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hanson wrote: [hanson] ahahaha......AHAHAHAHA.......ahahaha.........AHAH AHAHA... Hey, hanson, I thought I'd join you. heeheeheehee We have a wonderful tradition in our group, "Lunch with nature". Booze is prohibited in government facilities, so at least once per year we go off site to the neighboring park where booze is illegal anyway, but none of us is going to be fired from the Izaak Walton Nature Preserve. There was some wine left over, and I was the designated non-driver, so I'm not sure how much work I'll get done in what's left of today. heeheeheehee That's the other thing, I tend to giggle. Well, there goes genius. -- "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin |
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote: Why? If no why, not a valid reply... Because you are dead wrong that is why. There were dozens of seminal geniuses in physics in the decade from 1900-1935, when quantum theory was new. Of those I can reel off a few. Bohr, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Jordan, Born, Dirac, De Broglie, Pauli. And that is just a subset of the theoretical types that I can think of off the top of my head. Quantum theory was not the work of single genius as was relativity theory. Quantum theory is where the young boys went. They called it "Kid Physics" in those days because of the young men who participated, many in their twenties. Look up Solvay Conference on Google and see who attended. Bob Kolker |
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"robert j. kolker" wrote in message ...
Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote: Why? If no why, not a valid reply... Because you are dead wrong that is why. There were dozens of seminal geniuses in physics in the decade from 1900-1935, when quantum theory was new. Of those I can reel off a few. Bohr, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Jordan, Born, Dirac, De Broglie, Pauli. And that is just a subset of the theoretical types that I can think of off the top of my head. Quantum theory was not the work of single genius as was relativity theory. Quantum theory is where the young boys went. They called it "Kid Physics" in those days because of the young men who participated, many in their twenties. Look up Solvay Conference on Google and see who attended. Bob Kolker So you haven't understand yet. The fact that there are many "workers" in a field doesn't MEAN that there is not a single source. In fact, all of them had a very genial idea, am I right? And they developed it to create a whole field; each one contribuing an aspect. And the field in a way is complete. But also, is there a hierarchy of ideas in their ideas? That is, do you have a root idea from which stems another, and until you have that one, comes the other, etc? I guess not. So pyou are postulating that each one of them "suddenly" had an intuition that appropriately matched the other aspects until a complete field appeared... Like several people imagining a form and when they compare their forms together a regular polyhedron is the result... I don't think so. By Occam's Razor, which expresses the fundamental economicity of of Nature, it is easier to accept there was ONE MIND that had the WHOLE intuition, saw the parts AND their relationships, and then propagated those aspects to other people to work them... In this particular example it maskes sense to do that, as each one can fundament each aspect more quickly than a single individual. The result is an ALMOST complete field, which just requires experimental corroborations and a few ideas that CTUALLY stem from it. I believe it was Bohr the great Physicist... |
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote:
So you haven't understand yet. The fact that there are many "workers" in a field doesn't MEAN that there is not a single source. Nor does it mean that there is a single source.. You are basing a premise on a very weak foundation. In fact, all of them had a very genial idea, am I right? genial? And they developed it to create a whole field; each one contribuing an aspect. And the field in a way is complete. But also, is there a hierarchy of ideas in their ideas? ...no, merely a common desire to learn and advance our understanding of how the universe works. That is, do you have a root idea from which stems another, and until you have that one, comes the other, etc? No. There are plenty of examples of scientists on completely different continents coming up with the same breakthrough in science at about the same time.. then it is a matter of who publishes first.. after which they sometimes collaborate on refining their ideas. |
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Uncle Al wrote in message ...
[snip] party. Campus Black activism loudly unconditionally demanded - and got (amidst hushed laughter) - a purely Black dorm. Perhaps they missed the lecture on the civil rights movement. Perhaps they had merely risen to their level of competence. You're ****ting me...well, mabey not. Life isn't supposed to imitate comedy. Not on the same scale, but just as ...amusing, During my 2 years of middleschool, other than the fact it was crap - one particular thing sticks out in my mind. Black kids fighting anyone who wanted to sit in the very back of the bus. |
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"Morituri-Max" wrote in message ...
Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote: So you haven't understand yet. The fact that there are many "workers" in a field doesn't MEAN that there is not a single source. Nor does it mean that there is a single source.. You are basing a premise on a very weak foundation. In fact, all of them had a very genial idea, am I right? genial? And they developed it to create a whole field; each one contribuing an aspect. And the field in a way is complete. But also, is there a hierarchy of ideas in their ideas? ..no, merely a common desire to learn and advance our understanding of how the universe works. That is, do you have a root idea from which stems another, and until you have that one, comes the other, etc? No. There are plenty of examples of scientists on completely different continents coming up with the same breakthrough in science at about the same time.. then it is a matter of who publishes first.. after which they sometimes collaborate on refining their ideas. Depends on the idea. Obvious ideas will be anticipated. Genial ones belong to a single individual and may never be discovered again. You have to refine your conception of knowledge. Mine is a tree. |
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Morituri-Max wrote:
Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote: snips In fact, all of them had a very genial idea, am I right? genial? Never let an ESOL student use a spell checker or you will get really silly output. Actually, that might explain half of his posts. Someone just started typing randomly and then ran it through the spellchecker numerous times, randomly selecting words from the choices lists presented when something ambiguous fails the spellcheck. Sort of like a surrealism generator 'bot. -- The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may often assume the appearance, and produce the effects, of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy. --Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" |
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