relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame. Einstein must be replaced by a
complete theory of relativity. but relativists will not admit this,
because he is their inerrant god.


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On 15 Sep 2004 04:58:22 -0500, lid
(Nth Complexity) wrote:

relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame. Einstein must be replaced by a
complete theory of relativity. but relativists will not admit this,
because he is their inerrant god.

If you say so.

When you develop this 'complete theory of relativity', let us know.



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Nth Complexity wrote:
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame. Einstein must be replaced by a
complete theory of relativity. but relativists will not admit this,
because he is their inerrant god.

Could you please stop trolling for answers to your homework or exam
questions?


Bye,
Bjoern

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Nth Complexity wrote:
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion.

Sorry, I've done your homework for you once already. I'll give you a
hint, though: consider the components of the length of the rod parallel
and perpendicular to the direction of motion.

--
Jon Bell Presbyterian College
Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA

lid (Nth Complexity) wrote in message ...
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame.

Odd. I recall very clearly doing each of the things you refer to
in homework assignments in my class on relativity. Perhaps you
are just naif. Have you in fact actually taken a university level
course in relativity? Or have you just read a few web sites?

Einstein must be replaced by a
complete theory of relativity.

Perhaps you mean relativity must be replaced. Einstein is dead.

Also, perhaps you will actually present some evidence there is
something wrong with relativity. Though I'm doubting it.

but relativists will not admit this,
because he is their inerrant god.

Yes. You are naif.
Socks

lid (Nth Complexity) wrote in message ...
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion.

Note to anti-relativists. When declaring what relativity
says, it's probably advisable first to read a text on
relativity to find out what relativity says. That way
you won't make obvious misstatements.

SR does indeed handle motion in arbitrary directions.
Lorentz contraction is along the direction of motion.

- Randy

lid (Nth Complexity) wrote in message ...
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame. Einstein must be replaced by a
complete theory of relativity. but relativists will not admit this,
because he is their inerrant god.


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Ever heard of vectors, you troll?

Nth Complexity wrote:

relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion.
[snip crap]

****ing imbecile. Shift your lazy ass and similarly apply beta as
below to relativistic contraction, being aware of Terrell rotation,
idiot.

Google
"Terrell rotation" 145 hits


Given any achievable velocities V1 and V2 and any finite lightspeed,
the sum of the velocities as viewed by any inertial observer cannot
exceed

(V1 + V2)/[1 +(V1)(V2)/c^2]

This is transformation of velocities parallel to the direction of
motion. For velocities at an arbitrary angle theta, Jackson gives

u_parallel = (u'_parallel + v)/(1+(v dot u')/c^2)
u_perp = u'_perp/(gamma_v(1+(v dot u')/c^2))

http://www.physics.umanitoba.ca/~souther/waves02/feb0402/sld011.htm

Relativistic doppler shift,
http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...v/reldop2.html
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~rfield/PHY2...es/chp39_2.pdf



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http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

lid (Nth Complexity) wrote in message ...
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame.

WTF? Since when?

lid (Nth Complexity) wrote in message ...
relativists tell us how much a rod contracts when it is moving
parallel or perpendicular to its length. but relativity does not tell
us how much a rod will contract if it makes an angle of theta with its
motion. and it does not tell us how this angle will change between the
resting frame and the moving frame. Einstein must be replaced by a
complete theory of relativity. but relativists will not admit this,
because he is their inerrant god.


Lot's of books on relativity do make predictions of the apparent
contraction of the rod at an angle. I think that so far you have not
been exposed to a sophisticated enough presentation of relativity.

Patrick