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  #7921  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
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On Sep 24, 6:16�pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:02?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 22, 5:51?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:38?pm, Jim Burns wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:20 pm, Jim Burns wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 20, 4:25 pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 19, 6:43 pm, "Smiler" wrote:
So you don't care what "virgin" means.
Hint: It's pure Latin, the 'dead' language.
I can look it up in Isaiah.


So tell us skippy, what do you think it means?
Who are you calling skippy?


Why can't Winn tell us what he thinks it means?
I mean, seriously, what can he find to be scared
of, in expressing what the fairly innocent
word "virgin" means?


The only reason I can see is that, for him,
"Any opinion that is not required is forbidden."


I feel sorry for you, Winn.


This surprises me because you are, in fact,
the complete flaming asshole AND seem to be proud
of that fact. Even so, no one deserves to be
ground down like that.


Jim Burns


Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a
strong statement.


Well, as they say, "De gustibus non est disputandum est."


Personally, I find the word "asshole" much less obscene
than whatever or whoever has made you too timid to
share something as innocuous as what the word "virgin"
means to you.


Jim Burns- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, according to scripture, we are not supposed to discuss
certain things with the wicked. ?So you will just have to live
with that. What we are commanded to discuss with the wicked is
the principle of repentance.


The proper meaning of 'virgin' is not wicked at all, even by your
standards.


Sorry if you wanted to talk about something that excites
you. ?We were told, Say nothing except repentance to this
generation.


When are you going to repent for all the lies that you've told in
this thread?


Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hey, I am not the one going around calling myself the godless one.


How is that a lie, skippy?


I did not say it was a lie. �If that is what you want to be, then that
is what you will be.


? I ?believe in Jesus Christ.


Without a shred of evidence.


Oh, was that the problem you were having? �Let me send you a copy of
the Bible.


How many times do I have to tell you that we've enough toilet paper here?
That's all the wholly babble is good for....wiping arses.

Smiler,


Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Robert B. Winn
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  #7922  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
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rbwinn wrote:

On Sep 24, 8:44?am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:08?pm, "Alex W." wrote:
"rbwinn" wrote in message


...
On Sep 23, 10:53?am, "Alex W." wrote:


"Smiler" wrote in message


news


What makes you think any of us are Romans?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You all speak Latin.


You speak English. Does that make you English?
I sincerely hope not.


He doesn't.
He speaks fluent gibberish.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thank you for sharing, Alex.


-----------


Don't mention it.
It's the Christian thing to do ...- Hide quoted text -


Wonderful to see this spirit of repentance. ?If only we would see more
atheists doing Christian things.


You mean like condemning people who aren't sufficiently religious?
Imposing their superstitious ignorance on society? Upsetting grieving
families at funerals, claiming "God Hates Fags"? Attacking scientists
who dare deny creationism? Sending death threats to anyone who mocks the
Eucharist? Denying women's reproductive rights and freedom, and
murdering doctors?

Those sort of "Christian" things?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You seem to be trying to accuse me of something.


Nothing more than what you're guilty of -- idolatry and stupidity.

You try to paint the expression "Christian thing [to do]" as if it were
automatically and universally good. It's not, and it's important to
recognize how often it is associated with bigotry, hatred and violence.


As I understand it,
you are saying that if a Christian anywhere in the world commits a
sin, then you have proven Christianity false.


Where would you get such an idiotic "understanding" from?


Wouldn't it have been
easier to just say, Judas Iscariot was a bad apostle, so you are going
to be an atheist?


I don't give a **** whether one of the characters in an ancient book is
"bad", it has nothing to do with the actions of Christians towards
non-Christians. Was Iscariot being a "bad apostle" what drove the
Catholic Adolf Hitler to murder six million Jews?


Boy, you really are a dumb one, aren't you?

