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Do Virtual Photons Exist?
"Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds." - A. Einstein The Aether was original conceived as a means of explaining "forces acting at a distance" (i.e.- electric, magnetic, gravitation, et al). When the idea of the classical Aether was abandoned early in the century, there was a need to find another means of explaining these forces because, if it were not possible to explain them by some other means then it would be necessary to retain the Aether and the absolute reference frame it represented. The elimination of that reference frame was an absolute imperative of the political agenda of the academic community. Fortunately, the advent of quantum theory allowed Dr. Feynmann to generate the idea that these forces were produced by the exchange of "virtual particles". These particles were so named because they popped into and out of existence for periods of time that were so short that the rules of quantum physics insured that their temporary existence did not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy. It is easy to understand how these particles could provide a force over a distance. A "virtual particle" emitted from one point would absorb momentum and travel ballistically to another where it would release that momentum. The net result would be force acting between the points. The situation is analogous to the effect observed when two athletes throw a medicine ball back and forth to each other. Difficulty with the analogy is that the throwing of the medicine ball can only produce a repulsive force; it cannot produce an attractive force! The mathematics associated with the force production by "virtual particles" particles, however, does allow for the production of attractive forces, but, since no explanation as to how this is possible is provided, one is left with the suspicion that this is another example of a solution where an effect that is allowed by the mathematics involved is being used outside of the constraints imposed by the physical realities of the problem. These realities require a rather unusual exchange of momentum to be involved. In order to produce the attractive force, the "virtual photon" would have to be launched with a momentum represented by a propagation direction away from its target, reverse its momentum (direction of travel), go past its target and repeat the process so as to acquire a momentum in the required direction as it struck the target from behind. (If anyone can provide a different explanation I would like to hear it.) Of course, if the "virtual photon" were propagating through a medium, such as the Aether, there would be no conceptual problem, the "virtual particle could make the necessary exchange of momentum with the medium. (A boomerang returns to the thrower because it exchanges momentum with a medium, air. But then, if the Aether were present we would have no need to consider the existence of "virtual photons". There is no need to resort to theoretical arguments, however. If virtual photons produce electric and magnetic forces, they should be observable. Consider a large electromagnet, such as is used in an MIR machine. A recent news report described an unfortunate incident where a steel oxygen bottle was not properly mounted to its wall bracket. The magnetic field of the MIR pulled the bottle to the machine and killed a boy who was being scanned. It is obvious that the room was filled with a large and extremely powerful magnetic field. If "virtual photons" were present in that room, they would have produced a level of electromagnetic interference that would scream their presence. If electric and magnetic forces were produced by "virtual photons", they would have to also effect any electromagnetic detectors in their vicinity and one would expect that both natural and man-made electric and magnetic fields would render electromagnetic communication impossible. An experiment is described in Chapter 4 of "The Einstein Hoax" in which a strong electric field is produced inside of an evacuated chamber and an antenna is located between the electrodes. Using a radiation detector that covers the entire spectrum would allow the detection of any spurious photons that acted to produce the attractive force. Its a simple experiment and is one which should be performed it science is to accept "virtual photons" as meaningful. 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Elif wrote:
Do Virtual Photons Exist? Some Frequently Asked Questions About Virtual Particles http://hermes.physics.adelaide.edu.a...particles.html Thanks for registering "The Einstein Hoax" at crank dot net. http://www.google.com/search?q=einst...Awww.crank.net |
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Elif wrote:
Do Virtual Photons Exist? [snip 100 lines of ignorant crap] http://www.freefarts.com/farts.html Move cursor over blinkers to hear Retic's lecture. Psychotic ineducable boring spammer retic (Ernest Wittke), You see yourself this way, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete3.png http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf http://www.****inggoogleit.com/ http://www.meninhats.com/d/20040430.html http://www.you-moron.com/ http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gr...uthor%3Awittke http://b5.sdvc.uwyo.edu/bab5/snds/argcstpd.wav http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) [snip] Hey, stooopid spammer Ernest Wittke - Do you want EVIDENCE? Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit, with full relativistic corrections being applied. NAVSTAR Block II GPS satellites (currently being launched as replacements) have two rubidium and two cesium atomic clocks. Internal inconsistencies in SR (meaning inconsistencies of a purely mathematical logical nature) automatically lead to contradictions in number theory, itself, and arithmetic, since the mathematics of Minkowski geometry is equiconsistent with the theory of real numbers and with arithmetic. http://optoelectronics.perkinelmer.com/content/Datasheets/rfs2f.pdf http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/tests.html Mathematics of gravitation http://wugrav.wustl.edu/people/CMW/update98.pdf http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/AspenW04/Papers/lorimer1.pdf Equivalence Principle testing http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0111236 Geometric structure of reality http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0103044 http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140 GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7 http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2001-4/index.html http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311039 http://www.weburbia.demon.co.uk/physics/experiments.html Experimental constraints on General Relativity http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf Nature 425 374 (2003) http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjjacob/Lecture16.pdf http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html Relativity in the GPS system http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9909014 Amer. J. Phys. 71 770 (2003) Phys. Rev. Lett. 92 121101 (2004) falling light http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html http://metrologyforum.tm.agilent.com/pdf/flying_clock_math.pdf http://metrologyforum.tm.agilent.com/cesium.shtml http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0008012 Hafele-Keating Experiment http://www.hawaii.edu/suremath/SRtwinParadox.html http://physics.syr.edu/courses/modules/LIGHTCONE/twins.html Twin Paradox Science 303(5661) 1143;1153 (2004) http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0401086 http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0312071 http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-5/index.html http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1473_1.asp Deeply relativistic neutron star binaries http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0405160 Black hole evaporation Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004) http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml No aether http://fsweb.berry.edu/academic/mans/clane/ http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/17/3/7 No Lorentz violation http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0409089 Spin-2 gravitons have problems http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics.strings/msg/ba31a00f5f26277a (so does the proposal) http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0411113 http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/pdf/prl83-3585.pdf http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301024 Phys. Rev. Lett. 93 261101 (2004) Nordtvedt Effect http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/ http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0403292 http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310723 WMAP + Sloane Digital Sky Survey http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0404175 Dark matter candidates http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/March01/Carroll/frames.html Carroll on what it all means. Special Relativity is physics on a topologically trivial Lorentzian manifold with a metric whose curvature tensor is zero. This is a perfectly diffeomorphism-invariant condition and does not require any particular coordinate choice. It is invariant under the full group of diffeomorphisms. The Poincare group is the group of *isometries* of the metric in special relativity. The Special Relativity metric is *non-dynamical* (unlike GR). It defines the coupling *constants* of your theory. If you change the metric in any nontrivial way you are changing your theory. An operation can only be called a "symmetry" of a special-relativistic (non-gravitational) theory if it preserves the metric, and therefore the symmetry of special-relativistic theories is the Poincare group only. General Relativity (gravitation) has a dynamic metric. NIM A 355 537 (1995) Physics Letters B 328 103 (1994) Physical Review Letters 64 1697 (1990) Physical Review Letters 39 1051 (1977) Physical Review 135 B1071 (1964) Physics Letters 12 260 (1964) Europhysics Letters 56(2) 170-174 (2001) General Relativity and Gravitation 34(9) 1371 (2002) http://fourmilab.to/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/sr/ae_1905_error.htm http://www.physics.gatech.edu/people/faculty/finkelstein/relativity.pdf Longitudinal and transverse mass Physics Today 58(3) 34 (2005) Time passage, equator vs. poles http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306076.pdf http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/gps/absolute-gps-1meter-3.ASP http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/gpsuser/gpsuser.pdf http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/sigspec/default.htm http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/icd200/default.htm http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.html http://sirius.chinalake.navy.mil/satpred/ http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html http://egtphysics.net/GPS/RelGPS.htm http://www.schriever.af.mil/gps/Current/current.oa1 http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Right, like your head has ever been withdrawn from your ass - even when you ****. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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