PARROT!!

no need to be jealous of parrots
you have to be just angry at them by hidering
advance of science.
the anger is because trhey realy dont know what they are talking about
and they even feel it intuitively but dont addmit it.

and that is a kind of cheating.
the teachers of our secondary school kept on telling us:
'dont be paqrrots use your own mind' !!
so i keep it in my mind all laong my life...
and mind you they were good teachers!
just a pitty that you didnt have such teachers.


Y.Porat
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oups.com...
you mean not playing the game is winning...

Lady.


You do know what LC is don't you?

DARTH VADER wrote:

What exactly is space time ?
Why cant we travell through the 4th dimention (time axis)?

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What exactly is space time ?
its union of 3+1 Dimension,

Why cant we travell through the 4th dimention (time axis)?
We do that all the time,

On 17 Aug 2005 20:42:12 -0700, "Igor" wrote:


Traveler wrote:
On 17 Aug 2005 14:27:30 -0700, "Igor" wrote:



DARTH VADER wrote:
What exactly is space time ?

A four dimensional metric space of indefinite signature.

Why cant we travell through the 4th dimention (time axis)?

We can and we do. The rotating second hand on my watch is a clear
indication of this. Time on this level seems to have a directional
arrow associated with it, but that is a thermodynamic consequence
corresponding to increasing entropy. On a fundamental level, most laws
of physics don't care which direction time goes.

Time does not change. Time is an abstract parameter used to denote
change in physics.

Only in Newtonian physics. In relativity time is a coordinate.

Funny, but I doubt that nature gives a rat's ass which physics you
use.

To describe a change in time would require a
meta-time, and a meta-meta-time for the meta-time, ad infinitum.

Wrong. All changes in spacetime in relativity are compared to
invariant proper time intervals along the worldline. Coordinate time
and proper time are two entirely different things.

Certainly. Proper time is measured in seconds, as it should. But a
coordinate is measured in meters, right? Remember ct? Now the meter is
a unit of what, again? ct is measured in what, again?

Nasty Little Truth About Spacetime Physics:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Crackpots/notorious.htm

Don't let the morons in the physics community fool you, especially the
idiots, Dick van de merde and Sam Wormley. ahahaha... ahahaha...


What are you jealous that they are truly educated in this area and seem
to know what the hell they're talking about?

Jealous, your ass. Wormley and van de merde still can't figure out
that nothing can move in spacetime. But then again, neither can you.
You are all a bunch of ****ing idiots. Not to mention ass kissers.
ahahaha... ahahaha...

And one more thing, before I forget. I got your education hanging,
right here. ahahaha...

Louis Savain

Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

Dirt strikes again with inferior interpretation of the subject of
spacetime scatterrly grapped from various sources he has (google,
yahoo, pub, playground, etc.)

This has nothing whatsoever to do with Einstein.
A wordline is just a way of describing the path of an object by
giving its place as a function of time.
Example:
{ x = 0
{ y = v0 cos(pi/3) t
{ z = v0 sin(pi/3) t - 1/2 g t^2
are the parametric equations of the wordline of a bullet, shot in the
y-direction with initial speed v0, tilted to an angle of 60 degrees
and where the acceleration due to gravity is given by g.

This was what you were supposed to provide as an answer in high school
but of course you failed and the answers stuck to your mind.


The start of the bullet at time t=0 is given has (x,y,z) = (0,0,0),
So in the coordinate system that we have chosen, this event in
spacetimes gets the coordinates (t,x,y,z) = (0,0,0,0).

Look at the contradiction impecile Moortel. First you declare an event
IN spacetime.

This way the past, present and future of an idealized point-object
is described by its worldline.

The set of all possible events happening at all places and at all
possible times is called spacetime.


But you said impecile, that the EVENT happened in spacetime before.
Now, you come again and spew that spacetime is the set of events.

Now, if you do not understand this is a big problem, I mean the problem
you are having, and it needs immediate treatment, I of course
understand why. hahahahahahaha....

Since in this spacetime one needs 4 numbers to describe events,
we call it 4-dimensional.

Hello crank.


None of this has anything to do with relativity or with Einstein.
This could be lesson 1 in every elementary physics course.

A lesson that obviously you did not have.

[snip]

Listen impecile: your apparent effort to convince people that you know
something, other than copy and paste is obvious. So I will give you a
little lesson now:

Spacetime, defined as the set of all {possible} spatiotemoral relations
of bodies in motion was an idea first put forward by Leibniz. It is
problematic, because the use of the word {possible} raises serious
questions. as Sklar points out in this celebrated book on spacetime,
which you have not read, otherwise you would not have posted this crap.


Besides the use of the word "possible", there are other serious
problems in your definition of spacetime which I will not go into
because you are not in a mental state to be enlightened yet. These
problem, prompted Newton assert that spacetime is not a set of events
but an arena of some sort, where the events take place and it exists
independently of the events. This is a much more reasonable explanation
but it fails verification ( at least till now).

Paranoid Einstein, having obviously misunderstood Newton and Leibniz,
went ahead ande invented the block universe where the concept of a
"possible event" does not apply any more because all events are
eternal. Thus, using paranoia as a tool, offered a ridiculus answer to
a very difficult problem known from the time of the Eleatics (c. 550
BC) (does this name ring a bell to you impecile?).

For physicists, spacetime is a math concept that helps them develop
models and nothing more. But anyone who uses the word spacetime,
anywhere, in any text, without making an explicit note that this is a
pure math concept, is calling on metaphysics.

Mike





Dirk Vdm

there is nothing wrong with spacetime


the only wrong thing is that
space-time is not curved and not shmerved

it has no properties at all beside hosting matter

and all the other relativity aspects are right (imho)
ATB
Y.Porat
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"Mike" wrote in message oups.com...

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

Dirt strikes again with inferior interpretation of the subject of
spacetime scatterrly grapped from various sources he has (google,
yahoo, pub, playground, etc.)

And don't forget my personal site as the most superb source
of them all:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...bles/Dirt.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../Imbecile.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../HiPsycho.html

Dirk Vdm

Because of your high level of stupidity, I will show a little more
patience with your ignorance. Above, you believe that s-t is "of this
world", a real place and not a fictional math construct as everyone
else knows. You're all alone out on that limb, idiot. How does it
feel to be the only one in the world to believe in something no one
else believes?

The only way you can argue your stupid belief is by using childish
tactics in attacking your tormentors. You have gone to great lengths
to set up and maintain your websites just because you have nothing that
makes sense with which to argue.

"TomGee" wrote in message oups.com...
Because of your high level of stupidity, I will show a little more
patience with your ignorance. Above, you believe that s-t is "of this
world", a real place and not a fictional math construct as everyone
else knows.

No, dog breath, above I show what a pathetically ignorant
and stupid prat you are.

And it turns out that not only you are totally ignorant about
physics, you haven't even got a clue how Usenet works:
"This moron sends your replies..."
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...TERRORIST.html

That's two in one day. Nice :-)

Dirk Vdm

Traveler wrote:
On 17 Aug 2005 20:42:12 -0700, "Igor" wrote:
Only in Newtonian physics. In relativity time is a coordinate.

Funny, but I doubt that nature gives a rat's ass which physics you
use.

Nature does what it does. The job of physics is to figure
out which description is correct. The Newtonian physics
is incorrect in its description of time.

Nature doesn't care whether we get it right or not,
but Newton is clearly getting it wrong.

Don't worry about your usual insane Tourette's-syndrome
response, I realize that you don't understand a word of
what I just said.

- Randy