  #7923  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Mark K. Bilbo
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rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 24, 3:29�pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 24, 7:42 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:22 am, "John Christiansen"
wrote:
"rbwinn" skrev i en ...
On Sep 23, 6:02?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 22, 5:51?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:38?pm, Jim Burns wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:20 pm, Jim Burns wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 20, 4:25 pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 19, 6:43 pm, "Smiler" wrote:
So you don't care what "virgin" means.
Hint: It's pure Latin, the 'dead' language.
I can look it up in Isaiah.
So tell us skippy, what do you think it means?
Who are you calling skippy?
Why can't Winn tell us what he thinks it means?
I mean, seriously, what can he find to be scared
of, in expressing what the fairly innocent
word "virgin" means?
The only reason I can see is that, for him,
"Any opinion that is not required is forbidden."
I feel sorry for you, Winn.
This surprises me because you are, in fact,
the complete flaming asshole AND seem to be proud
of that fact. Even so, no one deserves to be
ground down like that.
Jim Burns
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a
strong statement.
Well, as they say, "De gustibus non est disputandum est."
Personally, I find the word "asshole" much less obscene
than whatever or whoever has made you too timid to
share something as innocuous as what the word "virgin"
means to you.
Jim Burns- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, according to scripture, we are not supposed to discuss certain
things with the wicked. ?So you will just have to live with that..
What we are commanded to discuss with the wicked is the principle of
repentance.
The proper meaning of 'virgin' is not wicked at all, even by your
standards.
Sorry if you wanted to talk about something that excites
you. ?We were told, Say nothing except repentance to this
generation.
When are you going to repent for all the lies that you've told in
this thread?
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Hey, I am not the one going around calling myself the godless one.
How is that a lie, skippy?
I did not say it was a lie. If that is what you want to be, then that
is what you will be.
? I ?believe in Jesus Christ.
Without a shred of evidence.
Oh, was that the problem you were having? Let me send you a copy of
the Bible.
Robert B. Winn
Oh but the bible texts are not acceptable as evidence in scientific
societies or in courts except maybe in some primitive countries.- Hide quoted text -
I don't see why not.
How 'bout we accept the Harry Potter books as evidence?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
I think that would be wonderful. �In fact, it may already be
happening. �I read something the other day about a legal dispute
between someone and J.K. Rowling.

Well, that didn't make a lick of sense...

--
Mark K. Bilbo � � �


Well, some people consider legal disputes to be very complex, Mark.
Expecially where books are involved.


Everything is "complex" to you...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.

"Climb out of your holes people!"

- Dr. House, on faith
  #7924  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Smiler
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rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 25, 7:21?am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:44?am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:08?pm, "Alex W." wrote:
"rbwinn" wrote in message


...
On Sep 23, 10:53?am, "Alex W." wrote:


"Smiler" wrote in message


news


What makes you think any of us are Romans?- Hide quoted text
-


- Show quoted text -


You all speak Latin.


You speak English. Does that make you English?
I sincerely hope not.


He doesn't.
He speaks fluent gibberish.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thank you for sharing, Alex.


-----------


Don't mention it.
It's the Christian thing to do ...- Hide quoted text -


Wonderful to see this spirit of repentance. ?If only we would see
more atheists doing Christian things.


You mean like condemning people who aren't sufficiently religious?
Imposing their superstitious ignorance on society? Upsetting
grieving families at funerals, claiming "God Hates Fags"?
Attacking scientists who dare deny creationism? Sending death
threats to anyone who mocks the Eucharist? Denying women's
reproductive rights and freedom, and murdering doctors?


Those sort of "Christian" things?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You seem to be trying to accuse me of something.


Nothing more than what you're guilty of -- idolatry and stupidity.

You try to paint the expression "Christian thing [to do]" as if it
were automatically and universally good. It's not, and it's
important to recognize how often it is associated with bigotry,
hatred and violence.

As I understand it,
you are saying that if a Christian anywhere in the world commits a
sin, then you have proven Christianity false. ?


Where would you get such an idiotic "understanding" from?

Wouldn't it have been
easier to just say, Judas Iscariot was a bad apostle, so you are
going to be an atheist?


I don't give a **** whether one of the characters in an ancient book
is "bad", it has nothing to do with the actions of Christians towards
non-Christians. Was Iscariot being a "bad apostle" what drove the
Catholic Adolf Hitler to murder six million Jews?


Well, I believe that Satan convinced him to do that.


Back to the satan worship, I see, skippy.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279


  #7925  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Smiler
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rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 24, 6:16?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:02?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 22, 5:51?pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:38?pm, Jim Burns wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:20 pm, Jim Burns wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 20, 4:25 pm, "Smiler" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 19, 6:43 pm, "Smiler" wrote:
So you don't care what "virgin" means.
Hint: It's pure Latin, the 'dead' language.
I can look it up in Isaiah.


