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"How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?"
"Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds." - A. Einstein One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of light is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the language of physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us consider an example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards Earth. On the rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so that, at the instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same distance from Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along the route, test stations observe the passage of the signals and report that the signals pass each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the requirements of Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals only in their frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..) This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air. The velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of propagation of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of the sound of a gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the velocity of the bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty, however, if we regard the photons which makeup the radio wave as particles which are emitted from the source and travel ballistically to the target. Such would seem to be the concept of the propagation of light when one considers the apparent banishment of the Aether following the acceptance of Special Relativity. If there is no medium, then the observably same velocity of the two radio waves could only occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its velocity with respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity of its transmitted signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together. The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem if one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a medium (e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to require that some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in physical processes is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the existence of the classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true since the Aether has been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has never been shown to be non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the fact that physicists have jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone conclusion. Dr. Einstein did warn that the non-existence of the Aether had not been proven, what had been proven was that it was not necessary for computations of relativistic effects. The source material for this posting may be found in http://einsteinhoax/hoax.htm ("The Einstein Hoax" {1997}); http://einsteinhoax/gravity.htm; ("Gravity" {1987}); and http://einsteinhoax/relcor.htm ("Corrections to Special Relativity" {1997}). EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. All of the Newsposts made by this site may be viewed at http://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm . Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. E-mail:- The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one exception for which a correction was provided. |
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Rettel wrote:
"How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?" "Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds." - A. Einstein Oh the delicious irony of that quotation! [snip ignorant crap] http://www.freefarts.com/farts.html Move cursor over blinkers to hear Retic's lecture. Psychotic ineducable boring spammer retic (Ernest Wittke), You see yourself this way, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete3.png http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf http://www.****inggoogleit.com/ http://www.meninhats.com/d/20040430.html http://www.you-moron.com/ http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gr...uthor%3Awittke http://b5.sdvc.uwyo.edu/bab5/snds/argcstpd.wav http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) [snip] Hey, stooopid spammer Ernest Wittke - Do you want EVIDENCE? Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit, with full relativistic corrections being applied. NAVSTAR Block II GPS satellites (currently being launched as replacements) have two rubidium and two cesium atomic clocks. Internal inconsistencies in SR (meaning inconsistencies of a purely mathematical logical nature) automatically lead to contradictions in number theory, itself, and arithmetic, since the mathematics of Minkowski geometry is equiconsistent with the theory of real numbers and with arithmetic. http://optoelectronics.perkinelmer.com/content/Datasheets/rfs2f.pdf http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/tests.html Mathematics of gravitation http://wugrav.wustl.edu/people/CMW/update98.pdf http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/AspenW04/Papers/lorimer1.pdf http://www.vallis.org/publications/tesidott.pdf Equivalence Principle testing http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0111236 Geometric structure of reality http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0103044 http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140 GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7 http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2001-4/index.html http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311039 http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Relativity/SR/experiments.html Experimental constraints on General Relativity http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf Nature 425 374 (2003) http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjjacob/Lecture16.pdf http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html Relativity in the GPS system http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9909014 Amer. J. Phys. 71 770 (2003) Phys. Rev. Lett. 92 121101 (2004) falling light http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html http://metrologyforum.tm.agilent.com/pdf/flying_clock_math.pdf http://metrologyforum.tm.agilent.com/cesium.shtml http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0008012 Hafele-Keating Experiment http://www.hawaii.edu/suremath/SRtwinParadox.html http://physics.syr.edu/courses/modules/LIGHTCONE/twins.html Twin Paradox Science 303(5661) 1143;1153 (2004) http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0401086 http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0312071 http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-5/index.html http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1473_1.asp Deeply relativistic neutron star binaries http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0405160 Black hole evaporation Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004) http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml No aether http://fsweb.berry.edu/academic/mans/clane/ http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/17/3/7 No Lorentz violation http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0409089 Spin-2 gravitons have problems http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics.strings/msg/ba31a00f5f26277a (so does the proposal) http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0411113 http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/pdf/prl83-3585.pdf http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301024 Phys. Rev. Lett. 93 261101 (2004) Nordtvedt Effect http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/ http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0403292 http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310723 WMAP + Sloane Digital Sky Survey http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0404175 Dark matter candidates http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/March01/Carroll/frames.html Carroll on what it all means. Special Relativity is physics on a topologically trivial Lorentzian manifold with a metric whose curvature tensor is zero. This is a perfectly diffeomorphism-invariant condition and does not require any particular coordinate choice. It is invariant under the full group of diffeomorphisms. The Poincare group is the group of *isometries* of the metric in special relativity. The Special Relativity metric is *non-dynamical* (unlike GR). It defines the coupling *constants* of your theory. If you change the metric in any nontrivial way you are changing your theory. An operation can only be called a "symmetry" of a special-relativistic (non-gravitational) theory if it preserves the metric, and therefore the symmetry of special-relativistic theories is the Poincare group only. General Relativity (gravitation) has a dynamic metric. NIM A 355 537 (1995) Physics Letters B 328 103 (1994) Physical Review Letters 64 1697 (1990) Physical Review Letters 39 1051 (1977) Physical Review 135 B1071 (1964) Physics Letters 12 260 (1964) Europhysics Letters 56(2) 170-174 (2001) General Relativity and Gravitation 34(9) 1371 (2002) http://fourmilab.to/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/sr/ae_1905_error.htm http://www.physics.gatech.edu/people/faculty/finkelstein/relativity.pdf Longitudinal and transverse mass Physics Today 58(3) 34 (2005) Time passage, equator vs. poles http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306076 http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/gps/absolute-gps-1meter-3.ASP http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/gpsuser/gpsuser.pdf http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/sigspec/default.htm http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/icd200/default.htm http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.html http://sirius.chinalake.navy.mil/satpred/ http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html http://egtphysics.net/GPS/RelGPS.htm http://www.schriever.af.mil/gps/Current/current.oa1 http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Right, like your head has ever been withdrawn from your ass - even when you ****. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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Rettel wrote:
"How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?" Thanks for registering "The Einstein Hoax" at crank dot net. http://www.google.com/search?q=einst...Awww.crank.net |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:12:20 -0700, Uncle Al
wrote: [snip ignorant crap] IOW, Uncle Dickhead has no clue as to how light determines how fast to travel. ahahaha... Stoopid ineducable moron. ahahaha.. But then again, the same could be said of the other ass kissers and mental midgets on sci.physics: Dick van de merde, Sam Wormlette, Autistic Bilge, Billy Bobba, etc... ahahaha... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... Louis Savain Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It: http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm |
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This statement is false.
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On 22 Aug 2005 09:33:30 -0700, wrote:
This statement is false. Really? Is that true? w. |
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