Genius is best distinguished by the ability to get lost in a problem,
where I use the term "lost" to mean "unaware of self".

Genius will often risk all, abandoning all teachings at the risk of
having to redo them all oneself, dispensing with preconceived notions
as a petty failing that gets in the way of insight, stepping out into
a dark forest without any sign of light or rest or nourishment.

Genius also knows what it has to do or absorb in order to achieve a
goal. If it means learning or developing a new tool, so be it. If it
means mastering a whole suite of skills first before taking the first
new step, so be it.

Genius doesn't take much stock in personally directed comments,
because the delight is in the solution of the problem, and both the
problem nor the solution exist in their own right, neither a source of
pride nor of scorn. The truth is the truth.

Now, every human being who has been called a genius is also a human
being, and there are lots of moments when they lose the traits above
and exhibit something other than genius. But it is also possible for
every person to exhibit genius now and again.

You seem to think that genius is a form of self-elevation. Quite the
contrary. True genius is self-deprecation to the cause of solving a
problem.

PD

Uncle Al wrote:


1200+ students started in Moo U

Which U is Moo U?

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" wrote:

Uncle Al wrote:


1200+ students started in Moo U

Moo U is Michigan State University in East Lansing, complete with
Plexiglas airlocks in cow flanks and the biggest cow hairball in the
world (was displayed in Anthony Hall). Mention of baby raper Gordon
Sabine, the MSU out-of-state recruiter from the 60s and 70s, will
still gore old wounds. Moo U at the time did have a freshy built
chemistry complex a block long and half that wide, 5 1/2 stories high
and three stories deep. The open field behind Chemistry had 8-foot
high ditchweed growing in the summers. It eased our pain. That field
is now buildings. I lived in Abbot Hall which has of late boasted
about upgrading its toilet facilities, presumably now including
running water and flush toilets. 50 guys/john. Jocks got
semi-private suites in the high rise dorms. "Kill Bubba Kill," etc.

University of Michigan in Ann Arbor is famous for eliminating
objective qualification as an admissions standard. OTOH it helped
remove their balancing pejorative Moo U vs. Jew U. OTOH, it isn't
much of an undergrad school anymore.

A not insubstantial fraction of each Moo U freshman class failed to
appear for their sophomore year. State law said Moo U had to admit
pretty much any Michigan resident who qualified. Anybody who
didn't/couldn't pull a 2.0 GPA voluntarily voted themselves out of the
party. Campus Black activism loudly unconditionally demanded - and
got (amidst hushed laughter) - a purely Black dorm. Perhaps they
missed the lecture on the civil rights movement. Perhaps they had
merely risen to their level of competence.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

(Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message . com...
P(n[IQ] q) = k for all C(g1,g2) where k - 0 when q - max(IQ
t=infinite)

The probability of there being more than one great intelligence
(genius) during a generation is near zero, and of course the
probability that two ro more intelligences coincide in time and place
out of an university is near impossibility. All instances of multi
genius generation can be explained sociologically by envy.

ROFL Not even a hint of a clue with this poster.

Harry C.

(Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message . com...
Uncle Al wrote in message ...

Hey ****head, you posted this crap and it was shoved back down your
throat. 1900-1930 with GR and QM; the Manhattan Project; Caltech and
MIT today; the Perimeter Institute. You are an empirical ass. Go
away and die.

Ah! A teen who didn`t read the rest of the thread, and does not enjoy
arguing and giving arguments, but just insulting. Please, save your
comments for your friends, not for my threads. Though I know it really
impacted your very limited conception of Reality and your adolescent
need to idolize paternal figures. There`s people who respects but is
not impressed by great intelligence and the products of obvious
inspiration on the current state of the Art.

Genius opens doors that didn`t exist before where there were no
discernible walls to look at.

Meow.

Harry C.

Uncle Al wrote in message ...
"Fabrizio J. Bonsignore" wrote:

Uncle Al wrote in message ...

Hey ****head, you posted this crap and it was shoved back down your
throat. 1900-1930 with GR and QM; the Manhattan Project; Caltech and
MIT today; the Perimeter Institute. You are an empirical ass. Go
away and die.