So tell us skippy, what do you think it means?
Who are you calling skippy?


Why can't Winn tell us what he thinks it means?
I mean, seriously, what can he find to be scared
of, in expressing what the fairly innocent
word "virgin" means?


The only reason I can see is that, for him,
"Any opinion that is not required is forbidden."


I feel sorry for you, Winn.


This surprises me because you are, in fact,
the complete flaming asshole AND seem to be proud
of that fact. Even so, no one deserves to be
ground down like that.


Jim Burns


Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a
strong statement.


Well, as they say, "De gustibus non est disputandum est."


Personally, I find the word "asshole" much less obscene
than whatever or whoever has made you too timid to
share something as innocuous as what the word "virgin"
means to you.


Jim Burns- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, according to scripture, we are not supposed to discuss
certain things with the wicked. ?So you will just have to live
with that. What we are commanded to discuss with the wicked is
the principle of repentance.


The proper meaning of 'virgin' is not wicked at all, even by your
standards.


Sorry if you wanted to talk about something that excites
you. ?We were told, Say nothing except repentance to this
generation.


When are you going to repent for all the lies that you've told in
this thread?


Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hey, I am not the one going around calling myself the godless one.


How is that a lie, skippy?


I did not say it was a lie. ?If that is what you want to be, then
that is what you will be.


I ?believe in Jesus Christ.


Without a shred of evidence.


Oh, was that the problem you were having? ?Let me send you a copy of
the Bible.


How many times do I have to tell you that we've enough toilet paper
here? That's all the wholly babble is good for....wiping arses.

Smiler,


Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.


Says the man? with a very weak mind.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279


  #7926  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
rbwinn
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On Sep 26, 7:54�am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
rbwinnwrote:
On Sep 25, 7:21 am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:44?am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:08?pm, "Alex W." wrote:
"rbwinn" wrote in message
...
On Sep 23, 10:53?am, "Alex W." wrote:
"Smiler" wrote in message
news What makes you think any of us are Romans?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You all speak Latin.
You speak English. Does that make you English?
I sincerely hope not.
He doesn't.
He speaks fluent gibberish.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thank you for sharing, Alex.
-----------
Don't mention it.
It's the Christian thing to do ...- Hide quoted text -
Wonderful to see this spirit of repentance. ?If only we would see more
atheists doing Christian things.
You mean like condemning people who aren't sufficiently religious?
Imposing their superstitious ignorance on society? Upsetting grieving
families at funerals, claiming "God Hates Fags"? Attacking scientists
who dare deny creationism? Sending death threats to anyone who mocks the
Eucharist? Denying women's reproductive rights and freedom, and
murdering doctors?
Those sort of "Christian" things?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You seem to be trying to accuse me of something.
Nothing more than what you're guilty of -- idolatry and stupidity.


You try to paint the expression "Christian thing [to do]" as if it were
automatically and universally good. It's not, and it's important to
recognize how often it is associated with bigotry, hatred and violence..


As I understand it,
you are saying that if a Christian anywhere in the world commits a
sin, then you have proven Christianity false.
Where would you get such an idiotic "understanding" from?


Wouldn't it have been
easier to just say, Judas Iscariot was a bad apostle, so you are going
to be an atheist?
I don't give a **** whether one of the characters in an ancient book is
"bad", it has nothing to do with the actions of Christians towards
non-Christians. Was Iscariot being a "bad apostle" what drove the
Catholic Adolf Hitler to murder six million Jews?


Well, I believe that Satan convinced him to do that.


Boy, you really are a dumb one, aren't you?- Hide quoted text -


Well, one good thing, I never did reach the level of ignorance where I
was claiming to be an atheist.


You were *never* an atheist.

