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Because it makes for a good story.
The mechanics of time travel are not known and everything around it is purely speculation. |
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In the movie Back to the Future II, it was
explained how going back in time would alter the future and, as such, you would end up in a paralel time line- one in which your arrival from the future happens. Biff from the future would never have returned to the same future after altering his past- stealing the Delorian and giving his younger self a fifty year sports alminac. But, even if the Doc built a new time machine, he and Marty wouldn't end up going back to the altered 1995- future of altered Biff- but instead would have arrived back to the past they left at the begining of the second movie. And the alminac would only have worked for Biff's yonger self for the first two bets at the most before that altered reality deviated from the origional time line making the rest of the alminac worthless. In the origional terminator, the idea was that the AI machines in the future built a time machine and sent a robot back to kill the mother (Sara) of the human commander who defeated the machines. Then the human soldiers destroy the AI and use the time machine to send a soldier back to defend the would-be mother from the robot. So, then the origional Terminator is actually a sequal- an altered reality in which these dudes from the future come back and change the past. The story ends with the solder getting killed, the robot getting crushed and the woman winds up pregnant with the soldiers baby- the soldier becomeing the commanders father. What would have happened in the origional time line? I guess Sara would have met some other guy who would have been the dad of the future commander. Then, they would have lived like normal people until the nukes are all lauched in 1997. Perhaps they are on a boat cruse at that time and so everything is toast when they get back to shore. Then her husband gets killed by a robot so she takes her son south into mexico, along with lots of other displaced americans, where she dies of cancer and her son becomes the great commander who defeats the robots and the AI out of his drive for revenge ...I guess. My only question then is, why send anyone or anything back to defend Sara or her son when the robots only went back to an altered reality- the first one being uneffected? Also, since things that go back in time pass into alternate realities, would they represent a loss of matter/energy from the origionating universe while a gain of matter/energy to the destination universe- the altered reality? |
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Lawrence Hyde wrote:
In the movie Back to the Future II, it was explained how going back in time would alter the future and, as such, you would end up in a paralel time line- one in which your arrival from the future happens. Physical reality does not tolerate contradiction. [snip] What would have happened in the origional time line? Larry Niven has a lovely story about parallel universes. If you can spin off arbitary realities at will then it makes no difference what you do in this one - all actions and their opposites and every possible variation thereupon occur anyway. Do what you want, and society disintegrates. Common observation reveals that betting on hard 8 makes a difference, and the chance of winning a state lottery is the same (within an epsilon) whether you buy a ticket or not. [snip] -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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"Lawrence Hyde" wrote in message om... snip If I tell you that everything I say is a lie, would you believe me? You run into similar question with going back in time, (killing your parents before you were born, etc) |
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Lawrence Hyde wrote:
In the movie Back to the Future II, it was explained how going back in time would alter the future and, as such, you would end up in a paralel time line- one in which your arrival from the future happens. Biff from the future would never have returned to the same future after altering his past- stealing the Delorian and giving his younger self a fifty year sports alminac. But, even if the Doc built a new time machine, he and Marty wouldn't end up going back to the altered 1995- future of altered Biff- but instead would have arrived back to the past they left at the begining of the second movie. And the alminac would only have worked for Biff's yonger self for the first two bets at the most before that altered reality deviated from the origional time line making the rest of the alminac worthless. In the origional terminator, the idea was that the AI machines in the future built a time machine and sent a robot back to kill the mother (Sara) of the human commander who defeated the machines. Then the human soldiers destroy the AI and use the time machine to send a soldier back to defend the would-be mother from the robot. So, then the origional Terminator is actually a sequal- an altered reality in which these dudes from the future come back and change the past. The story ends with the solder getting killed, the robot getting crushed and the woman winds up pregnant with the soldiers baby- the soldier becomeing the commanders father. What would have happened in the origional time line? I guess Sara would have met some other guy who would have been the dad of the future commander. Then, they would have lived like normal people until the nukes are all lauched in 1997. Perhaps they are on a boat cruse at that time and so everything is toast when they get back to shore. Then her husband gets killed by a robot so she takes her son south into mexico, along with lots of other displaced americans, where she dies of cancer and her son becomes the great commander who defeats the robots and the AI out of his drive for revenge ...I guess. My only question then is, why send anyone or anything back to defend Sara or her son when the robots only went back to an altered reality- the first one being uneffected? Also, since things that go back in time pass into alternate realities, would they represent a loss of matter/energy from the origionating universe while a gain of matter/energy to the destination universe- the altered reality? Google 'grandfather paradox' and you'll get 31,800 results. No one here even pretends to know and understand everything about time travel, so why can't sci-fi movies stay fiction? |
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