Ah! A teen who didn`t read the rest of the thread, and does not enjoy
arguing and giving arguments, but just insulting. Please, save your
comments for your friends, not for my threads. Though I know it really
impacted your very limited conception of Reality and your adolescent
need to idolize paternal figures. There`s people who respects but is
not impressed by great intelligence and the products of obvious
inspiration on the current state of the Art.

Genius opens doors that didn`t exist before where there were no
discernible walls to look at.

Splutter and puke. Genius sees what everybody else sees and thinks
what nobody else thought (Albert Szent-Györgyi). Note that Albert
busted a hump isolating and discovering ascorbic acid from tonnes of
steer adrenals. He did it in San Diego, CA while surrounded by orange
orchards.



You yourself are not overmuch intelligent. Had you any contact with
with top 0.1% of intelligence you would know that is dirt common:
statistically 290,000 folks in the US alone. Uncle Al's high school
cohort - a group of 35 nerds and geeks of both sexes - *averaged* over
1300 on the SAT. Caltech and MIT sophomore or above have nothing but
the best of the best who are survivors. The schools turn away a sea
of merely superior applicants.

No, from my point of view what you speak of is serendipity; Genius
with capital G is a constant source of marvels that cannot be
forgotten. Research thrives on well exploited serendipity through lots
of hard work and big numbers of researchers and projects. School
prepares serendipiters and calls them professionals; the more SAT you
have the more valuable will be your serendipity, that is, the harder
to spot. Geniuses instead form their own schools. How many novelties
do you expect from your 0.1% of top IQ? Great intelligence is to be
expected and we are billions. Genius instead is rare. Anybody working
with genetic algorithms comes to expect these rare individuals only
once or twice after many iterations, though your objective variable
keeps maximizing/minimizing with each iteration. In other words,
Genius is a global maxima, geniuses are local maxima.

Go worship at another altar. This one is taken.

!?

BTW, fool, Jews in/from the Pale of Settlement average 110 IQ or
slightly better. That gives about a fivefold enrichment in the
incidence of high intelligence at any level. The only important part
of an icepick is the working end.

Try working an icepick without handle!

Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote:

No, from my point of view what you speak of is serendipity; Genius
with capital G is a constant source of marvels that cannot be
forgotten. Research thrives on well exploited serendipity through lots

Most things in todays world that make everyones lives easier aren't the result
of genius's.. just lots of average folks with good attitudes that plug away at
problems day after day....

"Morituri-Max" wrote in message
...
Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote:
No, from my point of view what you speak of is serendipity;
Genius with capital G is a constant source of marvels that
cannot be forgotten.
Research thrives on well exploited serendipity through lots

[Max]
Most things in todays world that make everyones lives
easier aren't the result of genius's..
just lots of average folks with good attitudes that plug
away at problems day after day....

[hanson]
Amen, Max!....what you've said is, well, genius!
hanson

Harry Conover wrote:
(Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message . com...

Uncle Al wrote in message ...

Hey ****head, you posted this crap and it was shoved back down your
throat. 1900-1930 with GR and QM; the Manhattan Project; Caltech and
MIT today; the Perimeter Institute. You are an empirical ass. Go
away and die.


Ah! A teen who didn`t read the rest of the thread, and does not enjoy
arguing and giving arguments, but just insulting. Please, save your
comments for your friends, not for my threads. Though I know it really
impacted your very limited conception of Reality and your adolescent
need to idolize paternal figures. There`s people who respects but is
not impressed by great intelligence and the products of obvious
inspiration on the current state of the Art.

Genius opens doors that didn`t exist before where there were no
discernible walls to look at.


Meow.

I concur.

Meow.



--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"

"Uncle Al" wrote to
"Fabrizio J. Bonsignore" in message
...
BTW, fool, Jews in/from the Pale of Settlement average
110 IQ or slightly better. That gives about a fivefold
enrichment in the incidence of high intelligence at any level.
Uncle Al

[hanson]
ahahaha......AHAHAHAHA.......ahahaha.........AHAHA HAHA...
Only 5 times?.....Did you come up with this all by yourself or did
you plagiarize it from your Yiddisher doppelganger, Bob Kolker
who insisted that Jews were 5.5 times smarter.
Either way, you clearly show that Jews have become 10% dumber......
Sad, really sad. BUT, Google Groups for = "5.5 times smarter" =
Great fun!......ahahahaha.......ahahahahahahaha.....ahah ahanson