--
Mark K. Bilbo � � �


I never was.
Robert B. Winn
  #7927  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Mark K. Bilbo
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rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 26, 7:54�am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 25, 7:21 am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:44?am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:08?pm, "Alex W." wrote:
"rbwinn" wrote in message
...
On Sep 23, 10:53?am, "Alex W." wrote:
"Smiler" wrote in message
news What makes you think any of us are Romans?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You all speak Latin.
You speak English. Does that make you English?
I sincerely hope not.
He doesn't.
He speaks fluent gibberish.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thank you for sharing, Alex.
-----------
Don't mention it.
It's the Christian thing to do ...- Hide quoted text -
Wonderful to see this spirit of repentance. ?If only we would see more
atheists doing Christian things.
You mean like condemning people who aren't sufficiently religious?
Imposing their superstitious ignorance on society? Upsetting grieving
families at funerals, claiming "God Hates Fags"? Attacking scientists
who dare deny creationism? Sending death threats to anyone who mocks the
Eucharist? Denying women's reproductive rights and freedom, and
murdering doctors?
Those sort of "Christian" things?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You seem to be trying to accuse me of something.
Nothing more than what you're guilty of -- idolatry and stupidity.
You try to paint the expression "Christian thing [to do]" as if it were
automatically and universally good. It's not, and it's important to
recognize how often it is associated with bigotry, hatred and violence..
As I understand it,
you are saying that if a Christian anywhere in the world commits a
sin, then you have proven Christianity false.
Where would you get such an idiotic "understanding" from?
Wouldn't it have been
easier to just say, Judas Iscariot was a bad apostle, so you are going
to be an atheist?
I don't give a **** whether one of the characters in an ancient book is
"bad", it has nothing to do with the actions of Christians towards
non-Christians. Was Iscariot being a "bad apostle" what drove the
Catholic Adolf Hitler to murder six million Jews?
Well, I believe that Satan convinced him to do that.
Boy, you really are a dumb one, aren't you?- Hide quoted text -
Well, one good thing, I never did reach the level of ignorance where I
was claiming to be an atheist.

You were *never* an atheist.

--
Mark K. Bilbo � �


Exactly right. See, Mark, we do agree on something.


Ah, so you were lying.

Why am I not surprised?

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.

"Climb out of your holes people!"

- Dr. House, on faith
  #7928  
Old 2 Weeks Ago posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
rbwinn
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On Sep 27, 7:18�am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
rbwinnwrote:
On Sep 26, 7:54 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
rbwinnwrote:
On Sep 25, 7:21 am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:44?am, (Mr. Foo) wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:08?pm, "Alex W." wrote:
"rbwinn" wrote in message
...
On Sep 23, 10:53?am, "Alex W." wrote:
"Smiler" wrote in message
news What makes you think any of us are Romans?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You all speak Latin.
You speak English. Does that make you English?
I sincerely hope not.
He doesn't.
He speaks fluent gibberish.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thank you for sharing, Alex.
-----------
Don't mention it.
It's the Christian thing to do ...- Hide quoted text -
Wonderful to see this spirit of repentance. ?If only we would see more
atheists doing Christian things.
You mean like condemning people who aren't sufficiently religious?
Imposing their superstitious ignorance on society? Upsetting grieving
families at funerals, claiming "God Hates Fags"? Attacking scientists
who dare deny creationism? Sending death threats to anyone who mocks the
Eucharist? Denying women's reproductive rights and freedom, and
murdering doctors?
Those sort of "Christian" things?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You seem to be trying to accuse me of something.
Nothing more than what you're guilty of -- idolatry and stupidity.
You try to paint the expression "Christian thing [to do]" as if it were
automatically and universally good. It's not, and it's important to
recognize how often it is associated with bigotry, hatred and violence..
As I understand it,
you are saying that if a Christian anywhere in the world commits a
sin, then you have proven Christianity false.
Where would you get such an idiotic "understanding" from?
Wouldn't it have been
easier to just say, Judas Iscariot was a bad apostle, so you are going
to be an atheist?
I don't give a **** whether one of the characters in an ancient book is
"bad", it has nothing to do with the actions of Christians towards
non-Christians. Was Iscariot being a "bad apostle" what drove the
Catholic Adolf Hitler to murder six million Jews?
Well, I believe that Satan convinced him to do that.
Boy, you really are a dumb one, aren't you?- Hide quoted text -
Well, one good thing, I never did reach the level of ignorance where I
was claiming to be an atheist.
You were *never* an atheist.


--
Mark K. Bilbo


Exactly right. �See, Mark, we do agree on something.


Ah, so you were lying.

Why am I not surprised?

--
Mark K. Bilbo � � �


Well, I know it seems easy to say that anyone who agrees with you is
lying, but what you said about me was, You were never an atheist.
That was a true statement. I never was an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
 




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