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Begin forwarded message: From: Jack Sarfatti Date: August 22, 2005 6:09:43 PM PDT To: Robert Baker Subject: Note on Higgs mechanism "Still haven't found Higgs after 20 years, so I don't think it exists. The LHC is coming on line in short time, so I think this will be the definitive end of the line for a Higgs boson search. If it isn't found in the LHC, then quantum field theorists will be forced to confront other models for inertia and mass that have nothing to do with the Standard Model formulation." Eric Davis What Eric wrote above is wrong. He does not understand the Higgs mechanism origin of inertia at all! It does not depend at all on the finding of a real Higgs particle on-mass-shell. The Higgs-Goldstone origin of inertia is strictly a virtual quantum effect inside the coherent vacuum with order parameter phi. See for example the recent SLAC Summer School Lectures http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ss...s1/default.htm http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ss...s2/default.htm especially http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ss...age_10_jpg.htm For the Yukawa coupling formulae for the inertia of the quarks and leptons. This only depends on the charge neutral component magnitude of the order parameter |phi| = v. Eric simply is speaking off the top of his head. The mass of the Higgs is in the small vibrations around v! It has nothing to do direction with the equilibrium value v about which the small vibrations occur. Consider a harmonic oscillator d^2(x - v)/dt^2 + f^2(x - v) = 0 For small linear oscillations around the "equilibrium" v from SSB in the vacuum probably from the SU(2)hypercharge group. The potential is U = k(x - v)^2 = k(x^2 + v^2 - 2vx) dU/dx = 2kx - 2v d^2U/dx^2 = 2k The mass m of the on-mass shell Higgs here is from f^2 = k/m It is independent of v! The Yukawa coupling for the inertia of the quarks and leptons in the standard model does not at all depend on the actual rest mass of the on-mass-shell Higgs particle. Where does v come from? It comes from the entirely different equation (I do U(1) SSB for math simplicity in a toy model) V(psi) = a|psi|^2 + b|psi|^4 dV/d|psi| = 0 2a|psi| + 4b|psi|^3 = 0 a + 2b|psi|^2 = 0 i.e. a + 2bv^2 = 0 v^2 = - a/2b 0 is SSB Note the Yukawa coupling formula for the inertia of the quarks and the leptons in http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ss...age_10_jpg.htm has fermion inertia ~ v In contrast the boson inertia is in http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ss...age_09_jpg.htm Eric Davis has raised a RED HERRING based on his ignorance of the standard model. |
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