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I saw an interesting documentary several years ago, and it explained
the following: A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), moves along a straight line. This line formed, is the FIRST dimension. If the theoretical line were moved perpindicular to the first linear motion, then a plane is formed. The original dot would only see an edge of the plane, and therefore would not see the plane; it can only see 'length', but not breadth. this is the SECOND dimension. If the plane were moved upwards, it would form a cube, or the THIRD dimension. The original 2 dimensional plane would see the cubes length and width, but not it's height; therefore it would see the cube as a mere plane like itself. What direction does the cube move in, to form the 4th dimension? Is the 4th Dimension here around us, but are we unable to see it? |
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Jack wrote:
I saw an interesting documentary several years ago, and it explained the following: A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), moves along a straight line. This line formed, is the FIRST dimension. If the theoretical line were moved perpindicular to the first linear motion, then a plane is formed. The original dot would only see an edge of the plane, and therefore would not see the plane; it can only see 'length', but not breadth. this is the SECOND dimension. If the plane were moved upwards, it would form a cube, or the THIRD dimension. The original 2 dimensional plane would see the cubes length and width, but not it's height; therefore it would see the cube as a mere plane like itself. What direction does the cube move in, to form the 4th dimension? Is the 4th Dimension here around us, but are we unable to see it? One answer is to consider that the cube has duration, or extension in the "time direction". Observe it (from some hypothetical super-duperspace of five or so dimensions) long enough for its duration to be equivalent to the length of a side (at 3x10E8 meters = 1 second) and you have a hypercube. But that's not what most people mean when thinking of extra physical dimensions, mainly because of the severely limited mobility opportunities (time's arrow and all that). The nearest thing to a testable contention that physical dimensions above the three we see is the Kaluza-Klein idea (and derivatives thereof) that some dimensions are "curled up" rather like taking a slice of your plane and rolling it into a cylinder. From a distance it would look like a one-D line, but close up it would be revealed as two-D. Stack a bunch of them and you'd see a plane, and close up it would look a bit "thicker". Unfortunately, all tests done so far have eliminated the "reasonable" rolled diameters of these putative dimensional structures. Mark L. Fergerson |
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Jack wrote:
I saw an interesting documentary several years ago, and it explained the following: A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), moves along a straight line. This line formed, is the FIRST dimension. If the theoretical line were moved perpindicular to the first linear motion, then a plane is formed. The original dot would only see an edge of the plane, and therefore would not see the plane; it can only see 'length', but not breadth. this is the SECOND dimension. If the plane were moved upwards, it would form a cube, or the THIRD dimension. The original 2 dimensional plane would see the cubes length and width, but not it's height; therefore it would see the cube as a mere plane like itself. What direction does the cube move in, to form the 4th dimension? Is the 4th Dimension here around us, but are we unable to see it? Each successive translation is orthogonal to all the previous translations. Do the obvious. tesseract construction 2,100 hits hypercube construction 20,200 hits Robert Heinlein, "And He Built a Crooked House," 1940. http://math.cofc.edu/faculty/kasman/MATHFICT/mfview.php?callnumber=mf98 http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/heinlein/heinlein1.html Note that 1940 was 64 years ago. That is more than a half century. Go a head, punch it through your calculator and confirm. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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"Jack" wrote in message om...
} A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), snipped You have just described a nothing. If it has no length, width, or breadth, it is "not even a dot". |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message om... } A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), snipped You have just described a nothing. If it has no length, width, or breadth, it is "not even a dot". Does it burn, stooopid Space****, does it burn? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sp...O-8859-1&hl=en http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/spaceman/message.html 1) Where is the clock in the Mossbauer effect, Space****? http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ear/mossb.html 2) Fill in the following (the first one is mercy humped): (+1)(+1) = +1 (-1)(+1) = ? (+1)(-1) = ? (-1)(-1) = ? http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html Hafele-Keating Experiment for Space**** http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html Clock for Space**** http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf Clocks for Space**** http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9504017 Clocks for Space****. http://bkocay.cs.umanitoba.ca/Students/Theory.html The distorted cube http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/spaceman/ Space**** emulator http://www.hep.upenn.edu/~max/toe.html Chew on it http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/maths/spctime.htm http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/Fields2.pdf -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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"Uncle Al" wrote in message ... } Spaceman wrote: } } "Jack" wrote in message om... } } A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), } snipped } } You have just described a nothing. } If it has no length, width, or breadth, } it is "not even a dot". } } Does it burn, stooopid Space****, does it burn? It is "really" burning you and you prove it over and over. LOL Is your clock god falling down Al? Are you losing your "religion". LOL |
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Spaceman wrote:
It is "really" burning you and you prove it over and over. LOL Is your clock god falling down Al? Are you losing your "religion". LOL RIAWG Reality is a Word Game |
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"Jack" wrote in message om... I saw an interesting documentary several years ago, and it explained the following: A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), moves along a straight line. This line formed, is the FIRST dimension. If the theoretical line were moved perpindicular to the first linear motion, then a plane is formed. The original dot would only see an edge of the plane, and therefore would not see the plane; it can only see 'length', but not breadth. this is the SECOND dimension. If the plane were moved upwards, it would form a cube, or the THIRD dimension. The original 2 dimensional plane would see the cubes length and width, but not it's height; therefore it would see the cube as a mere plane like itself. What direction does the cube move in, to form the 4th dimension? Is the 4th Dimension here around us, but are we unable to see it? Maybe this helps: et Dirk Vdm |
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"J. Todd Wasson" wrote in message ... From: "Spaceman" Date: 9/5/2004 6:53 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: IFN_c.38118$3l3.33343@attbi_s03 "Jack" wrote in message . com... } A dot, (without length, width, or breadth), snipped You have just described a nothing. If it has no length, width, or breadth, it is "not even a dot". Oh my gosh, Spaceman lives :-) Actually he isn't - it is an emulator: http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/spaceman/ The real Spaceman is in jail for beating and torturing his kids when they came home from school and insisting that (-1)*(-1) = 1 Dirk Vdm |
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