu/cryo/cryogen.htm

"1.4 Asphyxiation
The air consists of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and trace gases making up
the remaining 1%. If sufficient liquid nitrogen is vaporized so as to
reduce the oxygen percentage to below 19.5%, there is a risk of oxygen
deficiency. In confined or poorly ventilated areas (such as a
laboratory, transport elevator or storage area), the expanding gas will
displace oxygen, presenting an asphyxiation hazard to personnel working
in the area.

Simple asphyxiants such as nitrogen do not have good warning
properties! One might not feel "light-headed," but may simply pass out
without any warning whatsoever, and then die without regaining
consciousness. To prevent asphyxiation hazards, make sure that the room
is well ventilated when using cryogens indoors. If large quantities of
cryogenic vapors are released, the areas suspected of being oxygen
deficient shall be evacuated immediately."

You can literally see the
amount of power in the air every time lightning strikes the earth, It
is amazing.


you have now switched from breathing (using oxygen) to lightning
(electric fields). Lightning is also pretty well known - basically you
need electric charge separation (not water separation, or air
separation, etc...). To separate electric charge you need an energy
input, this again comes from the sun. People have thought about how to
harness such energy, but afaik, the power produced is negligible unless
you are in the middle of lightning storm.

regards

br

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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
Dr Photon
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Corey White wrote:

I am designing an expiriment to test my theory.


who is paying for this, btw?

Lightning remains a mistery,


but not a *complete* mystery, see
http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning.htm
and sublinks for example, which does indeed say that the charge
separation is not satisfactorily explored
http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning2.htm

If you can recreate ball lightning, or indentify charge separation
mechanisms in clouds, I think people would be interested.

no one is certain how it forms in the air, but it is connected
to the water cycle and temperature from the sun.


I was thinking that it might be possible to create a water cycle
bio-dome expiriment. If I took a glass container, and filled it half
full with water. Then at the top of the container attatched a high
powered fan, as the water evaporated the fan would keep the vapors from
rising to the top and condensing on the glass surface. I think a cloud
might form in the water vapor at that stage. Then hopefully if there
is something to ground the energy of the cloud, like a piece of iron
floating in the water.. You might get minature lightning strikes.


you'll have to have quite a big cloud, I suspect. To cause a lightning
strike requires a high electric field, which requires a lot of charge,
which requires a lot of cloud. Also, if you do this in a confined
space, the droplets at the top of the cloud will probably move quickly
around the chamber (especially if there is a fan!), and neutralise any
other charges that may have arisen. In other words, I don't give you
much hope of succeeding.

[snip]

Considering I've interacted with ball lightning while praying on a clear
night, I think doing this is very possible.


sounds painful! How did it behave?

br

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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
Tom
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wrote in message
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If we ever understand exactly what the air we breath is doing to keep
us alive, because I don't think we do yet..


Well, *you* may not understand what air does to keep us alive, but that
doesn't mean nobody else does.

I do, for instance.


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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
Mike McWilliams
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I am designing an expiriment to test my theory. Lightning remains a
mistery, no one is certain how it forms in the air, but it is connected
to the water cycle and temperature from the sun.


I think someones been hitting the weed a little bit here. Lightning is
not mysterious, any more than rubbing a baloon on your head and sticking
it to the wall in winter...

The majority of knowledge regarding electrical phenomena was described
in the 1800's. Go crack a first year university physics book, or even a
seniors HS book.


This idea is kinda out there I know, but does anyone know how to build
a water cycle machine? I think that if I keep working on it eventually I
will see what I'm talking about happen.

Considering I've interacted with ball lightning while praying on a clear
night, I think doing this is very possible.


furthermore, I'm guessing on that particular night it was something a
little stronger than weed...

or maybe religious fanaticism is enough to get you high enough to
hallucinate, Jah knows you wouldn't be tha last.
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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
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Go crack a first year university physics book, or even a
seniors HS book.


No, Corey, don't do it!!!!! That will only serve to destroy your
fantastic insights into the true nature of Reality. Stay just as ewe
are!

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Old August 29th 05 posted to alt.energy.renewable,alt.magick,sci.physics
Randy Poe
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wrote:
I've discovered a new theory that might create a sustainable and
perpetual source of free energy for the world. The source is Air.

The human body is mostly made up of proteins and water. We get all of
those building blocks, and others, from the food we eat and the water
we drink. Our body is constantly using all of that fuel, not solely to
provide us with energy. It mostly uses all of the materials in our
diet to rebuild and replenish our blood, bones, and tissue. Every six
months all the cells in our body are rebuilt.

You can't go six months without eating or drinking, but you can go a
long time without food or even without water, at least compared to
breathing. It only takes a few minuets without air for a person to run
out of energy and die. So you have to ask yourself if most of the
energy we use is from breathing, or if it is from food and water.


You would have to ask yourself this only if you ignored what
was already known in great detail from the last few centuries
of biology and biochemistry.

We need the food and water to have a structure to or bodies, because
without water we would evaporate,


That's pretty funny.

Is that really what you think happens to a person who
dies of dehydration? They evaporate? Just sort of
vanish into steam?

and without food our cells would rot
away.


That's pretty funny too.

Without oxygen though we would have any power to even be alive.


Warning: it has been a couple of decades since I last saw
a biochemistry text.

I believe there may be a grain of truth here. The "power"
that fuels our chemistry is stored in a molecule called
ATP. The "TP" means "tri-phosphate". The body charges up
its batteries by making ATP. ATP becomes ADP (diphosphate)
and then AMP, and in the process the energy goes into
useful work.

ISTR that oxygen is involved in recharging the ATP.

If we ever understand exactly what the air we breath is doing to keep
us alive, because I don't think we do yet.


You might want to crack a biology book before making pronouncements
about what we do or don't know about biology.

We would have an unlimited
source of energy from breathing machines.


Well.... OK, suppose you had a big lump of synthetic
cells whose job was to take in O2 and AMP and put out
ATP. The energy is in chemical form. The body is good
at extracting chemical energy to do chemical work.

But our machines aren't really very good at converting
chemical energy like that into useful work.

The best way we have to do that involves taking oxygen
out of the air and using a self-sustaining heat reaction
to generate heat, which can then be used in various ways
(such as driving steam turbines). We call this form
of breathing machine a "fire". It's been known for a
few centuries. Unfortunately, it requires some solid
fuel, not just the oxygen. It requires something to
oxidize. We call this "burning up the log in the fire". It
isn't unlimited, you need lots of fuel. Forests get
flattened by cultures trying to live on fire alone.

I suspect the same is true of our bodies, as efficient
as they are. There is probably food consumed in the
process of charging ATP. O2 alone is only part of the
story.

You can literally see the
amount of power in the air every time lightning strikes the earth, It
is amazing.


But it isn't energy obtained from the air. Perhaps you
aren't aware of it, but there is another thing involved
in lightning storms, which we call by its technical name
"a thundercloud".

- Randy

 




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