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Quantum Gravity Foam - John Archibald Wheeler's Greatest Blunder?



 
 
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Old April 5th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.military
Jack Sarfatti
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Default Quantum Gravity Foam - John Archibald Wheeler's Greatest Blunder?

Gravity totally disappears at the Planck phase transition! All inertia
disappears. We are back to the pre-inflationary unstable chaotic
globally flat Minkowski vacuum. All rest masses disappear! That's why
quantizing guv is UNRENORMALIZABLE.No gravitons and no quantum gravity
foam is to be found. That idea was Wheeler’s greatest blunder. Great
men make great mistakes and lesser men waste their careers chasing after
them.
All attempts to re-quantize emergent ODLRO fields fail, e.g.. quantum
gravity is unrenormalizable!

"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler

Therefore, all attempts at "quantum gravity" must fail!

Why? It's the wrong question!

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Old April 6th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Quantum Gravity Foam - John Archibald Wheeler's Greatest Blunder?

From Osher Doctorow

I like "different phase" and "no mass" seems interesting, but are there
any "positive" characteristics? Please describe a few.

Osher Doctorow

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Old April 6th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Quantum Gravity Foam - John Archibald Wheeler's Greatest Blunder?

Jack Sarfatti wrote:


"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler

[snip]

Why? It's the wrong question!


I'm confused. Which one is the wrong question? "What is the Question?",
or 'Why?"
if 'Why", what is the question, and if 'What is the question', then why?

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Old April 6th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.military
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Default Quantum Gravity Foam - John Archibald Wheeler's Greatest Blunder?


"Jack Sarfatti" wrote in message
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Gravity totally disappears at the Planck phase transition! All inertia
disappears. We are back to the pre-inflationary unstable chaotic
globally flat Minkowski vacuum. All rest masses disappear! That's why
quantizing guv is UNRENORMALIZABLE.No gravitons and no quantum gravity
foam is to be found. That idea was Wheeler’s greatest blunder. Great
men make great mistakes and lesser men waste their careers chasing after
them.
All attempts to re-quantize emergent ODLRO fields fail, e.g.. quantum
gravity is unrenormalizable!

"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler

Therefore, all attempts at "quantum gravity" must fail!

Why? It's the wrong question!




Well, at least Wheeler liked firecrackers!


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Old April 6th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.military
Mark Fergerson
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Default Quantum Gravity Foam - John Archibald Wheeler's Greatest Blunder?

Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Gravity totally disappears at the Planck phase transition! All inertia
disappears. We are back to the pre-inflationary unstable chaotic
globally flat Minkowski vacuum. All rest masses disappear! That's why
quantizing guv is UNRENORMALIZABLE.No gravitons and no quantum gravity
foam is to be found. That idea was Wheeler’s greatest blunder. Great
men make great mistakes and lesser men waste their careers chasing after
them.
All attempts to re-quantize emergent ODLRO fields fail, e.g.. quantum
gravity is unrenormalizable!

"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler

Therefore, all attempts at "quantum gravity" must fail!

Why? It's the wrong question!


Of course it is. You have all the pieces but haven't fitted them
together. Think about topology and compactification, and the fact that
all energy, regardless of its form, gravitates globally _but not
locally_ (at the Planck scale). Now, ask yourself how different point
particles can possibly exhibit multiple different force interactions (be
sources of multiple different fields); it's obvious to me that the
concept of "point" must be re-examined. At our scale, all points are the
same size, but at _their_ scale(s), they aren't!

Do I have to state explicitly that _which_ compactified fields,
associated in _what_ size "points", determine the rest masses of said
"points"?

Once you've grokked that, it should be obvious how the
"pre-inflationary unstable chaotic globally flat Minkowski vacuum" can
possibly be locally chaotically unstable, yet globally deterministically
flat, and why you should _not_ think of inflation as a one-time event.
Hint: in this context, what do "local" and "global" mean in terms of
particle interactions, and what determines the distinction?

Bottom line, you can't _arbitrarily_ renormalize anything. Don't try
to teach Mother Nature to suck eggs; let _her_ show _you_ how it's done.

Scuse me, I need another toke.

Mark L. Fergerson
 




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