So this man is sitting in Boston,
and his neighbors who happen to be twins that live in the next
apartment over, tell him that they are going to be test subjects
for the worshippers of relativity church.

The test will be that one twin will be sent to orbit
and the other twin will stay home.
Both twins will be carrying atomic clocks.

So the man reads the paper later that the twin who went
into orbit has returned and all the worhsippers in the church
of relativity say he is now younger than the other twin.
Yet Both the twins show up at the Earth mans house
late that night and he looks at his watch and
asks them who is older now.

They both look at him and say, simultaniously,
"Don't you know clocks can malfunction,
We are both still the same age silly Earth man."


James M Driscoll Jr.

Spaceman wrote:
[snip crap]

Does it burn, stooopid Space****, does it burn?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sp...O-8859-1&hl=en
http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/spaceman/message.html

1) Where is the clock in the Mossbauer effect, Space****?
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ear/mossb.html

2) Fill in the following (the first one is mercy humped):

(+1)(+1) = +1
(-1)(+1) = ?
(+1)(-1) = ?
(-1)(-1) = ?

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html
Hafele-Keating Experiment for Space****
http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
Clock for Space****
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf
Clocks for Space****
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9504017
Clocks for Space****.
http://bkocay.cs.umanitoba.ca/Students/Theory.html
The distorted cube
http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/spaceman/
Space**** emulator
http://www.hep.upenn.edu/~max/toe.html
Chew on it
http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/maths/spctime.htm
http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/Fields2.pdf


--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

Spaceman wrote:

snip

Missed that in the journals - when did that experiment happen? We have
real orbiting test platforms, but I don't recall this test.

What are the consistent returns from the currently orbiting test
platforms? My GPS system seems to work just fine.

I note that the "Earth man" is the only one who looked at his watch. Who
looked at the watch sent into orbit? Who checked the watch of: the
"Earth Man" against the stay at home twin, against the traveler? Why is
it important that once put back in the same frame, the twins (but not
the unobserved watches) can get back in local sync?

What is (-1)(-1)?

"Uncle Al" wrote in message ...
} Spaceman wrote:
} [snip crap]

Still burning you huh Al?
You love to worship in the house of relativity huh?
How is that all powerfull atomic clock god of yours doing?
LOL

"TMG" wrote in message ...
} Spaceman wrote:
}
} snip
}
} Missed that in the journals - when did that experiment happen? We have
} real orbiting test platforms, but I don't recall this test.

It was the side of reality that the relativity church refuses to admit is
the physical truth.

} What are the consistent returns from the currently orbiting test
} platforms? My GPS system seems to work just fine.

Your GPS has nothing to do with it.
Too bad you are so brainwashed that you actually think it does.

Does it burn TMG?
Is your church falling down around you and you still can't
grasp why a clock can malfunction?

Spaceman wrote:

"TMG" wrote in message ...
} Spaceman wrote:
}
} snip
}
} Missed that in the journals - when did that experiment happen? We have
} real orbiting test platforms, but I don't recall this test.

It was the side of reality that the relativity church refuses to admit is
the physical truth.

} What are the consistent returns from the currently orbiting test
} platforms? My GPS system seems to work just fine.

Your GPS has nothing to do with it.
Too bad you are so brainwashed that you actually think it does.

Does it burn TMG?
Is your church falling down around you and you still can't
grasp why a clock can malfunction?

unnnh - you snipped all of my questions. Why did you do that?

The parts you tried to answer don't make sense.

Which experiment or journal? Your answer doesn't make sense.

Why aren't the verifiable orbiting satellites important?

Why isn't the fact that all systems that make my GPS work indicate you
are flat out wrong important?

Does what burn?

What church?

What clock?

Spaceman wrote:
So this man is sitting in Boston,
and his neighbors who happen to be twins that live in the next
apartment over, tell him that they are going to be test subjects
for the worshippers of relativity church.

The test will be that one twin will be sent to orbit
and the other twin will stay home.
Both twins will be carrying atomic clocks.

You're so ****ing stupid it must hurt you everytime your ass tries to
synchronize its movement with your head.

Spaceman wrote:

nothing..

do you really thing the rest of the world gives one ****ing iota about anything
you think? Especially considering that you're the only one who loses out with
your fantasies.. good bye, when you die it won't be a loss to the pool of
intelligence on the planet.

"Spaceman" wrote in message news:p2RZc.24187$_g7.23207@attbi_s52...
"TMG" wrote in message ...
} Spaceman wrote:
}
} snip
}
} Missed that in the journals - when did that experiment happen? We have
} real orbiting test platforms, but I don't recall this test.

It was the side of reality that the relativity church refuses to admit is
the physical truth.

} What are the consistent returns from the currently orbiting test
} platforms? My GPS system seems to work just fine.

Your GPS has nothing to do with it.
Too bad you are so brainwashed that you actually think it does.

Does it burn TMG?
Is your church falling down around you and you still can't
grasp why a clock can malfunction?

James,long time since I've seen you around here.

Turns out that things are even worse than you thought,the problem goes
back to Newton and the way he set things up,as for Albert and his
cronies,well they are just making things worse and now look entirely
daft.

You know how the world works James and the first thing Newton did was
tell his readers that the 'vulgar' don't understand time,space and
motion and then he goes on to define these things with as much
gobbdygook as he could manage,sort of like how a lawyer today would do
things.

"Hitherto I have laid down the definitions of such words as are less
known, and explained the sense in which I would have them to be
understood in the following discourse. I do not define time, space,
place and motion, as being well known to all. Only I must observe,
that the vulgar conceive those quantities under no other notions but
from the relation they bear to sensible objects."

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/...tions.htm#time

Well that is a cheap trick,put the reader at a disadvantage and make
him believe that you know what you are talking about when you really
want to conceal things.Isaac just wanted to shift the Earth's rotation
to a different rate,in his case from 24 hours exactly to 23 hours 56
min 04 sec to get his gravitational agenda to work and that is why you
have that rubbish of relative and absolute.

Funny thing is that you come through all this rubbish and admire the
old astronomers like Copernicus and Kepler and it is well worth
passing through these relativistic/aetherist ghosts to get to a clear
understanding of things.Pity the world is scared of equations as they
really mean nothing and especially when you base the way the world
works on the wrong rotation rate for the Earth as Isaac did.

In any case,you were right all along with clocks as they are not just
a problem but the solution as well,the relativist/aetherist/Newtonian
just has'nt figured it out yet.

"Spaceman" wrote in message news:wqOZc.359899$%_6.202696@attbi_s01...
So this man is sitting in Boston,
and his neighbors who happen to be twins that live in the next
apartment over, tell him that they are going to be test subjects
for the worshippers of relativity church.

The test will be that one twin will be sent to orbit
and the other twin will stay home.

NEITHER of the twins will be carrying clocks nor will they have any way to tell the time during the trip. No clocks involved period.


So the man reads the paper later that the twin who went
into orbit has returned and all the worhsippers in the church
of relativity say he is now younger than the other twin.
Yet Both the twins show up at the Earth mans house
late that night and he looks at his watch and
asks them who is older now.


Why does the Earth man look at his watch?


They both look at him and say, simultaneously,


"The Earthbound twin and the silly Earth man."
TomGee